Let's hope we win more than that but we'll see who's right if that happens and I'm not the one that's wrong.
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yep does not matter one bit
they do very little that is subjective, unless it is changing seeds around in response to a big player getting injured or something like that
I don’t agree on the two home games being must wins, because we can win at Northwestern and “cancel” that out…need 2-1 however it happens to feel good.
Rutgers may be in the process of becoming a bubble team if they don’t start winning some games.
I mean, in many ways, the whole thing is subjective…it’s just comparing teams and voting who is better based on a number of factors. But a teams pedigree, star player, coach, etc aren’t factors that come into play.
They’re still well ahead of us though…sacrifice Rutgers staying well ahead of us to keep Michigan behind us in my mind.
Doesn't look good. Mich outplaying them at this point and up 8. Roared back after being down 13-3.
the teams that are in or out are not that subjective. a large number of the participants are fixed because they win their conference, all they do is fill in the rest. and they mostly do that by going down the list of some metric (used to be RPI, now a different one) and putting the highest teams in until they run out of slots. when they get down to the very end they look at whether the teams played each other and things like that. in reality there are only about 2 or 3 participants that are truly uncertain. the assignment of seeds are a different story, that is kind of subjective
You’re talking about the NET that replaced the RPI, but that doesn’t mean a whole lot in and of itself, and is more of a sorting to and guide…obviously the 32 auto-bids are in, but voting in the 36 at larges is a lot more than just looking at the NET and comparing a few teams. It several days of comparing teams and voting, comparing teams and voting, etc.
We never should have lost to Wisky at home. That could burn us, hoping not. They have Minny, Purdue and Mich. I see them losing to Purdue at home and Mich on the road. Puts them at 9-11. If we go 10-10 that is good but depending on the BTT who knows since they beat us twice.
We likely shouldn’t have won at Illinois either, so I have a hard time harping on that one. With our style, we’re always going to be high variance where we win some we shouldn’t, but lose some we should.
that's what i am saying
the decision on who is in/out is a sorting exercise and rarely much more than that
th decisions on seeding are more complex
The decisions on in/out are way more than a sorting exercise…it’s hours and hours of comparing teams and trying to figure out which profile is more deserving. Utah St at 31st is in trouble, while Pitt at 53rd is nearly a lock, and Wisconsin at 72nd is right on the edge.
according to the bracket hypesters
i'm guessing Wisconsin is the one of those three who is actually in trouble (or simply out altogether)
Utah St is in a ton of trouble...they have a very gaudy NET and great metrics, but simply no really good wins, and a couple of bad losses. Teams like them are the reason why something like the NET is only used as a guide, since you need to dig in deeper to look at their actual resume.
Sparty, Clemson, Va Tech could all have been wins. At the time it looked like we should have beaten Neb but now that loss does not look as bad. Besides Illinois, not sure we "stole" any others. Maybe catching Indiana before they got hot was a break. Nevertheless that Wisky loss looms. All in all we left more Ws on the table than getting wins we shouldn't have.
Games we lost as a favorite:
Michigan St (-4)
@Nebraska (-4.5)
Wisconsin (-4.5)
Games we won as an underdog:
@Illinois (+10)
Illinois (+3.5)
@Ohio St (+3)
Our Pomeroy "Luck" rating was pretty bad for a while, but these last few wins have brought us back to (-.019), which is 239th/363 in the country. We all remember the tough losses, but even a game like Furman was a one point game with under 2 minutes left. We were down against Butler in the middle of the second half. Iowa was a two point game in the last minute. Etc.
If we go back and play out the entire season again, we're probably about where we should be at this point in my opinion. Came into the season at 46th in Pomeroy, and currently 50th. We're so perimeter based (and average defensively) that we're a bad shooting night away from losing to almost anyone, but a hot night away from beating almost anyone.
I wish our D was better, it could keep us in games where we are shooting poorly. Not sure what the issue is beyond no rim protector. Funk is pretty weak defensively. I just want to make the Dance. Would be huge for the program. Even if we lose in the first round it still beats the heck out of any deep NIT run.
Last night was a road and quad one win so its huge if nothing else for confidence. Wynter plays like that the rest of the way and I like our chances in any game, even if Funk or Dread is bad. I think each of the remaining games are quad 1 (maybe Rutgers at home is Quad 2 now after their loss) so 2-1 in those three wil give a significant boost to the profile.
