2017 NCAAs Session 5 Thread

[Tom McAndrew]

Wrestling starts at 11 am EDT

TV - ESPNU

Video Stream - ESPN3

Audio Stream - Byers will be available at this link:

http://www.gopsusports.com/collegesportslive/?media=550916

The audio stream is supposed to start at 10:40 pm EDT

PSU only has 1 wrestler that will be participating in Session 5. Nick Nevills will face #3 seed Ty Walz (VT) in the 285 Consolation R6. If he wins that, he'll face the winner of the Tanner Hall (ASU) - Jacob Kasper (Duke) match for 3rd place. If he loses to Walz, he'll face the loser of the aforementioned match for 5th place.

I previously indicated that I would not be available for Session 5. However, I did caution that my scheduled was in flux. It's still not solidified, but there is a better chance than I thought that I'll be there for at least part of Session 5

As always, please keep all posts about the Session, team scores, posts about non-PSU wrestler matches from the Session, etc. in this thread.

The team standings for the tournament heading into Session 5 are:

PSU - 121
Ohio St - 89.5
Ok. St. - 86
Mizzou - 81.5
Iowa - 74
Minny - 60
Cornell - 57.5
VT - 53.5
Nebraska - 50
Illini - 41.5
Lehigh - 36
Wisky - 36
Michigan - 33
ASU - 30
UVA - 29.5
S. Dakota St - 28.5
N. Iowa - 23.5
Rutgers - 21.5
Edinboro - 19.5
etc.

 

[dunkej01]

In a few hours, Cael will move past John Smith (5) for career coaching titles (6) and PSU will move into a tie with Oklahoma for 4th all time in team titles (7). Iowa St is in 3rd with 8 team titles.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

In a few hours, Cael will move past John Smith (5) for career coaching titles (6) and PSU will move into a tie with Oklahoma for 4th all time in team titles (7). Iowa St is in 3rd with 8 team titles.

Carl can't coach

 

[James P. Whitters III]

In a few hours, Cael will move past John Smith (5) for career coaching titles (6) and PSU will move into a tie with Oklahoma for 4th all time in team titles (7). Iowa St is in 3rd with 8 team titles.

8? I somehow feel like that lead isn't going to last. Good thing I jumped on the bandwagon or I would really feel depleted. I'm just like an Iowa fan now, so just you wait a couple of years lol. I do find it rather strange that we have piled on Minnesota, but they are closer to Iowa than Iowa is to PSU as a program right now. ISU is closer to the YMCA youth program than PSU right now.

 

[ptomaselli]

Assuming they all stay healthy, the next 2 years PSU will field teams that could break NCAA finals team scoring records.

The Iowa Hawkeyes are next after the Cyclones, right?

 

[jschrantz]

Nevills vs Walz, really hope Nick can hit that low single vs the big man and wrestle for a chance at 3rd, lets go Clovis!

 

[dunkej01]

Assuming they all stay healthy, the next 2 years PSU will field teams that could break NCAA finals team scoring records.

The Iowa Hawkeyes are next after the Cyclones, right?

Yes next is the hawks. But this 6th title this year ties the post gable hawks and I think that should get some pub. What gable did is just nuts.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

for those interested, ESPNU is currently showing a replay of Session 4's semifinals

 

[jack66]

If I have this right, any loss in the 1st round this morning will lower the team MAX potential by 5.5 points.

Difference between 3rd and 5th - 3 placement points
No bonus - 2 points
No advancement -.5

What are the chances Nick could clinch the title when he steps on the mat today?

 

[pabison]

So far only mats 1, 2 and 3 available on espn3. Is that all they are running for Session 5?

 

[jack66]

So far only mats 1, 2 and 3 available on espn3. Is that all they are running for Session 5?

yes

 

[21Guns]

Nobody can ever touch what Gable did. What Gable did is like the Joe DiMaggio hitting streak, it will never be broken.

With that said, what Cael is doing in the modern sport, today, is now the Gold Standard for wrestling in the 2010's.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

If I have this right, any loss in the 1st round this morning will lower the team MAX potential by 5.5 points.

Difference between 3rd and 5th - 3 placement points
No bonus - 2 points
No advancement -.5

What are the chances Nick could clinch the title when he steps on the mat today?

We might have passively clinched before then

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

In a few hours, Cael will move past John Smith (5) for career coaching titles (6) and PSU will move into a tie with Oklahoma for 4th all time in team titles (7). Iowa St is in 3rd with 8 team titles.

