Hey WildTurk, a guy said you’re smart. But don’t take offense, I’m not making fun of you. I’m making fun of the guy who said you’re smart.
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Fair enoughHey WildTurk, a guy said you’re smart. But don’t take offense, I’m not making fun of you. I’m making fun of the guy who said you’re smart.
A Thursday Throwback to a match from the 1st Who's #1
Rewatch the match.
Marinelli posted the elbow and took some shots that were stuffed way before they were serious.
Marinelli shot and actually controlled a leg twice and could not finish. In the second period while being ridden for 46 seconds Marinelli twice was looking at the ref wanting a stall call.
In contrast while wrestling White who never took a step forward, Joesph never seems distracted enough from the task at hand to bother asking the ref for a stall call. Cenzo just keeps wrestling.
The only Hawk who never stops and asks for a stall call is Spencer.
I know. I get tired of Desanto standing around asking for a stall.
Even a horrible draw in wrestlebacks ?
I'm going to really miss catch and release drunken sailor Nolf.
I forgot that McKenna narrowed his choice to Stanford and Lehigh. Surprised with the Buxton/Lehigh connection that Lehigh missed on him. He would have really helped the Engineers', oops Mountain Hawks', lineup.
The bigger question is why would anyone in his right mind leave Stanford to go to Ohio State?
Prepare to become the best, second best of all time? Either that or Tom showed him an tOSU recruiting championship ring.
Tanning beds are soo 2018. They have windows now!Better tanning beds and 2nd place trophies
KBay, I liked your post, but then I had to unlike it when I realized that Penn State recruits turn down Ivy-League-quality schools all the time to go to a school (Penn State) with a better wrestling team.
Big difference is that McKenna had already put in two years at Stanford. Two more years there, and he would have been on a pretty good course for life. What does he have now?
He has different goals than you.
If his career goal is to become filthy rich, then Stanford makes a lot more sense -- depending upon his major. (For some majors, it doesn't really matter.)
If his career goals are to win Olympic gold and go into coaching, Ohio State makes a lot more sense.
BTW, Schram also transferred out, and while he got his undergrad degree, a Stanford graduate degree is much more valuable still.
Guessing he has a degree from tOSU. Not as prestigious as a degree from Stanford, but still not something to just dismiss. I'm betting he is STILL on a pretty good course for life.
He almost was individual champ.
His team almost was team champ.
His team almost beat Penn State in a dual.
He almost got to enjoy his robe.
Back when CP was posting as Vaisisforlovers this is my response to his first ever preseason rankings for FLO:
VA has his rankings out, but unfortunately I couldn't get past 133 so I don't know if they all are as dismal. Supposedly these are rankings, not predictions nor personal opinions. As he tells us "Body of work (quality wins and losses) can trump (at times) NCAA placements." And so it does. Buried at #10, AA Senior David Thorn's 2 1/2 years in the Big Ten means nothing when compared to the latest hotshot freshman. Let's look at #9 Gulibon (24-7); 4 losses to Beckman, Morrison, McCormick, and Mango. These must be the quality losses that vault him ahead of Thorn because the quality wins side of the ledger is pretty thin; A sv over Mark Grey, a retirement victory over Martellotti, and his crowning achievement in beating NCAA qualifer Dicamillo. Of course Gulibon did beat VA's man-crush Clark in high school, but these are rankings based solely upon college results so I digress.
When I do my aggregate rankings I throw out the high and low rankings then mean average the rest. So Flo 10th, Intermat & AWN 7th, D1CW & WIN 5th (125), WR 4th (125) = 6th
Lol, delusional. Your first sentence debunks your initial claim. Marinelli attacked the whole match, and it cost him because Lewis scored on a reshot to win it off an over aggressive Marinelli.
