I understand that having an older QB with all that experience probably gives us the best shot at winning. However, I'm still disappointed as I never thought Clifford had "IT" like McSorely did. I was ready to move on and it makes it more likely that we will lose at least one of the young guys. Hopefully, it's not Allar. While we might think a redshirt year would be best for him, the kid may have had his heart set on the starting job in 2022.
Football Penn State QB Sean Clifford set to return for 2022 season
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Rudel writes the same snarky tripe that Giger does. Ive read it, so I know.
As for my statement about Altoona, it is indeed disrespectful, but is it untrue?
He really is an idiot. As a PSU beat guy, he has theoretically watched every snap of the season. To watch the OL, run game, and SC injuries and make that statement shows ignorance or complete dishonesty. I won't make guesses at the answer.
Unless Allar comes in and flat-out outplays him, you gotta think Clifford is the Week 1 starter.
My question would be, if a few losses start to pile up, do you sit him and give CV and Allar a chance to begin tryouts for 2023? Also, let's hope the early cupcake games see some pass attempts for both regardless.
Yeah. If anything, this news makes it far more likely to be able to keep Allar (I think it's the best aspect of Clifford staying actually). If we had gotten a portal QB with multiple years of eligibility or Veilleux starting would be much more likely to lead to a Allar transfer. Clifford starting in 2022 won't impact the incoming freshmen QBs at all.
Yeah, that's the thing. I don't mind Clifford starting week 1 - in fact, playing at Purdue would be kind of nice to have an experienced QB that game - but I hope the younger guys get reps early in the season and there would be a willingness to sit Clifford if he's hurt or not playing well.
One of the things that Franklin has not done well is get his backup QBs into games early enough to get meaningful reps. And it results in situations like Iowa City 2021.
As a former PSU Altoona person I can report that it is the Rome/Paris and London combined of Blair County!
this my fear. On the surface this seems like great news. However I think the team will struggle next season, and I cant see CJF ever pulling Clifford at that point. So I think this may end up having a stunt in the growth of our next QB
I just hope he can stay healthy for a whole season and the kids get some meaningful time
What would you do for QB's without the state of Ohio? Just kidding. All serious recruiting is national in scope.
There should be THREE QB's competing to play in 2023, Veilleux, Allar, and Pribula.
But with Clifford coming back it would not surprise me if one (or more) of the aforementioned young QB's is not on the PSU roster by 2023 due to all 3 not getting on the field much if any in 2022.
Unless Clifford takes the 2022 team to the 4 team playoff, this is a bust for the future of the QB position at PSU without an upside.
And I would be extremely surprised if Franklin deviated from his past habit of not playing the 2nd team QB more than a few snaps in the entire season, unless the first string QB suffers a serious injury. That is, only the 2nd team QB. And this past season the only reason that Veilleux played after beginning the season as the 3rd team QB was that he beat out Roberson to be the 2nd team QB - and only after Roberson was a bust vs Iowa which only happened due to Clifford's injury. So on paper if anyone believes that 1 or more of Veilleux, Allar, or Pribula has a higher ceiling than what we have seen from Clifford, then Clifford's coming back can't help but stifle the QB development that is necessary to have a young QB, potentially more talented than Clifford, hit the ground running for 2023.
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What about Veilleux, who actually did outplay Clifford in his 3 quarters of play in 2021....?
What about the possibility of not bringing in a portal QB and letting the 3 young QB's compete to play early in their careers, like the teams that get into the playoff do when they have an experienced QB move on? And their experienced QB's tend to move on early due to looking for a career in the NFL, not look to prolong a mediocre college career.
Actually, when they have QB's that have not performed at a level commensurate with what is required to get to the playoff those QB's get replaced and the experienced QB becomes available in the portal.
This is not a recipe that top programs follow and will not help PSU recruiting going forward either......
Which successful college teams play their backup QBs in situations other than injuries to the starter or mop up duty?
One of the things that Franklin has not done well is get his backup QBs into games early enough to get meaningful reps. And it results in situations like Iowa City 2021.
Well it really hurts when you don't have an OC around for more than 2 years. You spend the 1st year trying to get your starting QB other skill players comfortable with the new OC scheme. Then you only have one year to really develop the young QBs and the OC is gone. Rinse and repeat. It's really killed us offensively in CJF tenure.
Teams that blow opponents out. Something we have had really problems doing the past couple of years.
Tua replaced Hurts when Bama was behind playing for a title. Was that mop up duty?
“Early season cupcake games” are rather scarce on PSUs 2022 season. At Purdue and at Auburn plus OSU at the Beav all on or before Oct 1.
No, it wasnt.
However, Tua Tagovailoa was the backup. Have you seen his equivalent on the PSU sideline the last three years?
Wow, this is unexpected. I’m not sure how to digest this news. The fact is that we have youngsters that want to play, and at least one of them has a ceiling that is much higher than Clifford.
That's a fair take.
Although I don't know how much it stunts development. I think it probably does to an extent, but hard to say how much.
I do think this gives us an extra win or two for 2022. I could see us winning 9 games if things go well elsewhere, whereas otherwise I'd see another 7-5 type of season. But we're a better team in 2023 if Allar had a full freshman season to get experience. So, it's a trade off.
But, coaches worry about the near term. Franklin is probably more concerned about winning NOW than developing Allar for 2023-24. So, this gives him the best chance.
And frankly, Clifford wasn't getting drafted this spring anyway. Coming back was the obvious move for him.
Allar is the future, but a true freshman, any true freshman starting does not bode well. Redshirt a year and learn and let us shore up the Oline so he doesn't get killed when he starts in year 2.
Penn Live is a tOSU outhouse. Explains Jones and company. Giger is a plain jackass.
None of these 3 QBs should be relied upon to start next season. It's all about getting Allar ready to lead this team to a championship in the future. How to best prepare him? Let him redshirt and learn under Yurcich for a year, and then he's more prepared to go in the year after that. The other 2 QBs are there to be backups. This is good for PSU, IMO, in that it is the best thing for Allar.
