Iowa is always "closing the gap". Signed Zain RetherfordReturning points:
PSU 143.0
Iowa 65.5
Cornell 62.0
Missouri 61.0
NC State 48.0
Iowa includes Franek and Caliendo, excludes Siebrecht and Kennedy since at the same weights as the new guys.
Last year: Franek 13.5, Siebrecht 1.5; Caliendo 6.5, Kennedy 1.5.
What it looks like when DT and the PSU coaching staff have a baby 😂Full list of 157 national title contenders:
Returning points:
PSU 143.0
Iowa 65.5
Cornell 62.0
Missouri 61.0
NC State 48.0
Iowa includes Franek and Caliendo, excludes Siebrecht and Kennedy since at the same weights as the new guys.
Last year: Franek 13.5, Siebrecht 1.5; Caliendo 6.5, Kennedy 1.5.
165 LeviIowa proposes new lineup for next year:
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and Franek will be???
Maybe even bigger.165 Levi
165 Mesenbrink
165 Facundo
165 Starocci (dropping for Olympics)
We win just as convincingly.
I’d rather have Caliendo than Kennedy so I think that’s a big pickup. The problem is that they both have a similar body type and I can’t see either one being a super effective guy at 174. Will be interesting to watch play out. Overall though this definitely makes them better for next year. I like Cobe quite a bit but Franek is a definite upgrade. Do Cobe or Kennedy have any sort of redshirt available to them?
Hope both fellas have good medical insuranceFranek and Caliendo to Iowa:
Fresh meat for CarterBoth already used a redshirt. I'm curious what happens with PK.
Even if one of them were effective at 174 -- that would either drive Brands to 184 and Assad to 197, or push one of them to the bench. That doesn't seem to help their lineup overall.I’d rather have Caliendo than Kennedy so I think that’s a big pickup. The problem is that they both have a similar body type and I can’t see either one being a super effective guy at 174. Will be interesting to watch play out. Overall though this definitely makes them better for next year. I like Cobe quite a bit but Franek is a definite upgrade. Do Cobe or Kennedy have any sort of redshirt available to them?
I bet Franek Caliendo will be really good at impersonating all of the Iowa wrestlers and coaches!Franek and Caliendo to Iowa:
This is it.Even if one of them were effective at 174 -- that would either drive Brands to 184 and Assad to 197, or push one of them to the bench. That doesn't seem to help their lineup overall.
Brands is a SR and Arnold is gonna shirt anyway ... but in 2025:This is it.
And what to do about Arnold?
Just doesn’t feel like we have a whole bunch of optimization here. And if the answer is that Gabe is the best guy… this is terrible use of resources.
Iowa is making second feel more like tenth.Franek is a huge upgrade over Cobe. Only way Cobe would come close to his points is if he makes the podium while grabbing 2 pins on the way (which I guess is possible with his style) Then he is at around 10 points but Franek is a much more sure thing to get on the podium.
I think Kennedy and Caliendo are close but you have to give the nod to the guy who beat Shane Griffith and placed last year (though to be honest, Griffith always looks more mortal in regular season than the postseason) Iowa needed some good news in the offseason bottom line. This move definitely gives them a better shot to finish a distant second again.
Iowa proposes new lineup for next year:
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Franek has one year remaining and will be the starter at 157. He's an upgrade (i.e., higher floor and more consistency) over Cobe, though would not say a "huge" upgrade as others have opined. In any event, would not consider Franek to be a waste of resources, particularly as any "cost" is limited to one season.This is it.
And what to do about Arnold?
Just doesn’t feel like we have a whole bunch of optimization here. And if the answer is that Gabe is the best guy… this is terrible use of resources.
Took way too long for this reference......I bet Franek Caliendo will be really good at impersonating all of the Iowa wrestlers and coaches!
Ok then. Franek>Siebrecht.Franek is a huge upgrade over Cobe. Only way Cobe would come close to his points is if he makes the podium while grabbing 2 pins on the way (which I guess is possible with his style) Then he is at around 10 points but Franek is a much more sure thing to get on the podium.