Why did he look for a stall call on bottom? Well, it might have had something to do with the fact that Lewis dropped to a leg when Marinelli got to his feet in the center circle, and ran him all the way off the mat. That's stalling. You're also overplaying Marinelli's reaction. His hands went up for a second as Lewis drove him off, but he quickly got up and ran back to the center without saying a word.
What makes this post truly laughable is that you compare Marinelli's offensive output to Joseph's as if Joseph is a good representative of high output offense. I just rewatched both of those matches and counted committed attacks for all 4 wrestlers:
Marinelli - 12 committed attacks vs. Lewis - 4 committed attacks (all reshots off Marinelli attacks)
Joseph - 5 committed attacks vs. White 5 committed attacks (this includes the extra minute of overtime, without OT it stands at 3 vs. 3)
"Cenzo just keeps wrestling." That's a little generous when you compare his output to Marinelli's.
Incidentally, these two happened to wrestle this year, so I went ahead and broke that match down too.
Marinelli: 12 committed attacks, in deep 8 times, finished twice (Cenzo is a defensive wizard btw, great hips and great kick out)
Joseph: 5 committed attacks, in deep twice, finished zero times, warned for stalling in the first period due to inactivity
Listen, make that critique of other Iowa wrestlers, most of their team in fact. But don't make that critique of Marinelli and expect to be taken seriously. He's one of the most consistently aggressive wrestlers in the country.
Trying to figure out if this is Moriah, or Alex's mom.
Has to be Alex's mom as Moriah is predicting 11AAs, 6 finalists, and 172 points (that's her job!).I actually do like Alex's wrestling style, and glad he went to Iowa, versus $osu, where he really hasn't affected PSU dominance in titles or duals. If he went to $osu, it would have been a lot tighter in the team race with him as their 165 versus Te'Shawn (I think I have that right)
PS: Yes. Looked it up. Te'Shawn had 1.5 points and Alex had 13 points, and PSU finished "only" 8 points ahead of $OSU
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Marinelli is a worker and all class on the mat. PSU fans would love him if he were a Nittany Lion.
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If you think Marinelli had 12 "committed" attacks then I have to assume you count a step forward as a committed attempt.
Go back and have someone read my post to you.
I admitted Marinelli posted the elbow and took some shots, that were stuffed before they became serious. If you take a kind of a shot but don't get to at least a leg how committed was your shot? Or maybe you were just looking busy, wrestling for a stall call.
Marinelli shot and gained controlled of the leg twice. Lewis shot and gained control of the leg once. Lewis scored with his limited opportunity, Marinelli did not.
You babble about how you can not take my post seriously, yet you admit I am correct and Marinelli was looking at the ref for a stall. You did only acknowledge one occurance, but he was asking twice.
Marinelli is generally fun to watch wrestle. However my first post was about wrestling for a stall call and allowing other talented wrestlers to hang around waiting for a stall call can get you bit in the behind. At nationals against Lewis Marinelli was wrestling for a stall call, not to score and it cost him. That style is frequently seen in Hawkeye wrestling. The only Hawk I have never seen looking to the ref for a stall call is Spencer.
The only point the Joesph reference in my post was that in a close match where the opponent is actually wrestling in reverse Joesph maintains his focus on wrestling, not pleading for a stall call. Rarely do you see a Penn Stater look to the ref for a helpful stall call.
There is a difference in the approach each team takes. As long as the Hawks focus on stall calls for offensive scoring they will struggle at Big10s and nationals.
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Filth about Iowa wrestling? Like what? I guess you probably dismiss the idea that Iowa practices the push to the edge and scream for a stall call technique, and that is OK since objectivity is not always your strong suit. Apparently you also struggle distinguishing the difference between Iowa wrestling and wrestlers versus the clown station known as HR.
Nit6 can be a bit abrasive, but he's a straight shooter.
Your focus has been developing a pretty good backhand game
.Opposites attract?
He is a dirt ball. And that's ok. Just calling it like I see it.Nit6 can be a bit abrasive, but he's a straight shooter.
