I put no one on a pedestal until you personally earned it for me or from me. Right now it’s Mom And Dad and a few other people on the planet the rest I do not trust.
2024 Olympic Trials match and discussion thread
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They sound like stupid girls in those online videos about dating how they demand so much for men, but the instance of man says she should look a certain way or weigh a certain weight. They get all upset. It’s called a double standard.
Yeah, the sock thing was unbelievable. JB was literally playing with the ref.
Burroughs is owed nothing by me. He represented the country has benefited him more than me, and he gets no more respect than the guy taking my fast food order for me. He gets basic human respect, that’s it nothing more I do not care how sacrifice, because I could show you, hundreds and hundreds of people I know who sacrificed to help others. I know people taking care of sick relatives, on their own, gone to war and suffered serious entries, giving everything they had. He’s a guy that got to make a successful living playing a sport, he is owed nothing by me or anyone else because he’s gotten his by his own efforts .
My wife is a smart cookie but knows nothing about wrestling and here she is watching this match with me and notices it right away. Of course she is a mom and a Nana now and you do know when kids are screwing off.
I don't know about deserved, but I certainly understand JB having reached his limit.
Love Mitchell's energy and vibe. Continuing to wrestle past the whistle to the degree he does seems somewhat unique to him. In society and sport, deviating from the norm like that is usually met with some form of rebuke. I trust Mitchell understands this.
I doubt he will continue to wrestle past the whistle for his career. And when a match is reasonably lost (such a wide margin, so late), I hope that will be part of his future considerations.
If I was in his league he would piss me off to no end. I’m not saying he’s wrong, I can see how it would aggravate someone.
And I love it.
Ok. But what does that say about yelling 'career is over?' Is that the kind of basic human respect to which you speak?
I believe basic human dignity is better preserved when mercy is shown to the vanquished.
Who gives a s!!t what a fan yelled at a athlete. If an athlete is that worried about what a fan or fanbase has to say maybe they need counseling or just don’t compete. As far as willie goes, dude try not to get on social media when you’re drunk. Love you content on you’re show but when you get on after to many buds you’re credibility takes a hit. You sound like those whining bitches on HR.
I honestly don’t give one F**k about manning, this weekend is about NLWC and our dudes dominating
Why is Burroughs insulated from banter? Him and manning blew kisses to the same section and talked smack after MM match , then he lost so what do you expect to happen ? JB has been poking the bear (or the nittany lion) for years on twitter and always biased against penn state guys when announcing. Manning is always running his mouth and just recently accused penn state of cheating and lied about the Suriano situation for the whole twitter verse to see .,I’m from NJ and known JB since high school and have rooted for him for over a decade but the guy is a raging Narcissist and a sore loser ..hell it was less than a year ago JB was talking smack about chance for not medaling and claiming he would have
Cheater. The NFL chose to ignore the blatant cheating by the Pats but it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
She should go with it. Imagine how much money she could make being a national spokesperson for contact lenses or better yet Lasik. Destroying your glasses publicly as a positive expression of being able to see again without them, could become a 'thing'..
Well I have seen that one and it was actually entertaining, but having it repeat often would not. How about this, retain criteria but have it only carry over into a 2-3 minute OT? I find that option far better, granted not perfect.
Pretty much. This is it.
This was a JC centric response, not an indictment on the fans or fanbase. The one fan yelled something I wouldn’t. But I also wouldn’t cover my kids ears if they heard it or say something to the guy. It didn’t cross into inappropriate.
I really think that wrestling media overplays how much JB means to fans. I am a grow the sport fan, never wrestled, and watched him all the way back to college. He’s great but he wrestled for the enemy and beats my team’s guys domestically since.
I’m not a Bulls fan, so even when he was in his prime, I didn’t think a ton about Michael Jordan unless he played my team or was in international play. It’s just not how sports fans act. I’m actually kind of shocked the media has gone here with that thinking. But again, every wrestling media member is essentially a beat reporter. There’s such a small circle of things to report on that if you burn a bridge, or upset someone inside it, you’re done.
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What I expected might happen did happen, but that's not the same as what could happen.
I wasn't exonerating JB or Manning. I simply prefer others' bad actions not affect my own behavior.
Just hoping for something better while not putting any faith in men, is all, I guess.
Now that the match and the shock is behind us, who didn't think that fireman's/dump by Ringer on Brooks wasn't a friggin thing of beauty. Wow! I even think Brooks had a quick WTF moment? Then to see him keep his composure and get back to work was equally awesome.
The Zahid match was not my favorite, and was unpleasantly surprising as well.
I am far less convenienced than I was yesterday morning, that this version of AB has a chance against DT. 1 of 3 sure, 2 of 3, now that is a very tall order indeed.
