I wish I could say I agree, but technically their entire starting lineup could return again next year. This assuming the Iowa AD doesn’t pull a Barry Alvarez, the wrestlers want to return, and their families can afford it.
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I'm assuming Iowa brings their entire team back next year but the gap should be closed where it'll be a legitimate discussion going into NCAAs whereas it doesn't feel like one right now. Consider this:
1. One of Bartlett and/or Lee can actually game plan to be a full sized 149. That's huge because I think that allows us 2 contenders at 2 weights whereas it's pretty iffy Beau scores much right now at 149 since he's basically a 141 giving it a go.
2. Our freshman actually get a full season of experience rather than under 5 matches. Kerkvliet, Howard and Beard all battled some kind of illness/injury this year as they all missed matches. This also allows them to earn some seeds where they aren't facing AA level guys 1st round probably. Our guys are younger than Iowa and thus are inherently further from their ceilings.
3. More teams come to play in general and Iowa doesn't get a turkey shoot the first 2 rounds. As it stands now, I can see them walking 9 to the semis with plenty of bonus and getting plenty of favorable R12 matches if any of them drop there.
1. One of Bartlett and/or Lee can actually game plan to be a full sized 149. That's huge because I think that allows us 2 contenders at 2 weights whereas it's pretty iffy Beau scores much right now at 149 since he's basically a 141 giving it a go.
2. Our freshman actually get a full season of experience rather than under 5 matches. Kerkvliet, Howard and Beard all battled some kind of illness/injury this year as they all missed matches. This also allows them to earn some seeds where they aren't facing AA level guys 1st round probably. Our guys are younger than Iowa and thus are inherently further from their ceilings.
3. More teams come to play in general and Iowa doesn't get a turkey shoot the first 2 rounds. As it stands now, I can see them walking 9 to the semis with plenty of bonus and getting plenty of favorable R12 matches if any of them drop there.
Saying kerk, who has extremely limited folkstyle results would pin luffman is extremely silly
I prefer to think of the Seabass that Jack Mueller rode for like five minutes at NCAA semis. Nick Lee got the goods.
That was an absolute shellshacking. I remember being shocked watching it. Flashbacks to Molinaro - Dake.
It's not something I'd predict, but also not something I'd dismiss.
They wrestled in folk in 2017. Kerk majored Luffman and dominated every phase, including a too easy turn with a power half.
Kerk at the time was a 195 growing into 220. He's considerably more filled out now.
And every time he wrestles someone bigger than 232 he will be wrestling someone proportionally bigger than Bartlett gives up at 149. Most HWTs are far bigger than 232.
Kerk will wreck the brackets and Bartlett will score nicely on the assumed overachiever path.
Malik wasn't sitting. He was standing there in full uniform looking bewildered and embarrassed. I felt really bad for him. He definitely looked to me like he wanted to wrestle Lee. Does anyone know if he weighed in?
Cassar handled that situation pretty well.
What do Snyder, Cassar, Paris, Kerk and even Gable (to a lesser extent) have in common?
Compared to your traditional dancing bear, the best are now stronger, leaner and more athletic. Heavyweight has changed forever IMO
Then they go off a cliff after next year. But PSU will be very close next year even if Iowa returns everyone. I predict we have 4 or 5 finalists and at least 2 champs this year.
Lol. Ok. Hopefully Kerk gets his hands on Cassiopi in the semis. That will be a fun one as well
Exactly. And my less subtle point is Bartlett will handle 149 just fine and he will score.
I think Kerk majors Luffman at least, but seems like Luffman has improved a lot himself (I assume that may include getting bigger himself, but not sure). He lost to Gas Tank Gary 11-4 last year, so I'm not sure his past results are indicative of what may happen this year.
I think that was a tri and he wrestled against Schroder, so yes.
But agree it looked like he wanted to wrestle.
1 and 2 only. Except 157 where Rutgers doesn’t have an entry so the 3 will get a bye at this weight
Thx so much. I’m watching every match, so pumped.
