True, but...you can't just use one year. A five to ten year rolling average would be probably be a better indicator. CU is up there because of Deion. In normal times, you could broadcast an old Bob Ross rerun and it would have more viewers than CU football.
The University Presidents will be looking at “markets” not just football viewing for additional opportunities for students and research dollars.
Prime still has a fan base--whether or not he should is a different question but he does
This is 100% factual. Specific media markets mean absolutely nothing. Use the list, and match who is AAU, and you’ll find the next several additions to the Big 10 conference as each p2 Conference builds a portfolio of schools.
So, Colorado, ND, Utah, and Miami to be the Big?
The Big will fight hard for VA UNC GT and ND is a given, ND is not going to the SEC. If FSU lands in the Big Miami will still be on the outside looking in. FSU would give everything, and more than what Miami can without the problems. The Big is not taking a team that's not financially committed to being in their own stadium. But FSU could easily end up in the SEC. Then if Miami puts up the money for their own stadium I think they have a good chance.
Kansas has been soliciting the Big 10 for years and it's only recently that the door has slightly cracked open. They are doing all the right things to make themselves attractive in football. They have always had the other things in order.
I was trying to make a point that it wasn’t as simple as going down a viewing list, comparing it to the AAU list and taking the top 4 on that viewing list from 1 year of data.
While the Big has wanted to be in TX for a long time with TX off to the SEC the picking are really slim. Would A&M be a take absolutely but that's a long shot. A&M continues to rattle sabers, but I think at this point that's all it is. I think A&M would be a great add and TCU would be no slouch. Both have a pretty big follow. Not sure TCU controls any markets which FOX requires.
That list is pretty consistent year to year, with the exception of Colorado who got a Prime bump . You literally can use that list and select AAU schools with high tv viewership (not already in the SEC) to determine the next candidates. It’s the methodology that’s been used for USC/UCLA and Oregon/Washington expansions.
FSU is not AAU, which appears to be a hard requirement for B1G presidents. As such the only ticket into Florida would be Miami, who is somewhat marginal in terms of tv viewership/revenue but the B1G likely would add them anyway just to get into the important state. The other Florida AAU school option is USF. With a Tampa location that region is filled with midwestern retirees and B1G alum, but obviously the school does not generate enough interest to garner an invite.
Yeah, we would take A&M in a heartbeat, but I just do not think that sour grapes about Texas entering the SEC will guide the decion-making. They would look really bad as if they are running away from their rival and take a financial hit to do so.
Agreed, they aren't leaving the SEC. It's just angst because they feel Texas was deemed more important than them by the powers that be in the SEC--which Texas is. They need to accept they're place as the "little brother".
Also agreed. They should have went hard after Texas and OU. Then let the SEC destroy the ACC.
We disagree on FSU--I'd happily let the SEC take them. Same with Clemson. Neither add much to the Big Ten.
Huge, TX and ND were to have been the package deal didn't turn out so well. Never trust ND. TX would have come if ND had, but ND scuttled the offer.
For the presidents but is meaningless for FOX, however the presidents cast the votes so yes. FOX desperately wants to be in FL I'm not absolutely sure it's that big of a deal for the presidents. They like to be in other states but with their requirements and current and past relationships are very important. I will say that FSU is working very hard toward that AAU designation so maybe they make it the next time. I still think push come to shove FSU makes it in.
That's the thing that kills the narrative that FOX is running the whole show, but it just so happened with USC and UCLA the stars all aligned.
I need to amend my post. I keep forgetting Stanford and Cal are entering the ACC and they are obviously AAU members. Still not used to pacific coast universities being in an Atlantic coast conference!
Kansas seems like Illinois with a little better basketball. I agree it looks and smells like a B10 school but so do Indiana and Purdue but that doesn't mean they deserve a bid.
FSU is a high ranked school by US News & World Report, I believe #55. Say what you want about those rankings but it is a metric out there that carries weight. So academics should not be an issue and if they do get AAU status that is a bonus. I think they are the top prospect for the B10 after ND, of course.
I’d like to see an eastern pod of Penn St, Florida State, Miami, North Carolina, Maryland, and Rutgers.
It would be one hell of a pod. The weakness with the pod setup is that you still end up with a pod in the upper Midwest without traditional powers, somewhat mimicking the east west imbalance that we have had for years. The three other pods would be gauntlets.
I similarly like the idea of PSU in an Eastern pod. You have a good idea about putting ND in the central type of pod. Alternatively, if the rumors about Texas A&M are actually true and they’re crazy enough to join our conference, they could enhance that central pod as well.
They are acceptable from a Big 10 presidents' point of view but as I've said many times down the list. And a Midwest team like Kansas or even a rocky mountain high team like CO or any other in the west or southwest it all depends on how it shakes out in the ACC.
It looks like Clemson and FSU as a pair are both out of the Big 10 running this cycle unless something big changes. At this point I don't see Clemson making it in. I and a lot of other people thought they were a lock now it seems that is not the case at all.
Clemson doesn’t surprise me too much- although I’d love to have them in the conference. It just seemed like their academic status held them back and South Carolina is relatively small compared to Florida or North Carolina to push for an exemption.
My info is FSU at this time has work to do and needs a travel partner. If they could help land a UNC a ND or even a GT imo they would easily get in. In the past the Big has offered ND VA UNC and GT striking out each time but the money then was much different. Down the road I think if FSU wants in they get in but not in this cycle.