This will be PSU's 8th National Title (1921, 1953, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016 and 2017) - here is a direct citation to this at PSU's Official Athletic Website, HIT THIS HOTLINK. Essentially, this win will tie PSU with Iowa State with 8 all-time and #3 in the nation in this category behind Okie State and Iowa. Not sure, but I think we may have already passed ISU in terms of all-time Individual Championships won and All-Americans to be #3 all-time alone in these categories, but not positive on that one.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

For whatever reason, I'm getting absolutely no audio in the Byers stream.

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

Ohio State (89.5 points) and Okie State (86 points) are the only two teams still with a mathematical chance of overtaking PSU (121 points). Not 100% sure about the scoring, but I think each win in the consolation semis is worth 3.5 points (3 for placement + 0.5 for advancement). An additional win in the 3rd/4th place match is worth another 1 point. Winner of the 7th/8th place match gets 1 point.

Okie State:
125 - (8) Piccininni vs (10) Mueller (Virginia). I can see Piccininni winning this. Winner gets Gilman/Dance winner.
133- (3) Brock vs (5) Micic (Michigan). Good match-up, but I like how Micic has been going. Winner gets Tomasello/Montoya winner.
141 - N/A; (1) Heil in finals
149 - N/A; (2) Collica eliminated
157 - (5) Smith vs (7) Palacio (Cornell). Seems like a toss-up. Winner gets Berger/Kemerer winner.
165 - (9) Rogers vs (2) Massa. Definitely like Massa in this one. Winner gets Jordan/Lewis winner.
174 - (7) Crutchmer vs unseeded Residori (SIU-Edwardsville) in the 7th/8th place match. Resider earlier beat Crutchmer in the championship bracket. I think Crutch wins this time.
184 - (4) Boyd vs (7) Dudley (Nebraska). Another toss-up. Winner gets Brooks/Martin winner.
197 - (6) Weigel vs (4) Haught (VaTech). I think Haught takes this one. Winner gets Moore/Studebaker winner.
285 - N/A; (6) Schafer eliminated

Ohio State
125 - N/A; unseeded Rodriguez eliminated
133 - (1) Tomasello vs (7) Montoya (Nebraska). NATO the clear favorite here. Winner gets Brock/Micic winner.
141- N/A; (12) Pletcher eliminated
149 - (4) Jordan vs (7) Thomson (Northern Iowa). Jordan favored here. Winner gets Sorenson/Chisko winner.
157 - N/A; no wrestler
165 - N/A; unseeded Burcher eliminated
174 - N/A; (3) Jordan in finals
184 - (6) Martin vs (3) Brooks. I'll take Brooks to beat Martin for 3rd time this season. Winner gets Dudley/Boyd winner.
197 - (3) Moore vs (7) Studebaker (Nebraska). Moore the clear favorite here. Winner gets Haught/Weigel winner
285 - N/A; (1) Snyder in finals

 

[James P. Whitters III]

This will be PSU's 8th National Title (1921, 1953, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016 and 2017) - here is a direct citation to this at PSU's Official Athletic Website, HIT THIS HOTLINK. Essentially, this win will tie PSU with Iowa State with 8 all-time and #3 in the nation in this category behind Okie State and Iowa. Not sure, but I think we may have already passed ISU in terms of all-time Individual Championships won and All-Americans to be #3 all-time alone in these categories, but not positive on that one.

Well you haven't passed Minnesota in dual results or third world tshirt sales so don't get too cocky.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

For whatever reason, I'm getting absolutely no audio in the Byers stream.

I reloaded it a few times. After the third time, it actually started to work.

 

[AldenT]

8? I somehow feel like that lead isn't going to last. Good thing I jumped on the bandwagon or I would really feel depleted. I'm just like an Iowa fan now, so just you wait a couple of years lol. I do find it rather strange that we have piled on Minnesota, but they are closer to Iowa than Iowa is to PSU as a program right now. ISU is closer to the YMCA youth program than PSU right now.

I hope you, your best friend, and your dad enjoy another great day together watching wrestling.

I'll be toasting a Connemara to you guys tonight as PSU brings it home.

 

[LemonPie]

Called it yesterday. Picc over Mueller by med forfeit. +2 bonus.

 

[LemonPie]

Micic beating up on Brock

 

[mn78psu83]

Called it yesterday. Picc over Mueller by med forfeit. +2 bonus.

