World Championships - Oct. 20-28

[psumacw]

I think I'm going to be more excited for the 2020 World Team Trials Challenge Tournament than I am for 2020 Final X (assuming the format sticks). So many incredible wrestlers butting heads for so few slots.

 

[nittinsc]

Bo Nickal started something and it's catching on with the US team.

"......Now we come out here and we get championship after championship after championship. We’re getting medals and titles, and that’s what we do. We’ve meshed as a team and it’s fun to be a part of this," said Cox.

 

[Dogwelder]

The potential 2020 showdown of Zain-Steiber-Yanni at 65kg will be exciting.

Zain Retherford is ten times better than Stieber. If we don’t die, and those wrestlers are alive, we will see them wrestling again in a final for sure. Being a fan with many years of experience, I guarantee that Retherford won’t give Stieber a chance to score a single point. Retherford will wrestle as if Stieber is an amateur. I promise you. That is all. Thank you.

 

[nerfstate]

Sponsorships aside, anyone know what the pay out is for a World Champ?

 

[CropDuster507]

Sponsorships aside, anyone know what the pay out is for a World Champ?

Wanna say 250k from usa. 500k olympic years.

 

[ss7]

Sponsorships aside, anyone know what the pay out is for a World Champ?

The Kyle Snyder article on Deadspin last week mentioned $250K for the Olympics, $50K for Worlds.

 

[midniteride]

With you on that. The USA process to earn a spot is grueling. Below is an April 2018 Ranking of USA Senior Freestylers. Now take the weight classes, and condense to 57kg (about 125 lbs), 65kg (143), 74kg (163), 86kg (190), 97kg (214), and 125 (275.5) for an Olympic year, and one can see the talent vying for the six spots. In two years, we'll be in an Olympic year, my early stab for top candidates to represent the USA are;

57kg: Lee, Fix, or Gilman
65kg: Retherford, Stieber, or Diakomilhalis (assumes the 61kg guys are too undersized, maybe Garrett and/or Colon are in the mix)
74kg: Burroughs, Dake, Dieringer, Martinez, Nolf (and how about Marsteller, Joseph, and a few others?)
86kg: Taylor, Cox, Nickal, Z. Valencia
97kg: Snyder
125kg: Gwiz, Steveson, plus others (Nelson, Bradley, Rey)

One can easily see the effects of the weight class compression. In 2020, there will be a lot of talent sharpening iron.


57 kg/125.5 lbs.
1. Thomas Gilman, Iowa City, Iowa (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
2. Anthony Ramos, Chapel Hill, N.C. (Sunkist Kids/Tar Heel WC)
3. Daton Fix, Sand Springs, Okla. (Titan Mercury WC)
4. Nathan Tomasello, Parma, Ohio (Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC)
5. Spencer Lee, Murrysville, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
6. Zach Sanders, Minneapolis, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
7. Tim Lambert, Lincoln, Neb. (Nebraska Wrestling TC)
8. Frank Perrelli, Bethlehem, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC)
9. Zane Richards, Champaign, Ill. (Titan Mercury WC/Illinois RTC)
10. Eddie Klimara, Charlottesville, Va. (Titan Mercury WC)

61 kg/134 lbs.
1. Kendric Maple, Lincoln, Neb. (Sunkist Kids/Nebraska Wrestling TC)
2. Joe Colon, Fresno, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC/Valley RTC)
3. Jon Morrison, Ann Arbor, Mich. (New York AC/MWC)
4. Brandon Wright, Indianapolis, Ind. (New York AC)
5. Tyler Graff, New Brunswick, N.J. (Titan Mercury WC)
6. Nahshon Garrett, Tempe, Ariz. (Sunkist Kids)
7. Cody Brewer, Evanston, Ill. (Titan Mercury WC/Chicago RTC)
8. Seth Gross, Rosemount, Minn. (Jackrabbit WC)
9. Mitchell McKee, Hanover, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
10. Johnni DiJulius, New Brunswick, N.J. (Titan Mercury WC)

