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He and his brother are listed on the OKState Wrestling website for this year.
Yeah, but he was suddenly replaced in the lineup and when Smith was asked about it, he gave a cryptic non-answer, and then he never wrestled again this year. But he’s still in the roster and not in the portal, so who knows what happened.
 
IIRC Downey posted getting a rejection letter. I'm disinclined to go thru his social media to find that, might catch a disease or something.

I guess it's possible that Brands was the one who rejected him and let the University of Iowa play bad cop. But that wasn't apparent at the time.

It depends on who you ask some are adamant he was on the team. I'm pretty sure he never wrestled a match for Iowa so technicality aside I would say no


Yes this is all consistent with what I recall at the time too, which would mostly stand in opposition to @js8793 ’s assertion that the reason Downey didn’t wrestle for Iowa was that TnT took the high road and ran as far away from him as possible. There is not much evidence to suggest that’s the case.
 
Yes this is all consistent with what I recall at the time too, which would mostly stand in opposition to @js8793 ’s assertion that the reason Downey didn’t wrestle for Iowa was that TnT took the high road and ran as far away from him as possible. There is not much evidence to suggest that’s the case.
He didn’t get accepted into the university.
 
Maybe he got suspended for asking for en extra bite to eat.
Hungry Food GIF
 
What I find entertaining is Iowa thinks this somehow is the beginning of a guaranteed 3peat. The Ferrari's are not only going to keep their noses clean for that long but are going to GUARANTEE Them 70 points a year.
3 Vs 96 to get to 70. I thing many of the 93 have a different thought. Iowa fans are bat sh!t crazy!
 
He didn’t get accepted into the university.
And yet @js8793 would have us believe instead that TnT were the ones who deemed Downey unfit for the wrestling team, as evidence that their judgment going forward in the Ferrari wreck would be just as prudent.
since you keep tagging me here’s the man saying it himself about 38:00 min in:


says Tom told him he “wasn’t part of the wolfpack” and didn’t meet the standard to compete for Iowa. went on to say that was because he didn’t want to be micromanaged (told who he could live with and what to do and when to do it).

you can stop yelling at me now.
 
since you keep tagging me here’s the man saying it himself about 38:00 min in:


says Tom told him he “wasn’t part of the wolfpack” and didn’t meet the standard to compete for Iowa. went on to say that was because he didn’t want to be micromanaged (told who he could live with and what to do and when to do it).

you can stop yelling at me now.
Please understand hesitancy to click on anything called "Pat Downey Uncut." Sounds like more revenge porn.
 
I'll take Van Ness over Chittum and Starocci over Arnold...but wait...what happens to Golden boy Nelson if his own dad and uncle recruit over him and give the spot to arnold?
Gabe Arnold couldn't score on Nelson Brands if there were 2 of him out there. He has short arms and a strong lack of level change. The guy will be a non factor his entire career. 5-6 place type guy with almost no bonus. Iowa fans have wanted longer body types and guys who would be bonus machines and this guy isn't it. 3-2 yawn. 4-3 yawn.
 
I was sitting around thinking about wrestling. I think I understand the whole Larry Lee recruiting the portal for Iowa. Larry snags Real Woods for the Hawks. A Stanford graduate, a hard nosed wrestler that damn near secured the first national championship above 133 since Metcalf.
Without Larry doing the necessary screening and arranging the introductions the TnT boys left alone come up with an Okie St cast-off that may not be good enough to make the starting line-up.
 
Gabe Arnold couldn't score on Nelson Brands if there were 2 of him out there. He has short arms and a strong lack of level change. The guy will be a non factor his entire career. 5-6 place type guy with almost no bonus. Iowa fans have wanted longer body types and guys who would be bonus machines and this guy isn't it. 3-2 yawn. 4-3 yawn.
Yup, I think we’re going to see some fireworks here between the parties involved. Gabe talking like he’s the starter when Nelson is Terry’s son, just had a hell of a tournament, and fits Iowa style to a T. I think we see the Arnold’s create a shit show.
 
I was sitting around thinking about wrestling. I think I understand the whole Larry Lee recruiting the portal for Iowa. Larry snags Real Woods for the Hawks. A Stanford graduate, a hard nosed wrestler that damn near secured the first national championship above 133 since Metcalf.
Without Larry doing the necessary screening and arranging the introductions the TnT boys left alone come up with an Okie St cast-off that may not be good enough to make the starting line-up.

