We obviously got the Big 10 JV officiating crew today.

[Jerry]

Can someone (maybe a former official?) walk me through what happened on the fumble recovery for a TD that was called back?

I did not hear a whistle blow indicating the play was over. Multiple referees acted as if the play was still live, including signaling touchdown for PSU. Did a referee actively "spot the ball" (indicating forward progress had stopped) without blowing his whistle? And no one noticed?

Or did they somehow talk about it afterwards and make this decision?

Because if it is the former, I guess that is simple human error (not blowing your whistle), from an officiating mechanics perspective anyway (I still think it was the wrong call).

If it is the latter...how can they do that? If forward progress was stopped, you have to decide that on the field in real time, not after the play, correct?

I'm still flabbergasted as to what happened there.

It was a ridiculous call, which should have been a Penn State touchdown. The play was live, the Illinois back was hit, the ball was out...not even close.

But it's all par for the course with Big Suck refs.

If I'm Franklin, I'm tempted to take the USC gig just to get away from this weekly clown show where the stupidity and incompetence mysteriously appear to run only in one direction.

 

[MacNit07]

Ah right...all part of the grand conspiracy to advance Illinois football of course!

No…Screw PSU

 

[Erial_Lion]

It was a ridiculous call, which should have been a Penn State touchdown. The play was live, the Illinois back was hit, the ball was out...not even close.

But it's all par for the course with Big Suck refs.

If I'm Franklin, I'm tempted to take the USC gig just to get away from this weekly clown show where the stupidity and incompetence mysteriously appear to run only in one direction.

The fact that people actually believe this crap is laughable.

For example...

Officiating situation in USC-Washington State game is latest black eye for Pac-12

The Pac-12 Conference, which has a long history of missteps when it comes to officiating football and basketball games, was left reeling Thursday from yet another embarrassment.

www.latimes.com

"The Pac-12 Conference, which has a long history of missteps when it comes to officiating football and basketball games, was left reeling Thursday from yet another embarrassment."

Big 12 fans think their conference has the worst officials. Pac 12 fans think it's them. SEC fans think it's them. Big Ten fans think it's them. And in every case, the officials are conspiring against the team that someone is rooting for.

Go figure.

 

[LIONJELLO]

i never like to "hang" it on the refs, especially in games when you let a sub-standard opponent stick around. BUT this wasn't even us letting illinois hang around, they kicked our ass up and down that field, lost their starting qb, and still beat us. so quit bitching about the zebras, we did not deserve to win that game one bit. sorry.

 

[MacNit07]

The fact that people actually believe this crap is laughable.

For example...

Officiating situation in USC-Washington State game is latest black eye for Pac-12

The Pac-12 Conference, which has a long history of missteps when it comes to officiating football and basketball games, was left reeling Thursday from yet another embarrassment.

www.latimes.com

"The Pac-12 Conference, which has a long history of missteps when it comes to officiating football and basketball games, was left reeling Thursday from yet another embarrassment."

Big 12 fans think their conference has the worst officials. Pac 12 fans think it's them. SEC fans think it's them. Big Ten fans think it's them. And in every case, the officials are conspiring against the team that someone is rooting for.

Go figure.

What “crap?”

 

[Erial_Lion]

What “crap?”

His post that said..."But it's all par for the course with Big Suck refs.

If I'm Franklin, I'm tempted to take the USC gig just to get away from this weekly clown show where the stupidity and incompetence mysteriously appear to run only in one direction"

Ask 10 Pac12 fanboys, and 9 or 10 of them will tell you that Pac12 football officiating is terrible, and Franklin should stay in the Big 10 since the officiating is obviously better and not biased against their team.

 

[Jerry]

i never like to "hang" it on the refs, especially in games when you let a sub-standard opponent stick around. BUT this wasn't even us letting illinois hang around, they kicked our ass up and down that field, lost their starting qb, and still beat us. so quit bitching about the zebras, we did not deserve to win that game one bit. sorry.

There is no contradiction between: A) the officiating sucked and hurt Penn State; and B) we should have beaten Illinois with or without horrible refs.

 

[Jerry]

His post that said..."But it's all par for the course with Big Suck refs.

If I'm Franklin, I'm tempted to take the USC gig just to get away from this weekly clown show where the stupidity and incompetence mysteriously appear to run only in one direction"

Ask 10 Pac12 fanboys, and 9 or 10 of them will tell you that Pac12 football officiating is terrible, and Franklin should stay in the Big 10 since the officiating is obviously better and not biased against their team.

Yeah, yeah...whatever.

You want to live in a state of denial, go right ahead.

