Iowa Predictions
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Loss to Eierman's backup does not count. Nick did not grayshirt -- he was still in high school. (Wouldn't count if he were grayshirting either.)
Actually that loss was in Nick's true freshman year before his redshirt was pulled.
El-Jefe is right, it was his HS Senior year (he was just in State College being home schooled) He wasn't enrolled yet but training with NLWC. It was Zach Synon (who was a college senior and was a 2x NQ at 133 but moved up to 141 and couldn't beat Eierman) so I get why Jefe isn't counting it.
Ah you're right, he finished senior year in State College then enrolled. Joe was the one who did the same thing but then waited another year and enrolled.
Ah, I am confusing that with the loss to Gfeller the next year. In fact, I didn;t even remember that Nick wrestled at the Scuffle that year.
A few things: I really think Cenzo and Mark are rolling right now. I know HR loved the 2-0 Bull vs Cenzo thing but they're gonna be sorely disappointed if they hang their hat on that.
DeSanto is the definitive fave vs RBY but I'm curious to see how RBY responds to this matchup. Perhaps, he can use his scrambling to his advantage vs a very aggressive DeSanto.
Lastly, I'm intrigued by Cassioppi vs Snacks. Cassioppi is the definitive fave here as well, but he did get ridden for almost an entire period by the Gas Tank. I wonder if he chooses bottom vs Snacks?
DeSanto is the definitive fave vs RBY but I'm curious to see how RBY responds to this matchup. Perhaps, he can use his scrambling to his advantage vs a very aggressive DeSanto.
Lastly, I'm intrigued by Cassioppi vs Snacks. Cassioppi is the definitive fave here as well, but he did get ridden for almost an entire period by the Gas Tank. I wonder if he chooses bottom vs Snacks?
I don't think anybody is beating DeSanto if they tie up with him. He's too good there. RBY is a guy who is quick enough that he can create angles and shoot from space. I think if he's going to beat DeSanto he's going to have to do it like this.
I don't understand why this is stalling (except that for a certain crowd, anything short of maniacal, DeSanto-level aggression becomes stalling).
I think most people would say that wrestling with one arm puts that wrestler at a disadvantage, not his opponent. But then again, I think most people would say that wrestling with one leg would also put that wrestler at a disadvantage, not his opponent.
If I'm wrestling a guy who dominates from one tie or position, I'm going to do whatever I can to avoid that tie or position. That's not stalling. That's wrestling. Standing in the center, but not letting an opponent latch on to an arm is not preventing wrestling or avoiding engagement.
If RBY backs out of every tie and wrestles in reverse all match, then sure, that is stalling. But wrestlers aren't obligated to wrestle in the exact way their opponent wants them to.
Because Iowa fans think that any strategy that might neutralize something their guy does good is unfair. That's really the short answer. It's not stalling any more than not wanting to tie up and shooting from space. Or choosing neutral instead of bottom. Iowa fans just don't like that people try to neutralize something DeSanto is very, very good at.
Geez guys, it's what the fans at CHA do. Good for them, I wish PSU fans would do a little more of that. We're solid as a fan base, heck we're far better than solid, we're extraordinary. Iowa just takes it to another level at times.
I get what some are saying, but it's home mat advantage and what fans should do ... give their guys an advantage. It's something our guys have to block out, some may even get energy from the hostile crowd.
I get what some are saying, but it's home mat advantage and what fans should do ... give their guys an advantage. It's something our guys have to block out, some may even get energy from the hostile crowd.
DeSanto's pace has been ridiculous this season, and he hasn't needed the ties in order to dominate opponents. Seems like an unnecessary disadvantage for RBY if he employs this strategy again, but I suspect Cael will have a plan. Looking forward to the match!
I'm so hyped for this match Friday night. I'm a Niners fan and if I'd find out that they decided to cancel the whole Superbowl because J-Lo pulled a hamstring during rehearsals I wouldn't give a rat's ass. I've had a star on my calendar for the 31st since the schedule came out. I hoping for a safe injury free match for both teams, but I want our boys to kick some ass.
We Are!
We Are!
Pretty sure I tuned in for a PSU match and I heard stalling being called quite clearly from the crowd. Let's at least be a little objective that just because some message board experts call for stalling, it hardly implicates an entire fan base.
Right now would be a great time for someone ( who knows how) to post a pic of Gable statue.