65 kg/143 lbs.
1. Zain Retherford, Benton, Pa. (Nittany Lion WC)
2. Logan Stieber, Columbus, Ohio (Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC)
3. B.J. Futrell, Philadelphia, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC/Pennsylvania RTC)
4. Joey McKenna, Towaco, N.J. (Titan Mercury WC/Lehigh Valley WC)
5. Ryan Deakin, Broomsfield, Colo. (Northwestern)
6. Yianni Diakomihalis, Rochester, N.Y. (Titan Mercury WC/Finger Lakes WC)
7. Evan Henderson, Chapel Hill, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Camel WCRTC)
8. Robbie Mathers, Phoenix, Ariz. (Sunkist Kids)
9. Anthony Abidin, Fresno, Calif. (Valley RTC)
10. Josh Kindig, Chapel Hill, N.C. (Sunkist Kids)

70kg/154 lbs.
1. James Green, Lincoln, Neb. (Sunkist Kids)
2. Frank Molinaro, State College, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC)
3. Jason Nolf, Yatesboro, Pa. (Nittany Lion WC)
4. Richie Lewis, Edison, N.J. (Scarlet Knights WC)
5. Kyle Ruschell, Madison, Wisc. (New York AC)
6. Jason Chamberlain, Fresno, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC/Valley RTC)
7. Hunter Stieber, Norman, Okla. (Titan Mercury WC/Oklahoma RTC)
8. Dylan Ness, Bloomington, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
9. Chase Pami, Philadelphia, Pa. (Sunkist Kids/Pennsylvania RTC)
10. Mario Mason, Morris Plains, N.J. (Lehigh Valley WC)

74 kg/163 lbs.
1. Jordan Burroughs, Lincoln, Neb. (Sunkist Kids)
2. Dan Vallimont, Philadelphia, Pa. (New York AC)
3. Nazar Kulchytskyy, Madison, Wis. (Titan Mercury WC)
4. Isaiah Martinez, Lemoore, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC/Illinois RTC)
5. Thomas Gantt, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack RTC)
6. Chance Marsteller, New Park, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC)
7. Anthony Valencia, Bellflower, Calif. (Sunkist Kids)
8. Vincenzo Joseph, Pittsburgh, Pa. (Nittany Lion WC)
9. Alex Marinelli, Miamisburg, Ohio (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
10. Evan Wick, San Gabriel, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC)

79 kg/174 lbs.
1. Kyle Dake, Ithaca, N.Y. (Titan Mercury WC)
2. Alex Dieringer, Stillwater, Okla. (Titan Mercury WC/Cowboy RTC)
3. Jon Reader, Madison, Wisc. (Sunkist Kids)
4. Mark Hall, Apple Valley, Minn. (Nittany Lion WC)
5. Zahid Valencia, Bellflower, Calif. (Sunkist Kids)
6. Matt Brown, State College, Pa. (U.S. Army WCAP)
7. Mike Evans, Lillington, N.C. (Buies Creek RTC)
8. Josh Asper, Annapolis, Md. (Navy-Marine Corps RTC)
9. Quinton Godley, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC)
10. Myles Amine, Brighton, Mich. (Cliff Keen WC)

86 kg/189 lbs.
1. David Taylor, State College, Pa. (Nittany Lion WC)
2. Richard Perry, Philadelphia, Pa. (New York AC/Pennsylvania RTC)
3. Bo Nickal, Allen, Texas (Nittany Lion WC)
4. Sam Brooks, Iowa City, Iowa (New York AC/Hawkeye WC)
5. Patrick Downey III, Baltimore, Md. (Titan Mercury WC)
6. Myles Martin, Penns Grove, N.J. (Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC)
7. Joe Rau, Minneapolis, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
8. Nick Reenan, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack WC)
9. Gabe Dean, Ithaca, N.Y. (Titan Mercury WC/Finger Lakes WC)
10. Tim Dudley, Lincoln, Neb. (Nebraska Wrestling TC)