The Zahid match was not my favorite, and was unpleasantly surprising as well.
I am far less convenienced than I was yesterday morning, that this version of AB has a chance against DT. 1 of 3 sure, 2 of 3, now that is a very tall order indeed.
I've never believed that Aaron Brooks had a very good chance to beat DT 2 out of 3, as much as I love Aaron. Obviously, he has a MUCH better chance than Dieringer, Zahid or anyone else of course. Nice to see so much competition in the room, but it's tough seeing PSU guys going up against each other at 65 and 86KG (not to mention the NLWC/PSU matchups at 74KG).
OTOH the latest rankings say Taylor is worse than Micic so he's vulner...
I can't evem finish that.
I can't evem finish that.
Any chance we can focus on Nolf’s victory over Burroughs rather than what one ‘fan’ said after the match?
It seems like this is a distraction and a great disservice to Nolf’s excellent game plan and performance to have his win overshadowed by a discussion on…*checks notes*…proper arena etiquette.
It seems like this is a distraction and a great disservice to Nolf’s excellent game plan and performance to have his win overshadowed by a discussion on…*checks notes*…proper arena etiquette.
Was so happy to see Jason get it done. He’s been getting better and bette, and he used an excellent strategy—he’s ready. Today is gonna be tough to watch in some ways. Lion blood will be spilt, and watching DT tear up about what Dake is going through hit me hard. But Jason Nolf is a warrior, 1st class.
I really wanted to see Burroughs go out on top, and that's why I wish he would have retired in 2012.
Nolf has been so close for several years now and I really want him to break through and make the Olympic team, but it is difficult to root against Dake for the reasons you mentioned. We are in for a few exciting battles today for sure.
Don’t let the wrestling media know about this, or else we’ll get a mean Tweet about it.
25 minutes out!
When:
Saturday, April 20 at 10 am - 2:30 pm EDT; and at 6:30 - 10 pm.
Streaming/TV:
Streaming: Peacock, NBCSports.com, NBC Sports app
TV: USA Network - Day 2 Finals (6:30 to 10 pm)
Session 3 (10 am to 2:30 pm) 4 mats will be streamed, as well as a Quad box option.
Session 4 (6:30 to 10 pm) streamed and on TV.
Session 3:
Round 1 of Best-of-3 Championship Series, all styles and weight classes, plus Round 2 of Best-of-3 Championship Series in the five weight classes not yet qualified for the Olympics. Also the completion of the Challenge Tournament: consolation semifinals, consolation finals, third place bouts and True third (if necessary).
Session 4:
Round 3 of Best-of-3 Championship Series (if necessary) in the five weight classes not yet qualified for the Olympics. Followed by Round 2 and Round 3 (if necessary) in the 13 weight classes qualified for the Olympic Games. The session concludes with the presentation of the U.S. Olympic Team.
Radio:
98.7 State College radio (local coverage only - no streaming). Saturday - last couple hours.
PBP:
Thanks again to @SlipperyPete12 for his hard work. His extremely detailed posts gotta take away from his enjoyment of watching just so that others will have good, accurate information. He's got my nod for Poster of the Year.
Mat assignments/Brackets:
https://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/opentournaments/VerifyPassword.jsp?tournamentId=853157132
When:
Saturday, April 20 at 10 am - 2:30 pm EDT; and at 6:30 - 10 pm.
Streaming/TV:
Streaming: Peacock, NBCSports.com, NBC Sports app
TV: USA Network - Day 2 Finals (6:30 to 10 pm)
Session 3 (10 am to 2:30 pm) 4 mats will be streamed, as well as a Quad box option.
Session 4 (6:30 to 10 pm) streamed and on TV.
Session 3:
Round 1 of Best-of-3 Championship Series, all styles and weight classes, plus Round 2 of Best-of-3 Championship Series in the five weight classes not yet qualified for the Olympics. Also the completion of the Challenge Tournament: consolation semifinals, consolation finals, third place bouts and True third (if necessary).
Session 4:
Round 3 of Best-of-3 Championship Series (if necessary) in the five weight classes not yet qualified for the Olympics. Followed by Round 2 and Round 3 (if necessary) in the 13 weight classes qualified for the Olympic Games. The session concludes with the presentation of the U.S. Olympic Team.
Radio:
98.7 State College radio (local coverage only - no streaming). Saturday - last couple hours.
PBP:
Thanks again to @SlipperyPete12 for his hard work. His extremely detailed posts gotta take away from his enjoyment of watching just so that others will have good, accurate information. He's got my nod for Poster of the Year.
