Flo had him 9 on the final big board (Nomad did it, not Willie). He spent most of his senior year at 15.Willie had Carter top 10. If Flo had him lower, well, Flo.
Flo had him 9 on the final big board (Nomad did it, not Willie). He spent most of his senior year at 15.Willie had Carter top 10. If Flo had him lower, well, Flo.
At the time he meant the D1 coaches. Carter had for God knows what reason gotten less recruiting attention than lesser prospects, and committed much later than most. At one point Willie publicly begged D1 coaches to recruit Carter.Willie did say that a lot of people were sleeping on Carter. Cael saw something in him.
Musta been cuz he was from the historically weak PA AAA? 🤷🏿♂️At the time he meant the D1 coaches. Carter had for God knows what reason gotten less recruiting attention than lesser prospects, and committed much later than most. At one point Willie publicly begged D1 coaches to recruit Carter.
Is TaTo bringing hell again?Closing my eyes and wishing…
(I hope they wear robes…I hope they wear robes…I hope they wear robes…)
All talk until they have to go bottom.As for future matchups, hope springs eternal from Buckeyeville:
“I am on the same page. This recruiting class they are all calling the best of all time.
I disagree and like our recruits coming in better.
I take davino over Lillahahl all day. Davino has beaten Jax Forrest and Blaze who have won college opens beating Ramos and Stinich the top 125 wrestlers in the nation this year in college opens. Davino had more dominating win against Forrest. Both will be good but Davino is a little better imo. Davino has 5 wins over top 14 p4p guys in last year.
Gibson being ranked top 15 p4p was a complete joke. Penn State commitment jumps you up. Gibson is not top 50 maybe not too 100. He lost to Kilkeary last year. He isn’t ever going to start for Penn state. He’s not even top 15 in his weight class imo.
Mirasolas have both lost to Ryder in last year. One will have to go heavyweight and I don’t think will even come close to Feldman. By next year Feldman is going to be a problem for everyone. This is basically his true freshman year. Think steveson jumping levels year two. I think we see same from Feldman.
Sealy and Birden are a wash imo. Sealy got his ranking bc of a world championship. Nothing to me shows he is that much better. I think Birden is still more raw and his athletism can help him jump levels in college. Henckal from Blair lost to Birden also that is coming to Penn state next year. Birden beats sealey and Henckal just 2 months ago and is not ranked in p4p and they both are top 20. Another joke.
There is nothing completely scary about this class. I am far more worried about Jax Forrest and Bo Bassett.”
Don’t tell this guy about Zack Ryder and PJ
As for future matchups, hope springs eternal from Buckeyeville:
“I am on the same page. This recruiting class they are all calling the best of all time.
I disagree and like our recruits coming in better.
I take davino over Lillahahl all day. Davino has beaten Jax Forrest and Blaze who have won college opens beating Ramos and Stinich the top 125 wrestlers in the nation this year in college opens. Davino had more dominating win against Forrest. Both will be good but Davino is a little better imo. Davino has 5 wins over top 14 p4p guys in last year.
Gibson being ranked top 15 p4p was a complete joke. Penn State commitment jumps you up. Gibson is not top 50 maybe not too 100. He lost to Kilkeary last year. He isn’t ever going to start for Penn state. He’s not even top 15 in his weight class imo.
Mirasolas have both lost to Ryder in last year. One will have to go heavyweight and I don’t think will even come close to Feldman. By next year Feldman is going to be a problem for everyone. This is basically his true freshman year. Think steveson jumping levels year two. I think we see same from Feldman.
Sealy and Birden are a wash imo. Sealy got his ranking bc of a world championship. Nothing to me shows he is that much better. I think Birden is still more raw and his athletism can help him jump levels in college. Henckal from Blair lost to Birden also that is coming to Penn state next year. Birden beats sealey and Henckal just 2 months ago and is not ranked in p4p and they both are top 20. Another joke.
There is nothing completely scary about this class. I am far more worried about Jax Forrest and Bo Bassett.”
Don’t tell this guy about Zack Ryder and PJ
Someone in another thread said they heard it was going to be Tim Johnson tomorrow, which would probably mean Malik Amine too. Also--they've been covering a lot of duals remotely from BTN HQ this year, though I could see them on location for the marquis matchups, such as this.Anyone know whether or not Shane Sparks will be at rec hall tomorrow? I’d love to get the chance to meet him and get a picture.