The rest of us have seen the Big Suck refs in action for 28 years and are tired of the bias and incompetence on display.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Yeah, yeah...whatever.

You want to live in a state of denial, go right ahead.

The rest of us have seen the Big Suck refs in action for 28 years and are tired of the bias and incompetence on display.

You call the conference the "Big Suck", yet think you are objectively looking at things. Classic.

 

[MacNit07]

His post that said..."But it's all par for the course with Big Suck refs.

If I'm Franklin, I'm tempted to take the USC gig just to get away from this weekly clown show where the stupidity and incompetence mysteriously appear to run only in one direction"

Ask 10 Pac12 fanboys, and 9 or 10 of them will tell you that Pac12 football officiating is terrible, and Franklin should stay in the Big 10 since the officiating is obviously better and not biased against their team.

You do realize that the rules of College Football were changed because of the tomfoolery of the Big10? Replay was institutionalized. You can thank Joe for that too. But it took those crooks only a few years to figure that out (see @ Nebraska ~ 2012 and any number of BS calls while playing O$U…or Indiana 2020…I could go on).

 

[Jerry]

You call the conference the "Big Suck", yet think you are objectively looking at things. Classic.

To assess incompetence and bias realistically is not opposed to objectivity.

 

[PearlSUJam]

You do realize that the rules of College Football were changed because of the tomfoolery of the Big10? Replay was institutionalized. You can thank Joe for that too. But it took those crooks only a few years to figure that out (see @ Nebraska ~ 2012 and any number of BS calls while playing O$U…or Indiana 2020…I could go on).

When CJF leaves will you promise to STFU about it and add something here instead of the @ssfockery you post over and over?

 

[MacNit07]

When CJF leaves will you promise to STFU about it and add something here instead of the @ssfockery you post over and over?

Pinky swear. What have you added? “Keep Franklin no matter how bad things look?”

 

[PearlSUJam]

The fact that people actually believe this crap is laughable.

For example...

Officiating situation in USC-Washington State game is latest black eye for Pac-12

The Pac-12 Conference, which has a long history of missteps when it comes to officiating football and basketball games, was left reeling Thursday from yet another embarrassment.

www.latimes.com

"The Pac-12 Conference, which has a long history of missteps when it comes to officiating football and basketball games, was left reeling Thursday from yet another embarrassment."

Big 12 fans think their conference has the worst officials. Pac 12 fans think it's them. SEC fans think it's them. Big Ten fans think it's them. And in every case, the officials are conspiring against the team that someone is rooting for.

Go figure.

Remember when the refs got rid of a down on us earlier this season? When was the last time that happened? If I were James I'd be getting my ass out of this conference as well. I hope he burns the B1G down on his way out the door.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Remember when the refs got rid of a down on us earlier this season? When was the last time that happened? If I were James I'd be getting my ass out of this conference as well. I hope he burns the B1G down on his way out the door.

Those, of course, were SEC refs. And from what I’ve seen, it was the most poorly officiated game this season.

 

[odshowtime]

Remember when the refs got rid of a down on us earlier this season? When was the last time that happened? If I were James I'd be getting my ass out of this conference as well. I hope he burns the B1G down on his way out the door.

I really do feel like a sucker quite often when rooting for PSU. Like "You've gotten enough hints. You're not included. It's not going to happen. F off."

 

[Jerry]

I really do feel like a sucker quite often when rooting for PSU. Like "You've gotten enough hints. You're not included. It's not going to happen. F off."

The pattern of bias is pretty unmistakable, and it's hard not to see it...unless you don't want to.

Not every game and not every crew. But you can pretty much count on every season there will be a couple games affected in a major way.

Remember the phantom offensive pass interference at the goal line that stopped the comeback in the big game against Minnesota in 2019. Indiana last year at the end. Long list going back a long way.

It starts with the opposition inside the league to Penn State entering and lots of resentment from Day One. Then the Sandusky disaster added jet fuel to the fire. The Big Suck sucks.

 

[odshowtime]

The pattern of bias is pretty unmistakable, and it's hard not to see it...unless you don't want to.

Not every game and not every crew. But you can pretty much count on every season there will be a couple games affected in a major way.

Remember the phantom offensive pass interference at the goal line that stopped the comeback in the big game against Minnesota in 2019. Indiana last year at the end. Long list going back a long way.

It starts with the opposition inside the league to Penn State entering and lots of resentment from Day One. Then the Sandusky disaster added jet fuel to the fire. The Big Suck sucks.

Two years ago it was clear they didn't want us to win the iowa or MN games. Last year Indiana. You know when the fix is in. Like this Saturday. Luckily for my psyche, their performance so pathetically horrible that you can't even blame the refs.

We're all marks.