The 1 thing I don’t think people are taking into account are that teams like PSU are going to lose blue chip guys to the portal as well when new guys come in. Already happened with Beard and I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens soon in the middle weights as well. Those kids are transferring to smaller schools such as Lehigh. It will still be skewed but top kids will be filtering the other way as well
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I am making a late, new year's resolution.
I heretofore choose to view with extreme prejudice and skepticism, any claim of a six figure wrestling NIL deal, regardless of the source or the wrestler involved.
I heretofore choose to view with extreme prejudice and skepticism, any claim of a six figure wrestling NIL deal, regardless of the source or the wrestler involved.
Happy new years everyone
My callendar has already been officially certified as challenged.
That's much too complicated. Simple solution is transfer within the same division (D1, D2, etc) and lose a year of eligibility. No exceptions. NIL was never intended, nor should it be, a recruiting tool.
I hope they all transfer to lock haven university. I would love to see them come back to the national scene
Not condescending at all. Its facts. I love Tom Ryan and the staff, but they dont develop like Cael/Casey. In fact, no one does. The only other program where guys seem to develop very well over 4-5 years is Missouri.
As per Ohio RTC- just not well funded. Sounds surprising with all the donor dollars for the football program.. but the Ohio RTC is just not a cash cow.
Why should a kid lose a year of eligibility for wanting to go to a different school?
NIL never intended to be a recruiting tool? Really? Freaking Rutgers convinced Suriano's old man Nick would be better off at Rutgers because Rutgers would give Nick a full ride. The conversation was illegal from the school's perspective but the whole bullshyting transfer and drama was about nothing but money.
NIL money, scholarship money, booster money, any money that may be available is always going to become a recruiting tool.
Some coach is clicking refresh on his browser with Betancourt and then puts in a PO for a new computer.
You came all the way over here to this board to play cool guy on me?? Elaborate.
Let's just hope wherever he ends up, tOSU is on the schedule and he seeks his revenge!
Michigan fan here, never posted before but saw a couple comments I disagreed with so just felt like throwing in my two cents. Michigan kind of needed a 1-2 year boost because they kept so much scholarship money tied to Micic, Amine and Massa through the Olympic redshirt and Covid years. That was a decision they made for those guys knowing it would hurt recruiting for a couple years. They have a great class coming in this fall, but next year was going to be tough - now it’s not, these grad transfers are bridging that gap for them.
I appreciate that Bormet is going for it. Will it be enough to overtake PSU? Doubtful. But he’s hustling and trying hard to lead Michigan to something they’ve never done before. So I don’t totally get some of the ridicule I’ve seen this week from all different teams’ fan bases (I do, that’s what being a fan is these days). Anyways, I’m excited for next season, I’m hoping my Wolverines can at least make it interesting!
ps. Not sure what happened with Lamer. They definitely didn’t recruit over him. I can only assume he wants to join his brothers at Cal Poly.
pps. I’m also very skeptical of the dollar amounts being thrown around. It went from 300k to 350k in a day, then I even saw a 500k quoted on Twitter today. Plus the 3 NW guys? No way.
I appreciate that Bormet is going for it. Will it be enough to overtake PSU? Doubtful. But he’s hustling and trying hard to lead Michigan to something they’ve never done before. So I don’t totally get some of the ridicule I’ve seen this week from all different teams’ fan bases (I do, that’s what being a fan is these days). Anyways, I’m excited for next season, I’m hoping my Wolverines can at least make it interesting!
ps. Not sure what happened with Lamer. They definitely didn’t recruit over him. I can only assume he wants to join his brothers at Cal Poly.
pps. I’m also very skeptical of the dollar amounts being thrown around. It went from 300k to 350k in a day, then I even saw a 500k quoted on Twitter today. Plus the 3 NW guys? No way.
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I think it’s great what Michigan did this offseason. Even with the kids they are bringing in I’m doubtful like you that there’s a chance they touch PSU unless injuries hit hard. That said I absolutely feel like they are in the running for second along with Mizzou. They are both going to have pretty great teams from top to bottom but this PSU team looks like it has the potential to be an ALL TIME great team
Thanks for posting. We don't get many meatchicken fans here. I think you're correct about Lamer.
