Walsh Ironman
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Then you won't watch it? Why do people complain about their own decisions? Total waste of time.
I'm pretty confident that I'm a lot more unbiased than you.
And you may be correct that Henson will be better than Herrmann shortly - but that would only be because of the Harvard factor (not a swipe at coaching at all - Harvard obviously has a dynamic that is difficult/if not impossible not to get caught up into).
Herrmann is a very tough kid who will translate very well right away. Despite your disdain for him after he took out Henson.
The theme of this entire board is how PSU wrestlers have an attacking style, which I agree most do. Iowa guys push, push, and push some more and look for a stall, which the majority don’t do. But when a PSU guy or recruit wrestles a close match without attacking much, he “basically controlled the whole match, scored when the opportunity presented itself, held position and was never in danger of dropping that match.” I guess when you are the champs you can do no wrong.
I'm still waiting for you to make the connection between the push thing and what I posted.
Unless it's the same thing for you. Which might be the case.
Holy Jaden Bulloch! Taking out Snodgrass in a big way.
Shameless plug - Jaden will be competing at ETR this year.
Shameless plug - Jaden will be competing at ETR this year.
Unlike complaining about other people’s decisions which is a great use of time?
You tell me when this board took shots at an Iowa wrestler for not dominating Mason Beckman or one of the Peppelmans.
Because that is the point you're theoretically making, at least when not diverting into unrelated Sorensen territory.
BTW, not one poster took a shot at Henson for his match against Herrmann, until Dice poked back at Grip -- and even then it was very plainly not aimed at Henson. So spare us the self-righteous indignation.
You are obviously just an Idiot its ok we understand.
My comments towards HS wrestlers are very unbiased. Yours were not this is clear to see
And you are also wrong about Herrmann’s skill set translating well even if he went to Clarion. I wish the young man well, but if he is going to succeed at the college level he will have to get off his knees and that is a fact.
You can admit your wrong in a few years.
Finals Matchups
132: #20 Ethen Miller (Park Hill) vs Drew Munch (Wyoming Seminary)
138: #1 Beau Bartlett (Wyoming Seminary) vs #10 Frankie Tal-Shahar (American Heritage School)
145: #1 Victor Voinovich (Brecksville) vs #3 Lachlan McNeil (Wyoming Seminary)
152: #2 Travis Mastrogiovanni (Blair Academy) vs Dalton Harkins (Malvern Prep)
160: #2 Paddy Gallagher (St. Edward) vs #6 Andrew Cerniglia (Notre Dame)
170: #10 Tyler Stoltzfus (St Josephs Catholic Academy) vs Jaden Bullock (Oscar Smith)
182: #8 Rylan Rogers (Blair Academy) vs Jake Evans (Elyria HS)
195: #10 Seth Shumate (Dublin Coffman) vs Nicholas Feldman (Malvern Prep)
220: #2 Braxton Amos (Parkersburg South) vs #5 Ethan Hatcher (Brecksville)
285: Cole Deery (Malvern Prep) vs Max Millin (Massillon Perry)
106: #2 Marc-Anthony McGowan (Blair Academy) vs #11 Mac Church (Waynesburg Central)
113: #17 Brett Ungar (Notre Dame) vs Gary Steen (Reynolds)
120: #7 Jordan Titus (Center Moriches) vs #10 Cooper Flynn (McDonogh School)
126: #3 Nic Bouzakis (Wyoming Seminary) vs #5 Ryan Crookham (Notre Dame)
132: #20 Ethen Miller (Park Hill) vs Drew Munch (Wyoming Seminary)
138: #1 Beau Bartlett (Wyoming Seminary) vs #10 Frankie Tal-Shahar (American Heritage School)
145: #1 Victor Voinovich (Brecksville) vs #3 Lachlan McNeil (Wyoming Seminary)
152: #2 Travis Mastrogiovanni (Blair Academy) vs Dalton Harkins (Malvern Prep)
160: #2 Paddy Gallagher (St. Edward) vs #6 Andrew Cerniglia (Notre Dame)
170: #10 Tyler Stoltzfus (St Josephs Catholic Academy) vs Jaden Bullock (Oscar Smith)
182: #8 Rylan Rogers (Blair Academy) vs Jake Evans (Elyria HS)
195: #10 Seth Shumate (Dublin Coffman) vs Nicholas Feldman (Malvern Prep)
220: #2 Braxton Amos (Parkersburg South) vs #5 Ethan Hatcher (Brecksville)
285: Cole Deery (Malvern Prep) vs Max Millin (Massillon Perry)
106: #2 Marc-Anthony McGowan (Blair Academy) vs #11 Mac Church (Waynesburg Central)
113: #17 Brett Ungar (Notre Dame) vs Gary Steen (Reynolds)
120: #7 Jordan Titus (Center Moriches) vs #10 Cooper Flynn (McDonogh School)
126: #3 Nic Bouzakis (Wyoming Seminary) vs #5 Ryan Crookham (Notre Dame)
I didn't take it that way I think sometimes posts can be confusing and the tendency is to take it literally. I took it that he wasnt in danger of losing the match even though the score was close. Not sure where the PSU versus Iowa style even came into this.