I don't hold out any hope for Dread. I keep thinking that all he needs is to see back to back shots fall in order to regain his confidence. He was 0-3 yesterday and twice I saw him pass up open shots. It's in his head pretty deep.
Personally I don't care if Rutger is a quad 2 game. Just win. It won't be easy because we can't stop Omoruyi.
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Rutgers at home did drop to a Quad 2 after last night...hopefully we find a way to get it done and keep it as a Q2. They are really playing like a different team without Mag.
Have not followed Rutgers. Did they lose a key player who played in our first game with them?
Thanks just read that. I wonder if McConnell will be available. I see he was hurt for Wisky and Mich.
At this point, I’d take injuries to every member of the starting lineup if that means an easier chance for Penn State to win and get in the tournament.
McConnell played last night…back injury though, so no telling how it’ll respond from day to day.
Nah but I would be ok if boo buie and chase Audige somehow turned an ankle in the morning shoot around
Should just fire Shrewsberry today to get it over with, right Miles?
(and as usual, your post isn't even correct)
Decent start to the day with Texas Tech going down at home to TCU. Charleston won as expected, and Clemson found it again to blow out NC State (they're still pretty far outside the bubble still but that starts to make it interesting for them...though the silver lining is it also helps our SOS).
On to rooting against Arizona St and Oklahoma St...
On to rooting against Arizona St and Oklahoma St...
Lol...claims it isn't correct then posts nothing to prove it isn't.
And I'm not sure what miles is but you got some serious obsession compulsive issues claiming I'm 7 different posters nobody has ever heard of...but go ahead and tell us what they need since all you do is post hate and no facts
Gunsie/Larryrise/WestBranch/Miles (and whatever other handles you used) - Don't sell yourself short buddy, most here know who you are...you're a legend!
First off, saying "1 win in Chicago" without saying when that win is would be absolutely worthless. If we win against Minnesota on Wednesday, it's completely meaningless. If the win is over someone on Thursday, it's a different story. But there is a solid chance we wouldn't need a win at all in Chicago if our first game was on Thursday, depending on what happens elsewhere.
Prove it 😂 Thete
Prove it? 😂 There is no way to prove…. or even come close to proving….. any of this.
Well, except of course for the fact that he's Gunsie/Miles...that would be easy to prove
Kansas State did what we needed and knocked off Oklahoma State...but Arizona State got themselves back into the mix beating Arizona on a half-court shot at the buzzer.
Huge game in progress right now with Texas A&M- Mississippi St. A&M down 2 at the half, but we'd really like them to come back and win it. Also want Kansas to protect their home court against West Virginia in a game that is tied midway through the 1st half.
So prove it psycho. 😆 🤣Well, except of course for the fact that he's Gunsie/Miles...that would be easy to prove
You're a "new member" of the board that has never heard of 21Guns or MilesKauffman, yet you know all about UncleLar or that I support Ed Dechellis (the only handles that have ever attacked me for liking DeChellis are all of yours). Under every one of your aliases, you have the same posting style, and post on the same topics (I mean, everyone posts about football, but you've had a special liking to Wrestling, and trashing the basketball program).
Many know of UncleLar, but you've always had a love of attacking him, and have even found the need to use his real name and not allow him anonymity of his alias. If I search for all posts calling him "Uncle Larry Fall", the only two posters that have ever used it are Psugo823 and 21Guns. For example...
MBB vs Wisconsin @ 8:30
Penn State basketball is well below average as in 11 or 12 out of 14. Worse than mediocre. Mediocre can make the Dance. Yep. You are what your record says you are. 5-8.
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Fire Shrewsbury
Allow me to present the official Parkhill/Dunn/DeChellis/Chambers/Shrews apologist post officially sanctioned by Erial Lion and The late Uncle Larry Fall: It's ok Shrew(or insert another name of the above)is the best coach there is in the B1G 10. Sure his team can't defend anyone but everyone...
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Remember, we gave Donovan two years....
So, after 2017, when this D2 level coach fails, I don't want to hear how we need to give him more time. No DeChellis level excuses for this hire. I think it is a catastrophic failure, but hope to hell I am wrong, but either way, Donovan had two years, Moorhead should not get 4. Fair is fair...
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And most obviously...The phrase "ahoy palloi" is uncommon enough as it is, but yet you continually misspell it as "ahoy palloy" (under your different handles)...
