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dicemen99

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There has been a lot of talk here about Berge and the lack of RPI, etc. which is going to kill him for seeding. But I'm with @RoarLions1 on this - Berge should just rest, not worry about seed and line up for a run on the backside if necessary. He's not in a position to get seeded without a very difficult match to get to the quarters pretty much whatever he does, and placement points are a lot more significant than advancement points. A lot of unnecessary talk about our 149, 157 & 165, and points at nationals. None are probable to bonus any match there, so any significant contributions will be if you can get in podium position.

OTOH, Hildebrandt likely does have a chance to be seeded pretty high and he is also not a bonus guy, thus placing IS extremely important for him to contribute. I just noticed that he has 8 matches so far. Rider makes 9. He's not going to get six more matches at B1Gs and the minimum for an RPI is 15. If the lack of RPI drops him 4 or 5 or 6 seeds, to me that could really impact his path and give him an additional very tough match to place. What do you think happens with this? Maybe I haven't looked closely enough at it and it won't matter, but IDK.
 
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We'd like to see Hildebrandt avoid the top 3 guys for as long as possible.

Ideally this means being the 4, 5, 12, 13, 20. 21, 28, or 29 seed. Then he'd miss the top 3 until the semis.

To miss them until the quarters, anything except: 14-19, 30-33

Note, all of the above could be wrong if Arujau loses to Glory at EIWAs and drops below Courtney and/or Mastro, who would each be 1-loss conference champs. Not sure if he would drop below 3, but it is feasible.

That's a lot of needle threading, especially since Hildebrandt could place anywhere from 2nd to 7th at B10s. Seems to me that getting him more matches for an RPI would be good, but only if it doesn't hurt his performance at B10s.
 
I know this copout is overused but there's nothing we talk about on this board that Cael doesn't think about and plan for. Cael could have sent Hildebrandt to an open against super overmatched opponents to boost all these things but he hasn't.
 
I know this copout is overused but there's nothing we talk about on this board that Cael doesn't think about and plan for. Cael could have sent Hildebrandt to an open against super overmatched opponents to boost all these things but he hasn't.
He could have even got us the full allotment of 16 dates.
 
We'd like to see Hildebrandt avoid the top 3 guys for as long as possible.

Ideally this means being the 4, 5, 12, 13, 20. 21, 28, or 29 seed. Then he'd miss the top 3 until the semis.

To miss them until the quarters, anything except: 14-19, 30-33

Note, all of the above could be wrong if Arujau loses to Glory at EIWAs and drops below Courtney and/or Mastro, who would each be 1-loss conference champs. Not sure if he would drop below 3, but it is feasible.

That's a lot of needle threading, especially since Hildebrandt could place anywhere from 2nd to 7th at B10s. Seems to me that getting him more matches for an RPI would be good, but only if it doesn't hurt his performance at B10s.
There's a lot to unpack here. First, if Vito falls below Courtney just because he lost to Glory twice, that would be a travesty. Suriano, Glory, and Vito are clearly the top 3 in the country at the weight, and they should be seeded that way (not necessarily in that order, but those guys top 3 in some order).

If Hildebrandt finishes 6th or 7th at the B1Gs, talking about his NCAA seed is pointless because he won't have earned jack shit. Best case (other than upsetting Suriano and winning B1Gs of course, which should get him a 2 or 3) would be to finish second, which should get him a 5 seed and a QF match with Courtney. Lower than that, and he's putting his fate in the hands of subjective decision makers.

I don't think that Hildebrandt will be seeded lower than 3 at the B1Gs. Nick is the obvious 1, but Hildebrandt is in contention for the 2, probably with Barnett. I don't think anyone else can slip in front of him. Schroder, Ayala, McKee, and Heinselman all have multiple losses and DeAugustino has even fewer matches than Hildebrandt. That should keep Hildebrandt on track to be on the bottom half and away from Nick until the final.
 
There's a lot to unpack here. First, if Vito falls below Courtney just because he lost to Glory twice, that would be a travesty. Suriano, Glory, and Vito are clearly the top 3 in the country at the weight, and they should be seeded that way (not necessarily in that order, but those guys top 3 in some order).

If Hildebrandt finishes 6th or 7th at the B1Gs, talking about his NCAA seed is pointless because he won't have earned jack shit. Best case (other than upsetting Suriano and winning B1Gs of course, which should get him a 2 or 3) would be to finish second, which should get him a 5 seed and a QF match with Courtney. Lower than that, and he's putting his fate in the hands of subjective decision makers.

I don't think that Hildebrandt will be seeded lower than 3 at the B1Gs. Nick is the obvious 1, but Hildebrandt is in contention for the 2, probably with Barnett. I don't think anyone else can slip in front of him. Schroder, Ayala, McKee, and Heinselman all have multiple losses and DeAugustino has even fewer matches than Hildebrandt. That should keep Hildebrandt on track to be on the bottom half and away from Nick until the final.

Agree on Vito and that's how I'd seed him too. Plus he has decidedly more quality wins than Courtney or Mastro. My point was we've seen dumber.

DeAugustino has 3 B10 matches left. If he sweeps those, he'll likely be seeded ahead of both Barnett and Hildebrandt due to better wins (Barnett, McKee, Schroeder).

Barnett also has better wins than Hildebrandt (McKee, Schroeder).
 
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