Larry Lee may have tried to help in other potential transfers but Real's connection to Iowa was undoubtedly facilitated by Izzy Martinez.
 
Yup, I think we’re going to see some fireworks here between the parties involved. Gabe talking like he’s the starter when Nelson is Terry’s son, just had a hell of a tournament, and fits Iowa style to a T. I think we see the Arnold’s create a shit show.
lol stop. Nelson has one year left. Gabe redshirts. zero problem.

although i am dubious of him making 174 consistently and being effective. still have a hunch he ends up as a 184.
 
This board is so obsessed with Iowa that simply rooting against the Hawks doesn't scratch the itch. They have to create elaborate fantasies about the families of wrestlers too.

If you've ever paid attention to Gabe and Phil, you'd realize how insane you sound. They're happy go lucky country goofballs. 90% of Phil's board content is making jokes, puns, and self-deprecating humor with HR posters. The only time he's been negative is when one of you idiots kept calling the Iowa coaches racist over on HR. Naturally, he got a little defensive there.

If he was committed here, you all would be extolling the amazing virtue of Phil Arnold because he shares the exact philosophy that you all have been drooling over from Cael the last week. His twitter name is "ItsJustWrestling." Every interview he does, he stresses that it's just a game and all he wants is for Gabe to have fun.

 
lol stop. Nelson has one year left. Gabe redshirts. zero problem.

although i am dubious of him making 174 consistently and being effective. still have a hunch he ends up as a 184.
fwiw, his dad said they thought 184 initially but he walked around at 180 all year wrestling 182
 
This board is so obsessed with Iowa that simply rooting against the Hawks doesn't scratch the itch. They have to create elaborate fantasies about the families of wrestlers too.

If you've ever paid attention to Gabe and Phil, you'd realize how insane you sound. They're happy go lucky country goofballs. 90% of Phil's board content is making jokes, puns, and self-deprecating humor with HR posters. The only time he's been negative is when one of you idiots kept calling the Iowa coaches racist over on HR. Naturally, he got a little defensive there.

If he was committed here, you all would be extolling the amazing virtue of Phil Arnold because he shares the exact philosophy that you all have been drooling over from Cael the last week. His twitter name is "ItsJustWrestling." Every interview he does, he stresses that it's just a game and all he wants is for Gabe to have fun.

Let me see if I've got this straight. We're obsessed AND we're idiots??
 
HR/GIA is obsessed with PSU.

We are obsessed with Iowa.

I don’t disagree with either of the above statements, but don’t pretend one is true and the other isn’t.

(For the record, it seems like our obsession is steeped in amusement. Theirs is steeped in utter hate and jealousy. Mostly.)
 
lol stop. Nelson has one year left. Gabe redshirts. zero problem.

although i am dubious of him making 174 consistently and being effective. still have a hunch he ends up as a 184.
So you think he will be food to be played with by Ryder or Barr?
 
This board is so obsessed with Iowa that simply rooting against the Hawks doesn't scratch the itch. They have to create elaborate fantasies about the families of wrestlers too.

If you've ever paid attention to Gabe and Phil, you'd realize how insane you sound. They're happy go lucky country goofballs. 90% of Phil's board content is making jokes, puns, and self-deprecating humor with HR posters. The only time he's been negative is when one of you idiots kept calling the Iowa coaches racist over on HR. Naturally, he got a little defensive there.

If he was committed here, you all would be extolling the amazing virtue of Phil Arnold because he shares the exact philosophy that you all have been drooling over from Cael the last week. His twitter name is "ItsJustWrestling." Every interview he does, he stresses that it's just a game and all he wants is for Gabe to have fun.

Every interview he does, he stresses that it's just a game and all he wants is for Gabe to have fun.

If this is true, then why the hell did he go to Iowa?
 
Every interview he does, he stresses that it's just a game and all he wants is for Gabe to have fun.

If this is true, then why the hell did he go to Iowa?
After continously missing your marked goals and surviving a 5 year physical and emotional beatdown searching for that peaked state of mind, leaving is happiest most fun filled day of your life.
 
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