If your opinion is that Herrmann's ceiling in college is limited by the fact that he goes to one knee a lot in HS - my guess is that you've seen very little of your own squad's kids outside of wrestling for the U of I (while they were in HS). Or a lot of other really good college wrestlers.
Or perhaps the Brands are the only ones that can get kids to get off their knees. You'd probably get some agreement from rossel on that. That's definitely got to be a coaching thing.
C'mon Grip... you can't call Dice an idiot. You know better. If you've read his post he is very consistent at being right and also with great info.
I get the statement made about winning without a wide open style... you're losing your grip when you point that out based on observation or commentary one match (a kid wrestles).
That isn't really the Iowa style we make fun of. Push, push, push, scream for a stall is the Iowa style that gets made fun of.
Well at least you are entertaining I give you that.If your opinion is that Herrmann's ceiling in college is limited by the fact that he goes to one knee a lot in HS - my guess is that you've seen very little of your own squad's kids outside of wrestling for the U of I (while they were in HS). Or a lot of other really good college wrestlers.
Or perhaps the Brands are the only ones that can get kids to get off their knees. You'd probably get some agreement from rossel on that. That's definitely got to be a coaching thing.
Like I said we can revisit this in a few years. Im not going to bad mouth a young wrestler because you will not admit you are wrong.
You don't even know who I'm talking about, lol.
That's ok - I know you're from Iowa and probably rarely leave the cocoon. Except on the web, obviously.
His style is not going to work At the next level if that is No Bueno then so be it.
I watched several of his matches he did the same against Bartlett it will not work at the next level. If we do not agree then we dont one of us is wrong what do you think.
Grip, man -- no Iowa fan should ever try to make a case that a wrestler cannot have success at the college level by wrestling from a knee.
Just sayin'.
Im not from Iowa Im from the east coast and I have done my fair share of wrestling in PA. And that is the problem with a lot of Fans on here they cannot admit they are wrong its all good my friend.
What style is that, genius?
Are you still just talking about going down to one knee?
Do you watch a lot of HS wrestling?
I'm really not that interested in claiming who is right or wrong - even the best D1 evaluators miss a lot. I'm just more interested in the thought process that lead you to your evaluation.
From the gist of your posts, I take it that it's because he wrestled a lot from one knee in neutral against Henson and Bartlett.
Was there anything else you gleaned or does that just about sum it up?
Thats extremely bad example even for you.Grip, man -- no Iowa fan should ever try to make a case that a wrestler cannot have success at the college level by wrestling from a knee.
Just sayin'.
Two questions Genius!
What and how many Attempts to score points in those matches did he have? Besides escapes
How much did he try to improve his position to make attempts?
And by the way I said if he actually wrestled, Bartlett would have scored more points also.
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Great, but could we switch topics at some point
Ok no problem see that was easy.
There are some nice matchups for the finals.
Looking forward to some good offensive wrestling.
I can’t wait to watch this one. Give me Crook
126: #3 Nic Bouzakis (Wyoming Seminary) vs #5 Ryan Crookham (Notre Dame)
I like this one also Nic’s father wrestled upstate Ny back in the late 80’s when I was wrestling I think he was a 4timer when there was only one class. His son is built just like him and wrestles as well
Crookham is a hammer and I have seen a good bunch of his matches very tough.
I will take Bouzakis just to make it interesting!
I don’t think he was a 4 timer, thought his old man lost a few heartbreakers at state before injuries ended his college career early
I will have to check on that, but I know Troy was at least a 3timer and yes injuries just like many of us took him out of the game to early.
You were correct he was a 3timer if I remember correctly he was upset as a junior or something like that.
