I agree - he seemed to smack the top of his eye (i.e., the "Orbital Bone") on Nick's knee. Couldn't tell if it drew blood, but it is a painful place to smack yourself - looked like he was in quite a bit of pain, but then was okay.
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I agree - he seemed to smack the top of his eye (i.e., the "Orbital Bone") on Nick's knee. Couldn't tell if it drew blood, but it is a painful place to smack yourself - looked like he was in quite a bit of pain, but then was okay.
Speaking of Kasper, calling out Snyder probably wasn't his smartest move ever, but I'm just a tad disappointed that Snyder even felt the need to make a rebuttal. You're number 1 in the world and you just ragdolled the kid, point made.
Kinda of sort of but maybe the environment could help some kids with a troubled home life.
Congrats Penn State! It may not be the university I went to or support, but it is pure joy watching your guys wrestle.
I feel for Kasper in this situation.
That said, just last year in the Central Dauphin - Cumberland Valley match, we saw a head coach order a wrestler to fake getting poked in the eye in order to win by DQ.
I think that might have been Chris Bevilacqua, a 2-time PSU AA from Long Island who went on to have tremendous success in the business world. I wasn't paying close attention to the interview, but I thought I heard him say (paraphrasing) - A key the reason for Cael's success is "he recruits good citizens, many of whom are people of faith". I didn't hear the word "Christians" used but like I said, I wasn't really paying close attention. Obviously guys like Nickal, Nolf and Matt Brown (to name three) are people of faith. Same goes for the entire coaching staff.
They can't change the injury rule, because coaches will use it to gain an advantage. That's why I think they really need to alter something on the coaches challenge rule, as some coaches are using it to give their wrestler a needed breather.
I didn't hear the word Christian. I heard faith.
It's still ridiculous. A presence or absence of faith is completely irrelevant to this run or anyone's success in any field.
And how many of the guys don't share or have that faith? It's completely irrelevant.
Only problem with being the presumptive favorite in 2018 is that the board's resident idiot will be hard pressed to come up with any ludicrous doom and gloom prediction to be wrong about next March.
Agree the "faith" comment was unnecessary, and I wouldn't have gone there. However, the comment didn't bother me all that much, either.
We must be terribly bored with winning, to be debating a useless man in the street time filler interview.
The point is, it doesnt matter. It has nothing to do with the team. You can't stop people from saying something like that. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure no one really cares, and Penn State is getting a ton of free publicity. They arranged 5 Penn State matches in a row tonight. I'm also pretty sure other teams aren't real happy about the love we're getting, or Billy promoting us.
We've earned the coverage. Faith isn't a litmus test to be recruited or succeed at PSU. It was just a dumb thing to say.
How important is Bonus ?
Take away just Bo's (7.5), Zain's (6.5) and Nolf's (6.0) bonus, and team scores:
Ohio St - 106
PSU - 102
Ok. St - 99
Iowa - 93
The BONUS of ONLY Zain, Nolf & Bo is 20 points - basically the same value of another finalist/champ.
Take away just Bo's (7.5), Zain's (6.5) and Nolf's (6.0) bonus, and team scores:
Ohio St - 106
PSU - 102
Ok. St - 99
Iowa - 93
The BONUS of ONLY Zain, Nolf & Bo is 20 points - basically the same value of another finalist/champ.
there was absolutely nothing wrong with what he said... nor what Bo regularly says "all credit to God" (paraphrasing). And this is coming from someone who hasnt been to church in 2 years and even then only when dragged there.
Do you just enjoy arguing, or is it an agenda. No one from the team said a word about faith. It's free speech, nothing anyone can do. Do you get upset when a wrestler thanks God as well? What's the difference?
George Carlin prayed to Joe Pesci.
It's a very real possibility that Billy was referring to Joe Pesci.
Penn State worships Joe Pesci, and Joe Pesci kicks ass.
There. Explained.
It's a very real possibility that Billy was referring to Joe Pesci.
Penn State worships Joe Pesci, and Joe Pesci kicks ass.
There. Explained.
It's one thing for an individual to express what faith means to him and his success. It's another thing for someone to speak for PSU and say what faith means to the entire program.
It'd have been just as out of turn and false to say "a lack of faith", or "people who's favorite color is blue". Just a dumb comment implying some systemic litmus test.
Snyder comments were fine. He made a minor comment, which the idiot ESPN mat-side "reporter" then jumped on. And nothing Snyder said was out of line in any respect.
You're right. I fixed that. I could only see the reaction from my view but from talking to some ppl afterward it was knee to the eye/forehead that did it
But the guy is just a fan and wasn't speaking for PSU. I can agree that bringing religion into the discussion on a TV interview wasn't the brightest idea, but it's obvious the guy doesn't speak for the program. Right?
Are you questioning the mighty Quin? But in all seriousness, I don't feel that Snyder was out of pocket at all.
This....except I'm glad we are debating something like this instead of talking about what-if. I'm even enjoying these arguments today and may even take two guys off of ingore......nah.
Can't wait for tonight. Everyone can wrestle their own match and not have to think about the team score. Been sick for 3 days and don't even mind at this point.
Yeah. I can agree with that. And the only reason I posted about it was to trash the guy. Don't want him speaking for fans either.
It wasn't dumb. It's sentence. Even though he's an alum, Bevilacqua's also a private citizen...a fan with NO position at PSU. He can say WHATEVER he wants in the USA.
Even if it privately were a positive recruiting checkbox item for Cael, as head coach at a state related university, he's not dumb enough to publicly state it on TV. Cael likely knows the 'separation-of-church-and-staters' will be all over him like a cheap DC Hooker (or Lobbyist...same thing).
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So says a guy with no faith. Those of us with faith would politely disagree. We believe our God has a plan for everyone. You disagree and we understand your point. We disagree with your point as well. Now let's politely move the conversation back to wrestling.
Of course he can. And I can comment that it was false, stupid, and makes us look ridiculous.
Does Zain have "faith" or no? How about Rasheed? Don't know and don't care.
I did say "There isn't a perfect solution."
To your points, an eye poke, or other incidents where the ref stopped things just to check on the wrestler would not result in the other wrestler having choice. It's only in situations where they can't shake it off, or need to be attended to by a trainer, and thus the injury clock is started, where the other wrestler gets choice.
In most matches, even if choice was granted, it wouldn't make much of a difference. In this match, where they were in SV-1, and neither guy had shown a lot of offense and the only TD scored was in the 1st period, and neither guy had shown the ability to ride the other guy for very wrong, having choice was an advantage for Nick. Whether he had lost an advantage to counter and get a TD when Kasper got injured, we'll never know.
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