92 kg/202 lbs.
1. J’den Cox, Columbia, Mo. (Titan Mercury WC/Missouri WF)
2. Nicholas Heflin, Norman, Okla. (Titan Mercury WC/Oklahoma RTC)
3. Riley Lefever, State College, Pa. (Nittany Lion WC)
4. Timmy McCall, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack WC)
5. Kenneth Courts, Harrisburg, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC)
6. Michael Macchiavello, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack WC)
7. Josh Manu, Annapolis, Md. (Navy-Marines Corps RTC)
8. Don McNeil, Plainville, Mass. (New York AC/New England RTC)
9. Nikko Reyes, Fresno, Calif. (Valley RTC)
10. Jacob Warner, Washington, Ill. (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)

97 kg/213 lbs.
1. Kyle Snyder, Woodbine, Md. (Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC)
2. Kyven Gadson, Waterloo, Iowa (Sunkist Kids)
3. Hayden Zillmer, Minneapolis, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
4. Ty Walz, Blacksburg, Va. (Titan Mercury WC)
5. Kollin Moore, Burbank, Ohio (Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC)
6. Nathan Burak, Iowa City, Iowa (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
7. Blaize Cabell, Fresno, Calif. (Valley RTC)
8. Micah Burak, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Titan Mercury WC)
9. Deron Winn, Fresno, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC)
10. Austin Schafer, Ithaca, N.Y. (New York AC)

125 kg/275 lbs.
1. Nick Gwiazdowski, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack RTC)
2. Dom Bradley, Ames, Iowa (Sunkist Kids)
3. Anthony Nelson, Minneapolis, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
4. Zachery Rey, Bethlehem, Pa. (Lehigh Valley WC)
5. Bobby Telford, Iowa City, Iowa (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
6. Gable Steveson, Apple Valley, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
7. Jon Gingrich, Pittsburgh, Pa. (Pittsburgh WC)
8. Ben Durbin, Ames, Iowa (Titan Mercury WC)
9. Zach Roseberry, Annapolis, Md. (Navy-Marine Corps RTC)
10. Ceron Francisco, Seward, Neb. (Titan Mercury WC/Cavalier WC)

 

[midniteride]

Hey Roar, Does that mean that all of those 125lbers beat Nico in the room?

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Wanna say 250k from usa. 500k olympic years.

Pretty sure it is $250K for a first Olympic win, and $500K for a repeat Olympic win.

Edit: Here is an article with the payouts. By the way, these USA Wrestling payouts do not include the USOC payouts of $25K, $15K and $10K for G, S and B, respectively.

 

[ptomaselli]

So, when are Snyder and Sadulaev supposed to rumble? What's the schedule? I'm not very in tune with the schedule but it almost seems like they're treating this like Ali-Frazier...and more important than Taylor, Dake, Cox etc.

 

[El-Jefe]

 

[jdimes]

With you on that. The USA process to earn a spot is grueling. Below is an April 2018 Ranking of USA Senior Freestylers. Now take the weight classes, and condense to 57kg (about 125 lbs), 65kg (143), 74kg (163), 86kg (190), 97kg (214), and 125 (275.5) for an Olympic year, and one can see the talent vying for the six spots. In two years, we'll be in an Olympic year, my early stab for top candidates to represent the USA are;

57kg: Lee, Fix, or Gilman
65kg: Retherford, Stieber, or Diakomilhalis (assumes the 61kg guys are too undersized, maybe Garrett and/or Colon are in the mix)
74kg: Burroughs, Dake, Dieringer, Martinez, Nolf (and how about Marsteller, Joseph, and a few others?)
86kg: Taylor, Cox, Nickal, Z. Valencia
97kg: Snyder
125kg: Gwiz, Steveson, plus others (Nelson, Bradley, Rey)

One can easily see the effects of the weight class compression. In 2020, there will be a lot of talent sharpening iron.


