CKLV

[jack66]

If the OSU kids did more deadlifts, maybe they could get off the bottom.

Signed Q

 

[GogglesPaizano]

Shapiro gassing so badly doesn’t really bode well for his tournament chances unless he can improve that over the season, but I still think he’ll end up as a top 5 in the weight class though dual match results before the tournament season starts.

I agree. The talent level and motor are obvious and elite, but in his first loss, he hit the wall in the 3rd, and in the second loss he never really had it. I expect him to be able to beat almost anyone in a dual. It's still early season, but maybe he has a bit of an Achilles heel relative to gas tank in a tournament setting, or maybe his conditioning is just not there yet. Time will tell but like so many of our hammers that had early freshmen year losses, he still looks like the real deal to me

 

[KCLion]

Wolf (Air Force) 7-5 over #3 Foca (Cornell)

Any questions, lol!

 

[El-Jefe]

Bouzakis & Paddy are showing that it’s more than just recruiting when it comes to Penn State’s success. Obviously, you’re not going to be a champion without elite recruits, but you’re not going to be a champion without the correct training and coaching and environment, either.

This can't be true, Voltz said it's just recruiting.

 

[PSU Mike]

This can't be true, Voltz said it's just recruiting.

I think sometimes people miss the likely piece that CCC see differences among similarly-ranked recruits that translate into success. I’m convinced it’s the hidden piece such that if you did the oft-offered test of trading similarly-ranked recruits from other programs, that CCC’s results would fall between their actual (lower) performance our our guys’ (higher) performance.

 

[NittanyChris]

We know Nittany Chris celebrates Hawk losses more than PSU wins. It’s his one true joy in life.

It's ONE of many true joys in my life. It sure is joyful, though. Like Christmas morning. Hawkeye tears are sweeter than honey.

 

[PAHURDLER]

Any questions, lol!

 

[NittanyChris]

I agree. The talent level and motor are obvious and elite, but in his first loss, he hit the wall in the 3rd, and in the second loss he never really had it. I expect him to be able to beat almost anyone in a dual. It's still early season, but maybe he has a bit of an Achilles heel relative to gas tank in a tournament setting, or maybe his conditioning is just not there yet. Time will tell but like so many of our hammers that had early freshmen year losses, he still looks like the real deal to me

I'm a huge Shapiro fan and I'm sure this will be just a small blip in a hugely successful wrestling career. He'll be great at Cornell. That said, the ever-present question I ask of every elite recruit that goes elsewhere is how much greater their career might have been if they had chosen to be coached by Cael and Company.

 

[El-Jefe]

A lot of the Ohio State guys look like specimens but are very stiff and not imaginative. Can you imagine what our crew could have done with Myles Martin? That kid had all the tools but was lost at sea when the scrambling started. Both Max Dean and Nickal gave him a master class in scrambling

It's as if Ohio State primarily drills in practice and does little play wrestling. IDK if that's true, but that would be the result.

Regarding Martin: not just what Cael could've done. Ryan got outcoached by Koll. Dean has said that they adjusted after each of the 2 losses to Martin that year, and each match got closer.

 

[LOTOlion]

I remember the Shapiro era.

Ah yes…. Pages 1 thru 3. Such a simpler time.

 

[District four]

We know Nittany Chris celebrates Hawk losses more than PSU wins. It’s his one true joy in life.

No just an added bonus lmfao. I kid I kid

 

[Shifty15]

If the OSU kids did more deadlifts, maybe they could get off the bottom.

Signed Q

Or wore flashier robes.

 

[pish69]

He had 1 takedown against 3 D1 opponents before CKLV started.

That 1 was in SV against an Oregon State backup 141 who bumped up to 149.

I was counting the Penn match last night and I also counted the two matches against teammates (Ferrari and Jeserogo). 6 matches, 1 takedown. That is unreal

 

[nerfstate]

I wouldn't be shocked if Shapiro was under the weather or something this weekend. Then again, he could just be getting used to applying his pace against much stronger, more conditioned guys of D1. Time will probably tell. His ceiling is still miles high.

 

[Agoodnap]

I was counting the Penn match last night and I also counted the two matches against teammates (Ferrari and Jeserogo). 6 matches, 1 takedown. That is unreal

But how much did he push and shove? We've all been told that pushing and shoving is how to setup a takedown but have never actually seen them attempt a takedown.