Speaking of him, what are everyone’s thoughts on sparks? Personally I love him and everything he does for the sport. He’s a great announcer who really makes a big impact on the sport.
I remember watching some of Carter’s matches at Hershey his senior year. He was a fine wrestler, but I was much more impressed by Thayne Lawrence* that year and thought both his ceiling and floor were above Carter’s ceiling. Shows how much I know. 😂Musta been cuz he was from the historically weak PA AAA? 🤷🏿♂️
Unfortunately not but I'm sure Willie will be there if you would care for a pic with him.Anyone know whether or not Shane Sparks will be at rec hall tomorrow? I’d love to get the chance to meet him and get a picture.
Speaking of him, what are everyone’s thoughts on sparks? Personally I love him and everything he does for the sport. He’s a great announcer who really makes a big impact on the sport.
Yeah, comparing Feldman to Steveson is going overboard. Gable is generational and an Olympic champ, but Feldman is damn good for college wrestling. He's going to be a contender. Maybe not this year, but he'll be there eventually.3. People are going to need to put Gable in context. He lost to ONE person his freshman year. And was 1 second away from that match going into OT. And he was fat and lazy at the time. Feldman has one less loss (with more coming) in one season than Gable has since the 8th grade. Feldman can't make a "gable jump" and he ain't gonna become the worlds best heavyweight.
Knowledgeable but insufferable!!!Holy hell dude............Take a breathe and let Byers talk !!
He blah blah blah for 2+ minutes at least before he gave Jeff a chance .
Didn't Willie move out west?Unfortunately not but I'm sure Willie will be there if you would care for a pic with him.
I like Willie's hairdo far more then Shane's.
I met Shane at Big Tens last year. Much more laid back in person off mic.Someone in another thread said they heard it was going to be Tim Johnson tomorrow, which would probably mean Malik Amine too. Also--they've been covering a lot of duals remotely from BTN HQ this year, though I could see them on location for the marquis matchups, such as this.
I agree w/ you though--Shane is great for our sport. Man!
He will not be there, as stated earlier in this thread.Anyone know whether or not Shane Sparks will be at rec hall tomorrow? I’d love to get the chance to meet him and get a picture.
Speaking of him, what are everyone’s thoughts on sparks? Personally I love him and everything he does for the sport. He’s a great announcer who really makes a big impact on the sport.
He was still a little intense Paul. Not as intense as Mendez's uncle. That guy was a trip.I met Shane at Big Tens last year. Much more laid back in person off mic.
That take on Feldman is as bad as the Bucknut take on the PSU 2024 recruiting class. Feldman had a pretty serious injury last year. He is now barely halfway thru his first college season and has improved throughout, with a clutch win over the #4 ranked guy in the weight. And he IS pretty darn athletic. Next season he could become a a real problem for most guys.High school is high school, upside matters. Carter was really not that highly ranked coming out of high and could be the only 5 time champ.Also Feldman, not seeing it ,for a smaller heavy weight really not that athletic. Penn st guys get better as they proceed through college ,the only thing that ohio st improve on is their dead lifts.
I'm calling out @HOCKEYGOD11 to show up one of these times. Where you???So I won't see you at local whiskey post match this year?
Don’t ever get married if you don’t like getting yelled atHe will not be there, as stated earlier in this thread.
He would be more effective as an announcer if he would dial it back. I don't like being yelled at.
I was a big Shane-hater in the beginning. Both on BTN broadcasts and FRL.I met Shane at Big Tens last year. Much more laid back in person off mic.
Tell this man.Don’t ever get married if you don’t like getting yelled at
PSU/Ohio State dual meet at the Jordan Center in 2017. Very approachable and told us "this is the best wrestling environment in the country".Anyone know whether or not Shane Sparks will be at rec hall tomorrow? I’d love to get the chance to meet him and get a picture.
Speaking of him, what are everyone’s thoughts on sparks? Personally I love him and everything he does for the sport. He’s a great announcer who really makes a big impact on the sport.
I have this issue listening to Basch sometimes. He'll have a wrestling guest on, but talk endlessly about how much traction a tweet of his got.Knowledgeable but insufferable!!!
Don't have a guest if you like the sound of your own voice so much it's a never ending monolog.
If Buyers got up and left he wouldn't have even noticed.