Maybe Oregon State is a landing spot for him? His high school is in Corvallis.
Well, grad school is open for discussion, but not carte blanche.
I kept waiting for you to write something douchey. You let me down man.
I love anything UM can do to knock Iowa down another place on the podium...or clean off!
Maybe they can obsess over Cornell, Missouri, or Michigan soon enough?I kept waiting for you to write something douchey. You let me down man.
I love anything UM can do to knock Iowa down another place on the podium...or clean off!
I'm not going to argue my opinion vs your opinion. NIL is not allowed to be used for recruiting. Booster money is only allowed to given to programs/universities, not individual athlete's. Any deviation is called cheating. Regarding our recent transfers, I was happy to hear them say that NIL wasn't part of the conversation. Scholarship money is a valid recruiting tool as every school is allowed to have the exact same number of scholarships and therefore is not cheating. I'm not sure of the rules regarding contact of a scholarship athlete so there may or may not have been some rule breaking regarding Nicky and Rutgers.
This perhaps explains why the Woodley to Michigan transfer never happened ... and maybe it isn't dead after all?
For undergraduate transfers, I agree. They should still be able to do grad transfers without losing eligibility or sitting out a year. The grad transfers should be less of an issues once the Covid-created 6th and 7th year seniors are all passed through the system.
Not going to argue your opinion bs mine, yet you do.
NIL not allowed to be part of recruiting? Yet Micah Shrewsberry left because Penn State's NIL program wasn't aggressive enough to allow PSU compete for some recruits.
You are right. We will just disagree. I think it is fine if kids benefit, and you climb up that preacher's pulpit and yell at your clouds about the outrageous ideas that kids should be able to financially benefit from their athletic efforts.
It’s one thing to have a conversation about limiting transfers for athletes on full scholarships.
But I’ll struggle to hear someone out that wants to limit transfers for athletes paying $30k of their $40k annual tuition, room and board.
But I’ll struggle to hear someone out that wants to limit transfers for athletes paying $30k of their $40k annual tuition, room and board.
Any school that depends on this strategy is doomed to fail. How can you expect to build a winning program and culture by taking in the second stringers/underperformers from other programs with one, maybe two years in their career? Especially when they are not prepared to be champions. No, Cael has it right. To build a world class organization, you need to capture their hearts, their minds, and their dreams earlier than later.
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You seem to have trouble understanding the difference between discussion and argument. Perhaps you should read: https://global.indiana.edu/document...ration-vs-debate-handout-step-4-delibrate.pdf
or perhaps not.
No trouble at all.
Your take of not arguing is.
I am not arguing the point, but my point is blah, blah, blah.
Like I said, we just disagree. I have no problem with the system working for the student athlete, and it bothers you.
I have no issue with NIL. Why should only the schools profit from selling jerseys etc. My issue is with these "collectives". They aren't NIL. They are slush funds being doled out with almost no real tie to NIL. There aren't many players across all sports who truly have a demand for their NIL that approaches these NIL amounts.
Is Will Feldkamp Michigan's new 184 pounder? Don't bet against it. Perhaps Woodley or Buchanan at 197 lbs. ? That is providing one of them has a better lawyer 
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.They have Rylan Rogers at one of those weights. Kid is going to be very good and he will be a redshirt freshman. I’d be surprised if they brought guys in at both 184 and 197 but figure they try to fill the spot Rogers isn’t going. I’d rather have 4 years of Rogers over 1 of Feldkamp.Is Will Feldkamp Michigan's new 184 pounder? Don't bet against it. Perhaps Woodley or Buchanan at 197 lbs. ? That is providing one of them has a better lawyer
Feldkamp can wrestle his one year while Rogers fills the other weight. Feldkamp looked like a very large 184. I believe Rogers was 13-5 during his redshirt year with his best win listed as Dennis Robin of WVU. Not exactly dominating. I would not count out another portal transfer.
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