If the Big Ten follows past protocol, which is very likely, we will have a number of gaps of time during the Session I first round. Below is best guess, as pins, and to a lesser degree tech falls, will speed up the bouts.
Mats to be determined. Three Penn State guys have byes.
Howard - Second round of bouts (Bout #5)
TIME GAP - About 30 minutes
Bartlett - 6th round of bouts (Bout #23)
Berge - 7th round of bouts (Bout #26)
TIME GAP likely - Guessing 10-15 minutes
Lee - 9th round of bouts (Bout #35)
Starocci - 10th round of bouts (Bout #40)
TIME GAP - Guessing about 25-30 minutes
Beard - 14th round of bouts (Bout #54)
Kerkvliet - 15th round of bouts (Bout # 60) and that will wrap up the first round.
Second round, plus first round of wrestlebacks we'll see more of our guys, as all 10 will be wrestling. Past protocol is;
Do the entire 2nd round of the championship bracket,
Then do the 19 wrestleback bouts (2 at each weight x-157, where there will be 1)
Mats to be determined. Three Penn State guys have byes.
Howard - Second round of bouts (Bout #5)
TIME GAP - About 30 minutes
Bartlett - 6th round of bouts (Bout #23)
Berge - 7th round of bouts (Bout #26)
TIME GAP likely - Guessing 10-15 minutes
Lee - 9th round of bouts (Bout #35)
Starocci - 10th round of bouts (Bout #40)
TIME GAP - Guessing about 25-30 minutes
Beard - 14th round of bouts (Bout #54)
Kerkvliet - 15th round of bouts (Bout # 60) and that will wrap up the first round.
Second round, plus first round of wrestlebacks we'll see more of our guys, as all 10 will be wrestling. Past protocol is;
Do the entire 2nd round of the championship bracket,
Then do the 19 wrestleback bouts (2 at each weight x-157, where there will be 1)
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After the coaches meeting, and giving the conference time to finish them (check, double-check, and all that), I'd say late this afternoon at the earliest. Of course, the coaches meeting could go 5 minutes and we'll have them sooner
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Anyone have an insight into what mat Carton and Pletcher will be on?
No, lol.
But I’m surprised Rutgers isn’t going to fully showcase VanBrill’s elite wrestling skills to enter both 149 and 157. Then Van Brill will have participated in 4 Big Ten Championships.
Alvarez Rutgers is out at 133 can't make the weight anymore. Metzler will replace him
BTN crew will need to come up with a word stronger than elite to describe him.
Luffman is on his second season as a starter in D1 im sure he has made some improvements since high school
They both have. Kerk more so.
Also should note that in this year and last, Luffman 3x got packed in under one minute -- including by Zach Elam. Not including his 3:25 loss to Cass.
Like I said, I wouldn't predict it, but dismissing it is similarly folly.
Luffman has improved a ton this year honestly. He didn't qualify last year and I think he has a shot at the podium this year with the right draw and a good weekend.
Luffman has improved a lot since last season. Conversely, per reports on the Ohio Wrestling board, Gas Tank Gary has regressed since last season - he's noticeably heavier and appears slower and more defensive; may not be fully healthy.
He should probably let some of that gas out from time to time.
Funny stat, using points only.... PSU 2017 would have finished 3rd in last years Big Ten tournament also. They scored 130 in 2017, Nebraska scored 132 last year. Cenzo and Bo placed 3rd and Mark 2nd in the 2017 Big Ten tournament.
Later that month .... we know how that played out.
Later that month .... we know how that played out.
Iowa is just so dominant. I hope they don't hurt our boys.
Man the other coaches must not like Indiana if all 3 of the moves involve their guys going lower (2/3 of them from the Rooks family).
Not saying kerk isn't good, but he has only pinned two 0 win wrestlers from Maryland. Not really results that would show that he is good enough to pin luffman
I like the imagery of the Lions doing this to the Hawkeyes. I hate the idea of this happening to a poor hawk. He looks like he hasn't quite figured out what's to come.
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