57 kg/125.5 lbs.
1. Thomas Gilman, Iowa City, Iowa (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
2. Anthony Ramos, Chapel Hill, N.C. (Sunkist Kids/Tar Heel WC)
3. Daton Fix, Sand Springs, Okla. (Titan Mercury WC)
4. Nathan Tomasello, Parma, Ohio (Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC)
5. Spencer Lee, Murrysville, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
6. Zach Sanders, Minneapolis, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
7. Tim Lambert, Lincoln, Neb. (Nebraska Wrestling TC)
8. Frank Perrelli, Bethlehem, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC)
9. Zane Richards, Champaign, Ill. (Titan Mercury WC/Illinois RTC)
10. Eddie Klimara, Charlottesville, Va. (Titan Mercury WC)

61 kg/134 lbs.
1. Kendric Maple, Lincoln, Neb. (Sunkist Kids/Nebraska Wrestling TC)
2. Joe Colon, Fresno, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC/Valley RTC)
3. Jon Morrison, Ann Arbor, Mich. (New York AC/MWC)
4. Brandon Wright, Indianapolis, Ind. (New York AC)
5. Tyler Graff, New Brunswick, N.J. (Titan Mercury WC)
6. Nahshon Garrett, Tempe, Ariz. (Sunkist Kids)
7. Cody Brewer, Evanston, Ill. (Titan Mercury WC/Chicago RTC)
8. Seth Gross, Rosemount, Minn. (Jackrabbit WC)
9. Mitchell McKee, Hanover, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
10. Johnni DiJulius, New Brunswick, N.J. (Titan Mercury WC)

65 kg/143 lbs.
1. Zain Retherford, Benton, Pa. (Nittany Lion WC)
2. Logan Stieber, Columbus, Ohio (Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC)
3. B.J. Futrell, Philadelphia, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC/Pennsylvania RTC)
4. Joey McKenna, Towaco, N.J. (Titan Mercury WC/Lehigh Valley WC)
5. Ryan Deakin, Broomsfield, Colo. (Northwestern)
6. Yianni Diakomihalis, Rochester, N.Y. (Titan Mercury WC/Finger Lakes WC)
7. Evan Henderson, Chapel Hill, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Camel WCRTC)
8. Robbie Mathers, Phoenix, Ariz. (Sunkist Kids)
9. Anthony Abidin, Fresno, Calif. (Valley RTC)
10. Josh Kindig, Chapel Hill, N.C. (Sunkist Kids)

70kg/154 lbs.
1. James Green, Lincoln, Neb. (Sunkist Kids)
2. Frank Molinaro, State College, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC)
3. Jason Nolf, Yatesboro, Pa. (Nittany Lion WC)
4. Richie Lewis, Edison, N.J. (Scarlet Knights WC)
5. Kyle Ruschell, Madison, Wisc. (New York AC)
6. Jason Chamberlain, Fresno, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC/Valley RTC)
7. Hunter Stieber, Norman, Okla. (Titan Mercury WC/Oklahoma RTC)
8. Dylan Ness, Bloomington, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
9. Chase Pami, Philadelphia, Pa. (Sunkist Kids/Pennsylvania RTC)
10. Mario Mason, Morris Plains, N.J. (Lehigh Valley WC)

74 kg/163 lbs.
1. Jordan Burroughs, Lincoln, Neb. (Sunkist Kids)
2. Dan Vallimont, Philadelphia, Pa. (New York AC)
3. Nazar Kulchytskyy, Madison, Wis. (Titan Mercury WC)
4. Isaiah Martinez, Lemoore, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC/Illinois RTC)
5. Thomas Gantt, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack RTC)
6. Chance Marsteller, New Park, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC)
7. Anthony Valencia, Bellflower, Calif. (Sunkist Kids)
8. Vincenzo Joseph, Pittsburgh, Pa. (Nittany Lion WC)
9. Alex Marinelli, Miamisburg, Ohio (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
10. Evan Wick, San Gabriel, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC)

79 kg/174 lbs.
1. Kyle Dake, Ithaca, N.Y. (Titan Mercury WC)
2. Alex Dieringer, Stillwater, Okla. (Titan Mercury WC/Cowboy RTC)
3. Jon Reader, Madison, Wisc. (Sunkist Kids)
4. Mark Hall, Apple Valley, Minn. (Nittany Lion WC)
5. Zahid Valencia, Bellflower, Calif. (Sunkist Kids)
6. Matt Brown, State College, Pa. (U.S. Army WCAP)
7. Mike Evans, Lillington, N.C. (Buies Creek RTC)
8. Josh Asper, Annapolis, Md. (Navy-Marine Corps RTC)
9. Quinton Godley, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC)
10. Myles Amine, Brighton, Mich. (Cliff Keen WC)

