Crackers would be a much better troll if he wasn't so quick to go straight for 5th grade level insults and threats.
Rutgers dual thread - Jan 24
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I love me some C-Star quotes...on Nebraska
“I think those Nebraska guys are deceiving. They have a good crowd and the coaches get all fired up. When you look at their bench, everyone's standing up, and I'm just like, ‘this is not going to be a good match at all,’” Starocci said. “They try to make it a big deal, but for us, it's really not, just it's go in there, take care of business and leave.”
take care of business and leave
“I think those Nebraska guys are deceiving. They have a good crowd and the coaches get all fired up. When you look at their bench, everyone's standing up, and I'm just like, ‘this is not going to be a good match at all,’” Starocci said. “They try to make it a big deal, but for us, it's really not, just it's go in there, take care of business and leave.”
take care of business and leave
Manning needs some tape on his mouth!
Excited for the upcoming conference slate. After this Rutgers dual things will get a lot more interesting.
Idk. Michigan lost to Maryland and Ohio State barely got by Rutgers. The real drama is how badly PSU drubs Iowa.
Certainly there is no doubt about winning duals at this point. The excitement lies in some of the exciting individual matchups, as we saw vs Nebraska.
Michigan is brutal this year. Not only did they lose to Maryland, they got torched by Minnesota.
Not enough transfers. Probably not looking good moving forward either. Take a Michigan family tradition that spent 4 years learning to try to win every match with 1 offensive move now scoring multiple takedowns in a single match. Ann Arbor isn't looking like a quality destination anymore. For most quality transfers the choice will be Iowa for half a million or Oklahoma State and learn to actually wrestle.
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It illustrates the problem with one year rentals being the main part of your team. You need to hit with 5 or 6 transfers each year to sustain success. Miss one year and you are irrelevant. I think Taylor is recruiting well enough to avoid this problem (because the Cowboys lose a LOT after this season), but you never know with recruits (unless you have a hit rate like Cael, which nobody has so far).
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Cael has a godly hit rate bc he also gets the most p4p recruits… other teams need to rely on portal bc they aren’t getting many top p4p guys and it’s probably a safer option to get a portal guy then to develop a wrestler ranked 30-100p4p.
That being said, Cael sets the meta. Get all the top guys, develop them, load management(no tournies), win nationals, rinse and repeat.
That being said, Cael sets the meta. Get all the top guys, develop them, load management(no tournies), win nationals, rinse and repeat.
I mean, it's been broken down so many times already. Cael's record of achievement with top p4p wrestlers is vastly superior to anyone else's.
To be honest, I think Rutgers' near-win at Ohio State is better than Maryland's narrow win over Michigan.
Yeah, this. Michigan is total trash this year. Rutgers has the deepest team I’ve seen from them in a long time. They may qualify as many as 9 guys for nationals. It’s not going to help them against Penn State and they’ll be lucky to win even one on Friday, but for Rutgers, this is a good team.
Wow, maybe first time in awhile I seen u make a objective post about RU…
Maybe 10 once Kasak transfers there.
My thoughts of Davis using horse racing terms.
Davis is far better as a front runner than a closer.
The typical Penn State wrestler who falls behind is not normally fazed by giving up a takedown and points early. They just continue to wrestle through the deficit by applying constant pressure. Nolf and Joseph were prime example of guys that got better as the match progressed.
Michigan is coming back down to Earth now that Will Lewan graduated!
This is just as reasonable a take as any, and my comment isn’t directed at you specifically. But it seems to me that Monday morning quarterbacking of elite wrestlers is easy and often wrong.
For those saying Davis panicked in the Nebraska dual and that’s what made him try to go big, it seems just as likely that he simply misjudged an opportunity to snatch back the momentum based on what he was seeing and feeling from Van Dee. He got it wrong and paid the price.
I just don’t think guys at his level "panic" very often, especially those under the tutelage of PSU’s Triple Cs.
Has Rutgers ever had all 10 be elite?
Can't happen this year because Harer is a freshman.
Except when I'm obviously busting chops, I'm always objective about Rutgers.