 

[anon_d29z1jdixxwey]

This board is hilarious. Shapiro was a LOCK finalist after the Andonian match. If Levi had lost twice in a tourney last year, this board would’ve gone mad. If Braeden loses once or twice, I can’t wait to see the immediate calls for Steen, or the Hail Mary for McHenry. If Shapiro wrestled for Penn State, this board would be going nuts and asking for Barraclough to cut to 157.

 

[donboy6499]

He can’t breathe after 30 seconds. Give him a month to get back in shape and see how he looks then.

Best part is, we will.

 

[anon_d29z1jdixxwey]

Let's not get carried away. No doubt, Shapiro is the real deal, but complete funk isn't going to beat someone of his calibre 9 out of 10 times. Andonian has a punchers chance against anybody, so that answered some questions.

Well said.

 

[donboy6499]

This board is hilarious. Shapiro was a LOCK finalist after the Andonian match. If Levi had lost twice in a tourney last year, this board would’ve gone mad. If Braeden loses once or twice, I can’t wait to see the immediate calls for Steen, or the Hail Mary for McHenry. If Shapiro wrestled for Penn State, this board would be going nuts and asking for Barraclough to cut to 157.

Sir this is a Wendy’s.

 

[anon_d29z1jdixxwey]

Is it reasonable to think that if Shapiro beats Andonian, Cardenas, Teemer, and Robb, he should be ranked #1?

Hmmm…a bit of cart before the horse?

 

[anon_d29z1jdixxwey]

Sir this is a Wendy’s.

I don’t get the joke but nerfstate did.

 

[jmadden1998]

It's ONE of many true joys in my life. It sure is joyful, though. Like Christmas morning. Hawkeye tears are sweeter than honey.

 

[KCLion]

I remember the Shapiro era.

Nothing Meaningful, 😂

 

[Brian LB-U]

Flo is streaming on YT if you aren’t a subscriber. Action begins at the 11:00 mark.

 

[SlipperyPete12]

125 semis:

N.Prove over J.Volk 8-1
B.Ungar over DeAugustio 8-1

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Nothing Meaningful, 😂

@NothingMeaningful after some of those Shapiro/Foca setbacks:

 

[SlipperyPete12]

133 semis:

K.Orine over D.Cardinal 6-3
E.Frost over T.Knox 2-1

 

[Brian LB-U]

DeAugustio (knee) looks serious. Hate to see that.

 

[SlipperyPete12]

R.Jack over L.McNeil 4-2

 

[wrestlingfan22]

Mendez absolutely puts it on Hardy, 11-3 MD

 

[SlipperyPete12]

J.Mendez majors B.Hardy 11-3

 

[wrestlingfan22]

Mendez looks like the best 141 in the country to me, his neutral game and pace are unreal

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

Mendez apparently benefitted from 8 pounds up..

 

[Cali_Nittany]

It's ONE of many true joys in my life. It sure is joyful, though. Like Christmas morning. Hawkeye tears are sweeter than honey.

You got the quote wrong

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

I wouldn't be shocked if Shapiro was under the weather or something this weekend. Then again, he could just be getting used to applying his pace against much stronger, more conditioned guys of D1. Time will probably tell. His ceiling is still miles high.

Didn't Shapiro take injury time early in the consolation bout against Chumbley? Shapiro didn't look right after that.

Also, I read that Shapiro tweaked a knee at the Journeyman a couple weeks ago. Maybe he re-injured the knee against Chumbley?

Whatever the case, Shapiro is way better than what he showed in that 2-1 loss to Chumbley. Something was wrong there.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Mendez looks like the best 141 in the country to me, his neutral game and pace are unreal

Woods not winning would perturb Lar, Slumlord and crew. They expect a return on their investment

 

[El-Jefe]

 

[Bosox2004]

Didn't Shapiro take injury time early in the consolation bout against Chumbley? Shapiro didn't look right after that.

Also, I read that Shapiro tweaked a knee at the Journeyman a couple weeks ago. Maybe he re-injured the knee against Chumbley?

Whatever the case, Shapiro is way better than what he showed in that 2-1 loss to Chumbley. Something was wrong there.

Not one but two injury times against chumbley.

 

[SlipperyPete12]

D. Carr lost to Ramirez 3-4

 

[wrestlingfan22]

Ramirez with the huge upset win! Olejnik vs Ramirez in the finals