86 kg/189 lbs.
1. David Taylor, State College, Pa. (Nittany Lion WC)
2. Richard Perry, Philadelphia, Pa. (New York AC/Pennsylvania RTC)
3. Bo Nickal, Allen, Texas (Nittany Lion WC)
4. Sam Brooks, Iowa City, Iowa (New York AC/Hawkeye WC)
5. Patrick Downey III, Baltimore, Md. (Titan Mercury WC)
6. Myles Martin, Penns Grove, N.J. (Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC)
7. Joe Rau, Minneapolis, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
8. Nick Reenan, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack WC)
9. Gabe Dean, Ithaca, N.Y. (Titan Mercury WC/Finger Lakes WC)
10. Tim Dudley, Lincoln, Neb. (Nebraska Wrestling TC)

92 kg/202 lbs.
1. J’den Cox, Columbia, Mo. (Titan Mercury WC/Missouri WF)
2. Nicholas Heflin, Norman, Okla. (Titan Mercury WC/Oklahoma RTC)
3. Riley Lefever, State College, Pa. (Nittany Lion WC)
4. Timmy McCall, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack WC)
5. Kenneth Courts, Harrisburg, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC)
6. Michael Macchiavello, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack WC)
7. Josh Manu, Annapolis, Md. (Navy-Marines Corps RTC)
8. Don McNeil, Plainville, Mass. (New York AC/New England RTC)
9. Nikko Reyes, Fresno, Calif. (Valley RTC)
10. Jacob Warner, Washington, Ill. (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)

97 kg/213 lbs.
1. Kyle Snyder, Woodbine, Md. (Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC)
2. Kyven Gadson, Waterloo, Iowa (Sunkist Kids)
3. Hayden Zillmer, Minneapolis, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
4. Ty Walz, Blacksburg, Va. (Titan Mercury WC)
5. Kollin Moore, Burbank, Ohio (Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC)
6. Nathan Burak, Iowa City, Iowa (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
7. Blaize Cabell, Fresno, Calif. (Valley RTC)
8. Micah Burak, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Titan Mercury WC)
9. Deron Winn, Fresno, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC)
10. Austin Schafer, Ithaca, N.Y. (New York AC)

125 kg/275 lbs.
1. Nick Gwiazdowski, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack RTC)
2. Dom Bradley, Ames, Iowa (Sunkist Kids)
3. Anthony Nelson, Minneapolis, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
4. Zachery Rey, Bethlehem, Pa. (Lehigh Valley WC)
5. Bobby Telford, Iowa City, Iowa (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
6. Gable Steveson, Apple Valley, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
7. Jon Gingrich, Pittsburgh, Pa. (Pittsburgh WC)
8. Ben Durbin, Ames, Iowa (Titan Mercury WC)
9. Zach Roseberry, Annapolis, Md. (Navy-Marine Corps RTC)
10. Ceron Francisco, Seward, Neb. (Titan Mercury WC/Cavalier WC)

What about Hayden Hidlay at 70 kg. He gave Molinaro and Chamberlain good matches at the US open

 

[NoVa Lion]

Pretty sure it is $250K for a first Olympic win, and $500K for a repeat Olympic win.

Edit: Here is an article with the payouts. By the way, these USA Wrestling payouts do not include the USOC payouts of $25K, $15K and $10K for G, S and B, respectively.

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So, when are Snyder and Sadulaev supposed to rumble? What's the schedule? I'm not very in tune with the schedule but it almost seems like they're treating this like Ali-Frazier...and more important than Taylor, Dake, Cox etc.

Like all wrestling tournaments there is no set time. This session started at noon ET and Snyder's match will be the 6th one wrestled so the actual time depends on the first 5 matches.

 

[Rhino80]

That match looked like one Russian (Bahrain) taking a dive for another Russian.

