Lock Franklin up Long Term!!!
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Then Smart came along at got them to the NC. Think Andy Reid or Mary Shottenheimer - clearly good coaches but it’s different skills to make a team really good versus a champion.
Joe was undefeated by year 2 or 3 and would have been in playoff if around then.
This seems to be what I can gauge from reading around FSU boards. Franklin seems to know the amount he can expect from an extension and FSU isn’t going to be able to match or exceed. Between the Taggart buyout and a lower than expected donation fund, FSU is focusing on some other candidates.
It definitely sounds like he was interested - there are claims he interviewed twice. Apparently he’s a fan of the area and his family’s beach house is only an hour outside of Tallahassee. There might be some doubts in his mind about the ceiling of Penn State.
When we lose a big time recruit a lot of posters on this board say we don't want kids that don't want to be here. Do we want a coach who doesn't want to be here? I'd definitely like to lock CJF up long term but it concerns me that he would even be considering other jobs. Of course we don't know the details of what's going on behind the scenes. I'd just like to hear Franklin say things like this is his dream job and he can't see wanting to coach anywhere else.
Rankings the last 4 seasons:
2016 7th
2017 8th
2018 17th
2019 12th (so far)
Average ranking 11th (excludes lean years)
Franklin's pay 11th
It doesn't seem that far out of line to me and it's scheduled to increase.
"Compared to other coaches in the nation, his current salary for the 2017 season would not place him in the top 10. However, starting in 2019 and based on current figures, Franklin would jump to the fourth highest paid coach in the nation behind Alabama’s Nick Saban, Michigan’s Jim Harbaugh, and Ohio State’s Urban Meyer. Obviously things will change in other coaches’ contracts between now and the next two years, but that’s where he currently stands."
https://onwardstate.com/2017/08/18/james-franklins-contract-extension-by-the-numbers/
He uses the interest from other programs to get upgrades for the program. And a nice bump for himself. Extension will be announced soon.
at some point a school will say we do not even need a buyout clause. we can decide that you cannot break our contract. you can not show for work, and we can continue to pay you while you sit at home. you are not a slave (i.e. the 14th amendment argument against employment contracts), but we can absolutely prevent you from going somewhere else.
At one point, as some may recall, Mark Richt was rumored to be the frontrunner for the PSU job after the SHTF in 2011. Now you tell me, elf, who you would rather see leading the Penn State program between Mark Richt and James Franklin.
No doubt
Haters are only happy when the spew their hate
If JF left for USC, they would hate the next coach
JF has done an outstanding job and should be rewarded with a significant contract extension
Unfortunately the negative 5% will continue to criticize no matter who the coach is
Interviewed twice? Come on dude. That alone disqualified the claim.
So we’re UCF now, just claiming our own NC’s? We won in 82 and 86 and that’s it, officially. And that was a different time...no scholarship limits, only a handful of programs dominated, we weren’t in a conference....it’s apples and oranges comparing Joe and Franklin.
I don’t hate anything and I certainly don’t hate Joe....I loved the guy and was very happy with him as a coach....although I think he stayed too long. I also like Franklin a lot and I think too many on here remember a time that hasn’t been true for over 30 years. Joe was a great coach through the 80’s, then outside of a couple of years he was a pretty good coach, but not great. Remembering a 20 year window out of a 47 year career and then judging Franklin based on that chunk of time is not fair (and Joe never dealt with sanctions).
I just think too many remember a Joe’s career in a way that it really wasn’t for a long period of time.
According to NJ.com he’s already gone and will announce next week. Other names mentioned have been taken down and only Franklin remains as a viable candidate. Smoke, yeah there’s been a lot of smoke for a while now.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj...-season-finale-vs-rutgers.html?outputType=amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj...-season-finale-vs-rutgers.html?outputType=amp
This is beyond stupid. So, some NJ Rutgers beat writer has scooped the PSU and FSU media types on the fact that CJF is headed to FSU?
Then, we are supposed to believe that CJF has come to an agreement with FSU but both parties are going to keep this a secret for over a month while CJF coaches PSU to their bowl game? Or, even more ridiculous is the idea that CJF will publicly accept the FSU job, but stay at PSU, sign a new class on 12/18, and then head to FSU after 1/1?
Yep, that all makes sense to me.
Not sure how the writer would be scooping anything when he’s using a story that was released last week.
Get back to me when Franklin has 4 undefeated seasons and NO national championships. Whatever will you say then, huh?
No, we're not UCF .. WE ARE .. PENN STATE, 6 time national champs as far as I'm considered!!
No more contact extensions. This same crap every year needs to end.
If he doesn't want to be here then leave.
If he doesn't want to be here then leave.
I really doubt you're a true fan of PSU since you enjoy belittling it's greatest coach ever so much. But that's just who you are.
Yes, I'll give Joe credit for such phenomenal accomplishments that you begrudge him. Again, TO ME he won 6 titles, and that's official enough.
I don’t belittle him, he was a great coach and a great man. Unfortunately he did not win 6 titles as much as we all wish he did. And if you were a true PSU fan you wouldn’t bash our current coach.
Fortunately he did win 6 titles (see my previous posts).
Fortunately I didn't bash Franklin. Speaking truth and facts cannot possibly be bashing someone.
Unfortunately you didn't wait until Franklin had 4 undefeated seasons without a NC to get back to me which fortunately for me means I'll never hear from you again.
Unfortunately for you, you did belittle Joe. So that adds liar to your resume.
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I didn’t belittle him, I spoke facts...he did not win 6 national titles...look it up. And I’be been a PSU fan for 50 years...how about you?
My dad would take me hunting every Saturday during small game season starting in the 50's and I would walk behind him when I was too young to carry a gun. We ALWAYS had to be back to the car before 1:00 pm so we could listen to the first half while we ate lunch.That's when I became a Penn State fan, 65 years ago.
Implying that 27 years of Joe's career were essentially so, so is very belittling to the greatest college coach ever, the one who won 409 games.
I didn’t say so so, I said through the 80’s he was a great coach...after that he was very good but not great. Did you not learn to read in all those years?
You're the one who can't read, I said you implied they were so, so and any rational person reading post #58 would agree. You're a Joe hater trying t cover his _ss and you know it too!
I am not a Joe hater....I’m just tired of people with selective memory regarding Joe.
Wait there I s a young Joe back on the market? If not, I think we’ll stick with James. Thanks Joe, some need to move forward a little bit.