I think one year RU qualified all 10.. could be wrong and it was 9 but was either 9 or 10.. Harer is ranked like 32nd rn.. he will be on the bubble to qualify.
True frosh are typically still underrated at this point. I expect Harer will qualify once all is said and done, although he's certainly not a podium threat at this point in his career.
The problem with the take that he saw an opportunity and gave it a go is it was the worst attempt at a lateral drop I have seen in a long time. The technique was so poor it left me with the impression Braedon very rarely if at all plays around with upper body throws. If so, that was a panic move not a thoughtful high-risk high-reward attack.
I think generally speaking Matter makes very objective posts. His Rutgers posts sometimes seem harsh because of his objectivity.
It's odd for me, but I do not have disdain for any wrestling program other than Iowa. Mostly because of Brands.
I enjoy watching how Penn State coaches and the team carry themselves.
A great example, I watched Levi shaking hands at end of the Missouri Dual. He had just lost a heartbreaker earlier to O'toole. He was smiling and laughed about something. It was something I didn't expect.
I enjoy watching how Penn State coaches and the team carry themselves.
A great example, I watched Levi shaking hands at end of the Missouri Dual. He had just lost a heartbreaker earlier to O'toole. He was smiling and laughed about something. It was something I didn't expect.
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I think Levi is smiling and laughing all the time. It's like he puts his competitive face on for 7 minutes (little longer against O'Toole) and then he is back to smiling and laughing through life.
Yes in 2015-2016 season
Rutgers Wrestling 2015-16 Season Recap - Rutgers University Athletics
April 4, 2016 PISCATAWAY, N.J. - The accomplishments speak for themselves:
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I believe I heard on the Neb broadcast MM has averaged 18 points per match this year.
You did. He is up to 18.25 per match after that win.
People are actually awake to see the second half of their meets.
He might be right. In that year I think all 10 qualified for the Big Ten Tournament for at least the 2nd time….which if I recall, 2 times was the measure of elite.Yes in 2015-2016 season
Rutgers Wrestling 2015-16 Season Recap - Rutgers University Athletics
April 4, 2016 PISCATAWAY, N.J. - The accomplishments speak for themselves:
Yep. Back when I was a season ticket holder for both programs. Rutgers' best season by far. They beat Cornell, Nebraska and Lehigh in duals and finished 5th in B1Gs. Sh#t the bed at Nationals, but still their best season. Haven't beaten a top 10 team in a dual meet since that season.Yes in 2015-2016 season
Rutgers Wrestling 2015-16 Season Recap - Rutgers University Athletics
April 4, 2016 PISCATAWAY, N.J. - The accomplishments speak for themselves:
Edit - I forgot there were a few other quality wins that year - North Carolina, Northern Iowa, Oregon State and Purdue. Rutgers actually had a winning record in B1G duals.
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NOTES: Penn State Visits Rutgers Friday Night for B1G Dual Meet
Braeden IMO is super talented, but... he has an odd sense of poor positioning in many scramble situations. He can get lost in the movement and even turns to his back from time to time.
For the most part all of his losses combined don't make me feel like he isn't up to the task or lacks the ability to compete as a top 4 guy. However nearly all of them produce head scratching moments that had me thinking, 'what was he thinking'? I am not 100% sure this is coachable. He may prove to be a hot/cold wrestler that if "on" and hot can win a NC, or somewhere on the path circumstances lead to an unfortunate misstep.
The Crookham loss this year, was pretty impressive IMO and free of flaws from the most part. He was aggressive and had many opportunities. Crookham is both a contortionist and a stud when someone is in on a leg. That match has all of us thinking he is right there and just a few small adjustments and he can do it. This last loss showed a lot of carelessness and some lack of awareness. The Jonesy should have been expected as this is one of Van Dee's most used tools in his tool kit. Even after that Braeden got right back on it, had plenty of time, then kinda lost his mind. Just very odd and undisciplined.
Too much judgement for now, granted this is only his second year in the program, ... but then again this is his second year in the program. I am going to remain very optimistic about his chances.
Not sure that happened he's still walking up to get his diploma. He's staaaaaling