Quite a gift.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Nobody can ever touch what Gable did. What Gable did is like the Joe DiMaggio hitting streak, it will never be broken.

With that said, what Cael is doing in the modern sport, today, is now the Gold Standard for wrestling in the 2010's.

Huh? Why do you say that? Gable won 7 of his first 8 at Iowa (he was named HC after Iowa won it's 2nd all-time and back-to-back National Championship in 1976 under Gary Kurdelmeier, the guy who hired Gable). Gable did not win his first year as HC in 1977 and then won 9 straight. Cael has won 6 in his first 8 years at PSU, which is very comparable. Gable retired in 1997 after a 21 year career having won 15 National Championships. The driving factor to whether Cael gets to 15 Career National Championships appears to be how long he wants to stay coaching....but at this point and at this rate, 15 National Championships appears to be well within Cael's grasp at PSU (which is the precise reason he said he choose to leave his alma mater, ISU, and come to PSU -- i.e., because the "unique advantages" that PSU offered would allow him to build an unassailable dynasty and win championships....his words have proven prophetic and I think he's a long way from being done at this point. To use Cael's words, he still looks like he's "having fun out there" and with the kids!).

But claiming Cael will never touch Gable's accomplishments at Iowa is a bit premature at this point imho.

 

[Used2BEerie]

Finals tonight will end at 184, not unexpected.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Mueller forfeited to Piccininni

Gilmna defeated Dance, 5-2

Dance will finish 5th, as Mueller will forfeit that match as well

NaTo defeated Montoya, 4-1

Micic defeated Kaid Brock, 10-4

 

[El-Jefe]

Mueller forfeited to Piccininni

Gilmna defeated Dance, 5-2

Dance will finish 5th, as Mueller will forfeit that match as well

NaTo defeated Montoya, 4-1

Micic defeated Kaid Brock, 10-4

Can somebody in STL go outside and draw a circle in the parking lot, for the Gilman-Piccinnini re-match?

 

[diggerpup]

Does anyone know who won in the Carton vs Pletcher match ?

 

[Tom McAndrew]

141:
Kevin Jack (NC St) over Anthony Ashnault (Rutgers), 3-1
Bryce Meredith (Wyoming) over Jaydin Eierman (Mizzou), 8-4

 

[mn78psu83]

141:
Kevin Jack (NC St) over Anthony Ashnault (Rutgers), 3-1
Bryce Meredith (Wyoming) over Jaydin Eierman (Mizzou), 8-4

A lot of talent at 141. I thought this might be the year for Ashnault.

 

[WildTurk]

Does anyone know who won in the Carton vs Pletcher match ?

Jeez that match happend last St Patricks day! Carton pinned him until he didn't. Then Topher lost by point to Pletcher who then lost to Gulibon who lost to Jack.

 

[diggerpup]

Jeez that match happend last St Patricks day! Carton pinned him until he didn't. Then Topher lost by point to Pletcher who then lost to Gulibon who lost to Jack.

Sigh.

( Inside joke from the Session III thread where it was asked 35 times )

 

[Tom McAndrew]

149:
Micah Jordan (Ohio St) over Max Thomsen (No. Iowa), 13-5
Brandon Sorensen (Iowa) over Solomon Chishko (VT), 9-0

157:
JoJo Smith (Ok. St.) over Dylan Palacio (Cornell), 10-0
Michael Kemerer (Iowa) over Tyler Berger (Nebraska), 10-1

 

[dsites52]

Looks like Berger is up to his old tricks again where he tires out his opponent by allowing them to get to his legs...and then take him down...and lose.

 

[werpsu29]

Man, Palacio got ridden like a rented mule.

 

[dsites52]

Man, Palacio got ridden like a rented mule.

I wonder if that's just how he visualized it...

 

[WildTurk]

Sigh.

( Inside joke from the Session III thread where it was asked 35 times )

im aware. I replied in that thread who won the bout. I was just playing along with the inside joke!

 

[diggerpup]

Man, Palacio got ridden like a rented mule.

Maybe Palacio was too busy staring into boiling water.

 

[mn78psu83]

PSU fans will be Iowa fans for the 3rd place matches at 149 & 157.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Looks like Berger is up to his old tricks again where he tires out his opponent by allowing them to get to his legs...and then take him down...and lose.

Yea, like the old joke in boxing....."you think my face looks bad? you should see his hand.".

 

[WildTurk]

Nice 10-1 md win by Kemerer over Berger. That should quiet Berger up for an hour atleast.