I remember seeing Carter wrestle in Hershey his senior year of HS. From what I remember, he was a little undefined from a muscular standpoint - a little pudgy. He clearly wasn't cutting weight. And his wrestling seemed a bit raw. You could see the potential in him, though. FF a few months and you could see he got very serious about his wrestling and overall regimen. That told me he was focused and disciplined.At the time he meant the D1 coaches. Carter had for God knows what reason gotten less recruiting attention than lesser prospects, and committed much later than most. At one point Willie publicly begged D1 coaches to recruit Carter.
PSU/Ohio State dual meet at the Jordan Center in 2017. Very approachable and told us "this is the best wrestling envirionment in the country".
Careful what you wish for.so if the bucks get the top recruits every yr then its apparent they need a new coach!
I know it's a subtle difference, but unhinged does not = intense.
Umm no. Carter was a specimen his entire career. Absolutely great genetics.I remember seeing Carter wrestle in Hershey his senior year of HS. From what I remember, he was a little undefined from a muscular standpoint - a little pudgy. He clearly wasn't cutting weight. And his wrestling seemed a bit raw. You could see the potential in him, though. FF a few months and you could see he got very serious about his wrestling and overall regimen. That told me he was focused and disciplined.
But if you were looking at his peers (top 20 HS wrestlers), he was not as "put together" as them. How things changed.
Yeah we had four phases then which was new. The last was he desert in Dugway. We flew from Florida and did a Hollywood jump at dawn. I was too tired to really appreciate it but the memory is spectacular.That was around the time they moved it from Bliss to Dugway, right?
07-12 here.
He’s at MichiganAnyone know whether or not Shane Sparks will be at rec hall tomorrow? I’d love to get the chance to meet him and get a picture.
Speaking of him, what are everyone’s thoughts on sparks? Personally I love him and everything he does for the sport. He’s a great announcer who really makes a big impact on the sport.
I remember seeing Carter wrestle in Hershey his senior year of HS. From what I remember, he was a little undefined from a muscular standpoint - a little pudgy. He clearly wasn't cutting weight. And his wrestling seemed a bit raw. You could see the potential in him, though. FF a few months and you could see he got very serious about his wrestling and overall regimen. That told me he was focused and disciplined.
But if you were looking at his peers (top 20 HS wrestlers), he was not as "put together" as them. How things changed.
But which year is that? He wrestled 160 his junior year and 182 his senior year. My recollection of Hershey could be flawed but I remember him as much less defined at 182.Umm no. Carter was a specimen his entire career. Absolutely great genetics.
I think he was hiding in plain sight for a long time winning on pure heart/guts. The only real indicators I had was him winning the southern scuffle and the way Mark Hall talked about him in interviews during Carter's redshirt year. I think he sold the world with his trashing of Hayden Hidley. No one thought there was going to be that much of a gap. During the 24 hours in which he beat Hidley then Lewis he went from good to probable four timer in the public perception (I was a little more sold than that but to me he was not Bo/Zain level). Now he is an unstoppable legend.I remember watching some of Carter’s matches at Hershey his senior year. He was a fine wrestler, but I was much more impressed by Thayne Lawrence* that year and thought both his ceiling and floor were above Carter’s ceiling. Shows how much I know. 😂
This was senior year. When he beat Stout. I thought he was a 184.But which year is that? He wrestled 160 his junior year and 182 his senior year. My recollection of Hershey could be flawed but I remember him as much less defined at 182.
Carter was a 170 who wrestled up a weight his entire SR year, for the challenge. Zain and Mouse both did the same thing their SR years.I remember seeing Carter wrestle in Hershey his senior year of HS. From what I remember, he was a little undefined from a muscular standpoint - a little pudgy. He clearly wasn't cutting weight. And his wrestling seemed a bit raw. You could see the potential in him, though. FF a few months and you could see he got very serious about his wrestling and overall regimen. That told me he was focused and disciplined.
But if you were looking at his peers (top 20 HS wrestlers), he was not as "put together" as them. How things changed.
Mad respect for the work you put in to know what you are talking about.Carter was a 170 who wrestled up a weight his entire SR year, for the challenge. Zain and Mouse both did the same thing their SR years.
This was never a matter of him being unserious, unfocused, or undisciplined. Carter has always been as serious as a heart attack. He chose tougher competition, and he got it -- that was a good bracket (that would've been great if Nijenhuis hadn't decided midseason he had enough of Carter and cut to 170), and he wrecked it.
Looks even better in a black singlet. Add a little gold trim =🔥Umm no. Carter was a specimen his entire career. Absolutely great genetics.
Looks even better in a black singlet. Add a little gold trim =🔥