 

[Rhino80]

I take it tracks team score is wrong? They have us up by 7 going into the Snyder match

 

[diggerpup]

So, when are Snyder and Sadulaev supposed to rumble? What's the schedule? I'm not very in tune with the schedule but it almost seems like they're treating this like Ali-Frazier...and more important than Taylor, Dake, Cox etc.

Track Wrestling showing the first of 2 bronze matches at 97kg.

Sadulaev vs Snyder up immediately after that for 97 kg gold.

Edit - 97kg gold match on deck.

 

[dicemen99]

I take it tracks team score is wrong? They have us up by 7 going into the Snyder match

I believe the software is totaling the entire tournament (including women) and that is why the score is wrong. I could be wrong though.

 

[Reslo]

That match looked like one Russian (Bahrain) taking a dive for another Russian.

Didn't know Bahrain had any wrestlers in the tourney, but either way, it's not a Russian Territory.

 

[Rhino80]

Saw that. They have 20 points added for the US women and 18 for the Russian women.

 

[Rhino80]

Didn't know Bahrain had any wrestlers in the tourney, but either way, it's not a Russian Territory.

Batirov wrestled for Russia from 2004-2016 , hes wrestled for Bahrain from 2016- date

 

[lionlover]

Zain Retherford is ten times better than Stieber. If we don’t die, and those wrestlers are alive, we will see them wrestling again in a final for sure. Being a fan with many years of experience, I guarantee that Retherford won’t give Stieber a chance to score a single point. Retherford will wrestle as if Stieber is an amateur. I promise you. That is all. Thank you.

VERY well played!

 

[tikk10]

Whoa. Pin in 1:12

 

[lionlover]

Whoa. Pin in 1:12

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Well...I guess that Russian coach wasn't too far off...

 

[GOLDBANGER]

Whoa. Pin in 1:12

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Well that's a downer.

 

[tikk10]

 

[nitlion6]

Credit given when due. That was slick.

 

[nerfstate]

Already amped for #3.... Looks like Snyder needs to work on his Mat Wrestling, lol.

Guess that probably puts DT #2 P4P though.

 

[Rhino80]

Snyder could have bailed early. Sometimes it's better to concede 2 and belly out

 

[lionlover]

Already amped for #3.... Looks like Snyder needs to work on his Mat Wrestling, lol.

Guess that probably puts DT #2 P4P though.

Oh yeah!

 

[Flying_Tiger]

What are the odds the USA would have 3 world champs without one being Snyder or Burroughs.

 

[TangSoo]

Is there another ref I'm not seeing? That ref didn't look in position to call a pin. Credit to the Russian though.

 

[lionlover]

Snyder could have bailed early. Sometimes it's better to concede 2 and belly out

To segue into a different sport: Mike Tyson once said:

"Everyone has a plan before they enter the ring...until they get hit!"

 

[dunkej01]

What are the odds the USA would have 3 world champs without one being Snyder or Burroughs.

i was thinking the same. such a gut punch right now.

 

[nitlion6]

Is there another ref I'm not seeing? That ref didn't look in position to call a pin. Credit to the Russian though.

He wasn't in position, but as an international sports official who wants to piss off Russian sports officials.

 

[tikk10]

So I guess that Russian coach trolling everyone about how Snyder can't even score a point on Sadulaev is going to take a victory lap.

 

[Rhino80]

To segue into a different sport: Mike Tyson once said:

"Everyone has a plan before they enter the ring...until they get hit!"

Truth , Kyle hasn't spent a whole lot of time on his back

 

[nerfstate]

Truth , Kyle hasn't spent a whole lot of time on his back

That’s what I’m saying. #SnyderToNLWC

 

[pish69]

Ditto here and I would also add Jordan Oliver at 65kg. I don't think he's quite done yet.

I think Mr. Hall will also have something to say at 74kg

 

[jrd23psu]

You always like to see the loud mouth having his mouth shut, especially a Russian loud mouth so this one stings extra.

 

[Reslo]

Batirov wrestled for Russia from 2004-2016 , hes wrestled for Bahrain from 2016- date

Oh wow, good pull! Very informative, thanks.