Mat assignments/Brackets:
https://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/opentournaments/VerifyPassword.jsp?tournamentId=853157132
I mentioned that Cox was in the hole to my 15 year year old. When I chuckled, he said I was a child. Haha
Upcoming matches:
Mat 2:
57kg- Thomas Gilman vs. Spencer Lee (on deck)
65kg- Nick Lee vs. Zain Retherford (a couple matches after Gilman)
Mat 4:
86kg- Mark Hall vs. Max Dean (on deck)
Mat 2:
57kg- Thomas Gilman vs. Spencer Lee (on deck)
65kg- Nick Lee vs. Zain Retherford (a couple matches after Gilman)
Mat 4:
86kg- Mark Hall vs. Max Dean (on deck)
I still can't believe I'm rooting for Thomas f'ing Gilman but here we are. I'm hoping nobody around Spencer's mom is wearing open-toed shoes because there's gonna be some glass on the floor.
I'm expecting Gilman to do much better latter today. He has a big cut and is only 2 hours from the scale.
57kg Best of 3 Championship- Thomas Gilman vs. Spencer Lee
P1:
Gilman's ready to go & bouncing around on the mat.
Here we go!
Hand fighting in the center, Tying up & trying to horse each other around
Gilman shoots for a leg, nothing
Back to center, tying up, Lee half shot, Gilman chest lock, stalemate, restart
Tying up in the center
Lee warned for passivity, restart
Tying up again, Lee looking for underhooks, pushing Gilman to the edge, out of bounds, grounded, restart
Tying up & fighting for position
Passivity on Lee, on the shot clock
Tying up in the center
Point Gilman, shot clock, 1-0
Gilman shoots, action stopped, potentially dangerous?
Passivity warning Gilman
Lee shoots, gets a leg, elevates it & pushes Gilman off the mat, step out point Lee, 1-1
Time expires
1-1, advantage Lee
P2:
Gilman pushes forward & they tie up.
Lee looking for an underhook, nothing
Gilman shoots, nothing, head snapping, Lee reaches for a leg, nothing
Back to center tying up & pushing, looking for an opening
Gilman with a half shot, nothing
Lee with a half shot, Gilman blocks him off
2-min left
Lee with a swing single, gets the leg & is working, Gilman grabs Lee's foot & Lee works for the TD, 3-1
Lee has an arm locked up and gets a turn for another 2, 5-1
Restart, Tying up, Gilman looking for an opening, Lee with great defense
Gilman shoots, gets a leg, Lee tries fighting him off, Gilman elevates Lee & returns him to the mat for 4, but they only call it for 2 & Gilman is challenging. It should be either 5-3 Lee or 5-5, advantage Gilman after the challenge.
Challenge Gilman, 37-sec left.
2 points confirmed, Challenge for 4 lost, point Lee, 6-3 Lee
Tying up and blocking off as time expires.
Thomas Gilman DEC Spencer Lee 6-3
Spence Lee wins Match #1, I think this is best of three.
P1:
Gilman's ready to go & bouncing around on the mat.
Here we go!
Hand fighting in the center, Tying up & trying to horse each other around
Gilman shoots for a leg, nothing
Back to center, tying up, Lee half shot, Gilman chest lock, stalemate, restart
Tying up in the center
Lee warned for passivity, restart
Tying up again, Lee looking for underhooks, pushing Gilman to the edge, out of bounds, grounded, restart
Tying up & fighting for position
Passivity on Lee, on the shot clock
Tying up in the center
Point Gilman, shot clock, 1-0
Gilman shoots, action stopped, potentially dangerous?
Passivity warning Gilman
Lee shoots, gets a leg, elevates it & pushes Gilman off the mat, step out point Lee, 1-1
Time expires
1-1, advantage Lee
P2:
Gilman pushes forward & they tie up.
Lee looking for an underhook, nothing
Gilman shoots, nothing, head snapping, Lee reaches for a leg, nothing
Back to center tying up & pushing, looking for an opening
Gilman with a half shot, nothing
Lee with a half shot, Gilman blocks him off
2-min left
Lee with a swing single, gets the leg & is working, Gilman grabs Lee's foot & Lee works for the TD, 3-1
Lee has an arm locked up and gets a turn for another 2, 5-1
Restart, Tying up, Gilman looking for an opening, Lee with great defense
Gilman shoots, gets a leg, Lee tries fighting him off, Gilman elevates Lee & returns him to the mat for 4, but they only call it for 2 & Gilman is challenging. It should be either 5-3 Lee or 5-5, advantage Gilman after the challenge.
Challenge Gilman, 37-sec left.
2 points confirmed, Challenge for 4 lost, point Lee, 6-3 Lee
Tying up and blocking off as time expires.
Thomas Gilman DEC Spencer Lee 6-3
Spence Lee wins Match #1, I think this is best of three.
certainly looked like he went straight to his back
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