Your focus has been developing a pretty good backhand game
Opposites attract?
Nitlion6 calling out another poster for not being objective..... The dictionary doesn't even define irony this well.
Again, delusional. You can say Marinelli didn't have committed attacks only if your definition of a committed attack is "getting to a leg." Spoken like someone who has no idea what they are talking about. Do you know how hard it is to simply "get to a leg" at this level, especially against a defensive specialist like Lewis?
The appropriate definition of a committed attack is to change levels, cover some space, and your hands go to the leg. Just because it didn't work doesn't mean you didn't try. My toddlers understand that high effort does not always equal success, yet you seem blind to that very elementary concept. Come on man.
If you define committed attacks like you do, Joseph only "wrestles" about 1-2 times a match against anybody with a pulse, which for the record isn't true imo because I don't have a silly definition of a committed attack. Do I need to link the match video with time stamps so you can learn a little about wrestling today?
I think it says it all that you're focusing on Marinelli wanting a stall call as he goes out of bounds (when his opponent was blatantly stalling on top) instead of how aggressive the wrestlers actually were. It's not like he stopped wrestling. He was out of bounds. If you focused on actual wrestling match activity, you'd have to admit Joseph is significantly less active than Marinelli. Other PSU wrestlers less active than Marinelli this year include Schnupp, RBY, Berge, Hall, Rasheed, and Cassar, i.e. 70% of your team. I also guarantee you that PSU wrestlers have looked to the ref for stall calls. In fact, DT used to do it all the time when people turtled up on bottom, and rightly so. I've seen clips of Cael, as an athlete not a coach, work referees too. It's a stupid argument that you have to use because your point is entirely wrong on the substance. Again, make that critique of guys like Murin, Lugo, Warner, Stoll, but you simply cannot make that critique of Marinelli. That guy attacks whistle to whistle.
P.S. as Turk pointed out, Spencer probably looks to the ref for stall calls more than anyone on the team except maybe Desanto. Pay attention.
Exactly the criteria I use when tallying real shots vs. window-dressing shots.
And you would be correct! I would hope that anybody who has wrestled would be able to understand that.
Like Marinelli not looking for the stall call with Wick on him. The ref didn't recognize his dynamic bottom work and hit him with a couple stall calls. Tommy had to clue him in and yell, "You suck" in his face. Now the ref sucks, nit is a dirt ball and we all know not to question the Bulls activity rate or your feelings could be hurt by name calling and yelling.
@WildTurk
Bro you have been on a roll.
Did you -
Lose your job and now are passing the time on bwi?
Break your member at an inner circle meeting and now bed ridden at the hospital?
Lose a bet with vodka, that requires you to one up his past annoying behavior?
Doing your best yappy little dog routine on the big dog forum?
#yourpoorpoorfatherinlaw
#youseemlikeaguywhoplayshidethecucumberbuttheresnothingwiththatifyoudo
#youareaborebutrecentlybecametheworstpartofaboremeaningyouractshouldbeabouttoexitstageleft
Bro you have been on a roll.
Did you -
Lose your job and now are passing the time on bwi?
Break your member at an inner circle meeting and now bed ridden at the hospital?
Lose a bet with vodka, that requires you to one up his past annoying behavior?
Doing your best yappy little dog routine on the big dog forum?
#yourpoorpoorfatherinlaw
#youseemlikeaguywhoplayshidethecucumberbuttheresnothingwiththatifyoudo
#youareaborebutrecentlybecametheworstpartofaboremeaningyouractshouldbeabouttoexitstageleft
Yeah, I don't understand the idea that Marinelli looks for stall calls. The guys gets after it from the whistle. I hate Iowa but Marinelli is very good and the kind of wrestler I'd love to have at PSU.
Marinelli is good and seems like a great kid but I get irritated watching him wrestle and I don't think a different singlet would change that for me. I'm glad he wrestles for Iowa.
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