Rose Bowl ? Who threw what into the crowd.
And started a kerfufle? A Ute player, #3, went out of bounds in the PSU bench area in first quarter. He started back to the huddle then went back to the sidelines. Just then a PSU player picked something up off the ground and then threw it into the stands behind him. A bit of a scuffle broke out...
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Sports Illustrated cover
I still get The Atlantic and National Review in print form. I also buy hard copies of books. Some things I just prefer that way to digital.
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Why is Penn State the absolute worst team in the nation on 3rd down conversions?
At just 25% conversions, we are dead last in the country! This seems hard to imagine when scoring 62 points last week. My guess is that we rarely had to convert on 3rd downs last week because we kept getting first downs on first and second down in the 2nd half. Earlier in the season, we kept...
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And the most telling sign is that every times you make your ridiculous assertions (ie, LONNY WHITE WILL BE PLAYING FOOTBALL THIS FALL, MARK IT DOWN), you're wrong and then rather than own up to it, you disappear and come back as someone else. And the timing all falls in line as you moved from Miles to Gunsie to Larryrise to Psugo823, as you either get banned or realize you need a fresh start.
It took you 30 minutes at least to do all this 😆 🤣 😂. Get some professional help psycho. you just went down rabbit holes you clown to prove nothing to nobody and nobody cares anyways. Seriously psycho get some help.You're a "new member" of the board that has never heard of 21Guns or MilesKauffman, yet you know all about UncleLar or that I support Ed Dechellis (the only handles that have ever attacked me for liking DeChellis are all of yours). Under every one of your aliases, you have the same posting style, and post on the same topics (I mean, everyone posts about football, but you've had a special liking to Wrestling, and trashing the basketball program).
Many know of UncleLar, but you've always had a love of attacking him, and have even found the need to use his real name and not allow him anonymity of his alias. If I search for all posts calling him "Uncle Larry Fall", the only two posters that have ever used it are Psugo823 and 21Guns. For example...
MBB vs Wisconsin @ 8:30
Penn State basketball is well below average as in 11 or 12 out of 14. Worse than mediocre. Mediocre can make the Dance. Yep. You are what your record says you are. 5-8.
Fire Shrewsbury
Allow me to present the official Parkhill/Dunn/DeChellis/Chambers/Shrews apologist post officially sanctioned by Erial Lion and The late Uncle Larry Fall: It's ok Shrew(or insert another name of the above)is the best coach there is in the B1G 10. Sure his team can't defend anyone but everyone...
Remember, we gave Donovan two years....
So, after 2017, when this D2 level coach fails, I don't want to hear how we need to give him more time. No DeChellis level excuses for this hire. I think it is a catastrophic failure, but hope to hell I am wrong, but either way, Donovan had two years, Moorhead should not get 4. Fair is fair...
And most obviously...The phrase "ahoy palloi" is uncommon enough as it is, but yet you continually misspell it as "ahoy palloy" (under your different handles)...
Rose Bowl ? Who threw what into the crowd.
And started a kerfufle? A Ute player, #3, went out of bounds in the PSU bench area in first quarter. He started back to the huddle then went back to the sidelines. Just then a PSU player picked something up off the ground and then threw it into the stands behind him. A bit of a scuffle broke out...
Sports Illustrated cover
I still get The Atlantic and National Review in print form. I also buy hard copies of books. Some things I just prefer that way to digital.
Why is Penn State the absolute worst team in the nation on 3rd down conversions?
At just 25% conversions, we are dead last in the country! This seems hard to imagine when scoring 62 points last week. My guess is that we rarely had to convert on 3rd downs last week because we kept getting first downs on first and second down in the 2nd half. Earlier in the season, we kept...
And the most telling sign is that every times you make your ridiculous assertions (ie, LONNY WHITE WILL BE PLAYING FOOTBALL THIS FALL, MARK IT DOWN), you're wrong and then rather than own up to it, you disappear and come back as someone else. And the timing all falls in line as you moved from Miles to Gunsie to Larryrise to Psugo823, as you either get banned or realize you need a fresh start.
"Prove nothing"...lol. If you're going to be a message board troll, at least try to be good at it.
And I already asked if you'd share the number to the shrink that you're seeing for your obsession with UncleLar. Thanks in advance Gunsie.