Wrestling has really simple rules for most fans. Rule #1- If my guys is clearly better your guy must keep action constantly or be called for a stall. Rule#2 If your guy is better my guy is simply smart to control the match and wrestle with good strategy. We are all guilty of this to some degree. Iowa has MANY loud mouthed fans, so the entire place sounds like one big STALLING cry. Listen closely during the 141 match and I doubt it sounds quite that way, but in REC Hall it sure would.
Ditto that. CHA may be louder than Rec Hall with their stalling calls, but it is only a matter of degree. Stalling, what;s he doing on bottom, what;s he doing on top. Annoying but it is what it is.
It’s the only thing I hate about going to a wrestling meet. I went to CHA for WNO this year and I think it was the first time I’ve been to a meet where there was an underwhelming amount of cries for stalling.
Absolutely, and Rivera stalls DeSanto out. Iowa’s obsession with stalling is so ignorant it’s pitiful. I doubt a majority of your HR posters ever wrestled. See Retherfords stall ride.
My heart:
125 - Iowa TECH: 0-5
133 - Iowa DEC: 0-8
141 - PSU TECH: 5-8
149 - Iowa DEC: 5-11
157 - Iowa DEC: 5-14
165 - PSU DEC: 8-14
174 - PSU DEC: 11-14
184 - PSU DEC: 14-14
197 - PSU DEC: 17-14
285 - PSU DEC: 20-14
My head:
125 - Iowa TECH: 0-5
133 - Iowa DEC: 0-8
141 - PSU MAJ: 4-8
149 - Iowa DEC: 4-11
157 - Iowa DEC: 4-14
165 - PSU DEC: 7-14
174 - PSU DEC: 10-14
184 - PSU DEC: 13-14
197 - Iowa DEC: 13-17
285 - Iowa DEC: 13-20
125 - Iowa TECH: 0-5
133 - Iowa DEC: 0-8
141 - PSU TECH: 5-8
149 - Iowa DEC: 5-11
157 - Iowa DEC: 5-14
165 - PSU DEC: 8-14
174 - PSU DEC: 11-14
184 - PSU DEC: 14-14
197 - PSU DEC: 17-14
285 - PSU DEC: 20-14
My head:
125 - Iowa TECH: 0-5
133 - Iowa DEC: 0-8
141 - PSU MAJ: 4-8
149 - Iowa DEC: 4-11
157 - Iowa DEC: 4-14
165 - PSU DEC: 7-14
174 - PSU DEC: 10-14
184 - PSU DEC: 13-14
197 - Iowa DEC: 13-17
285 - Iowa DEC: 13-20
125 Iowa TECH 0-5
133 PSU DEC 3-4 (Iowa losses team point)
141 PSU MAJ 7-4
149 Iowa MAJ 7-8
157 Iowa MAJ 7-12
165 PSU DEC 10-12
174 PSU MAJ 14-12
184 PSU DEC 17-12
197 Iowa DEC 17-15
HWT PSU DEC 20-14 (Iowa losses team point)
HWT final 2-1 SNACK rides entire 3rd wins on riding time. Brands loses team point after losing challenge for locked hands.
133 PSU DEC 3-4 (Iowa losses team point)
141 PSU MAJ 7-4
149 Iowa MAJ 7-8
157 Iowa MAJ 7-12
165 PSU DEC 10-12
174 PSU MAJ 14-12
184 PSU DEC 17-12
197 Iowa DEC 17-15
HWT PSU DEC 20-14 (Iowa losses team point)
HWT final 2-1 SNACK rides entire 3rd wins on riding time. Brands loses team point after losing challenge for locked hands.
Maybe but if you watch the Tom Brands interview on this thread
https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/penn-st-match-interviews.302014/#post-7338529
you might change your mind. It’s a little long but he states that the AD’s at Penn St and Iowa have been talking and he and Cael have also talked about Iowa making a return trip to Penn St in 2021-2022 when they won’t have a scheduled Big 10 dual. He says Penn St owes Iowa a charter and Iowa owes Penn St a dual.
Would there be a HR thread calling for rule changes if he did and pulled out a win?
Just listened to It and thought it was great. Honest in where his program was and took ownership for it. He is one of the best during press conferences.
Maybe a clarification of exactly what "presenting yourself" means in a wrestling match. Is a wrestler looking to score if they have an arm held back consistently? Interesting topic really. Atleast to me
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