I think Kennedy and Caliendo are close but you have to give the nod to the guy who beat Shane Griffith and placed last year (though to be honest, Griffith always looks more mortal in regular season than the postseason) Iowa needed some good news in the offseason bottom line. This move definitely gives them a better shot to finish a distant second again.
If the amount these guys received moves the needle zero, or not much, then it’s legitimately poor management of resources. It becomes a negative, and especially wasteful, if/when one leaves. Just not enough juice to make the upgrade squeeze worth it, not when you likely have bigger holes elsewhere.Franek has one year remaining and will be the starter at 157. He's an upgrade (i.e., higher floor and more consistency) over Cobe, though would not say a "huge" upgrade as others have opined. In any event, would not consider Franek to be a waste of resources, particularly as any "cost" is limited to one season.
Caliendo appears more or less duplicative with Kennedy. But since when is more talent, depth, and competition a negative? Seems the worst case is that someone (Caliendo, Kennedy, or less likely, Arnold) doesn't have a spot and decides to wrestle elsewhere. Or maybe Caliendo or Kennedy can drop to 157 for 2024-25 and beyond (though this seems unlikely).
Overall, these transfers are a plus for Iowa, though they probably don't move the needle all that much in the bigger scheme. And Bob Nichols & company have plenty of money to throw around, so bringing Franek and Caliendo one board hardly seems a waste or terrible use of resources.
He wrestles off caliendo? Which is about as close to 50/50 as a match can get? And then the winner beats the psu 165?Both already used a redshirt. I'm curious what happens with PK.
So close ... so close.He wrestles off caliendo? Which is about as close to 50/50 as a match can get? And then the winner beats the psu 165?
I am good with Caliendo and Kennedy going at it to determine the starter, my money is on Kennedy.He wrestles off caliendo? Which is about as close to 50/50 as a match can get? And then the winner beats the psu 165?
Well if Alex is the starter, he needs to first beat out a U20 silver medalist (and counting ...)I am good with Caliendo and Kennedy going at it to determine the starter, my money is on Kennedy.
I am also good with Facundo going at it with Nolf and Dake to get better year 2.
2024 Alex vs 2024 Iowa, my money is on Alex.
Well maybe.Well if Alex is the starter, he needs to first beat out a U20 silver medalist (and counting ...)
If Mesenbrink Beats Facundo in the room then it won't be Facundo.I am good with Caliendo and Kennedy going at it to determine the starter, my money is on Kennedy.
I am also good with Facundo going at it with Nolf and Dake to get better year 2.
2024 Alex vs 2024 Iowa, my money is on Alex.
No way facundo starts over messinbrink. The guy has no offense, and the argument for him beating Kennedy, or Caliendo ended in the rd of 32 last yearI am good with Caliendo and Kennedy going at it to determine the starter, my money is on Kennedy.
I am also good with Facundo going at it with Nolf and Dake to get better year 2.
2024 Alex vs 2024 Iowa, my money is on Alex.
Fair enoughNo way facundo starts over messinbrink. The guy has no offense, and the argument for him beating Kennedy, or Caliendo ended in the rd of 32 last year
Wrong...LAST YEAR he had no offense. Remember who his coaches are and what happens at Penn State in time.No way facundo starts over messinbrink. The guy has no offense, and the argument for him beating Kennedy, or Caliendo ended in the rd of 32 last year
No way facundo starts over messinbrink. The guy has no offense, and the argument for him beating Kennedy, or Caliendo ended in the rd of 32 last year
Take the blue and white glasses off of your head for 2 seconds and see what's actually in front of you. The guy couldn't beat heller or Bubba Wilson in his second year of college. He isn't jumping to elite no matter how many times nolf techs him in the roomWrong...LAST YEAR he had no offense. Remember who his coaches are and what happens at Penn State in time.
maybe but he will improve more than any iowa wrestler!LOLTake the blue and white glasses off of your head for 2 seconds and see what's actually in front of you. The guy couldn't beat heller or Bubba Wilson in his second year of college. He isn't jumping to elite no matter how many times nolf techs him in the room
Just cuz your almighty Marinelli made it to the qtrs 3x doesnt mean our guy stinks.No way facundo starts over messinbrink. The guy has no offense, and the argument for him beating Kennedy, or Caliendo ended in the rd of 32 last year
No need to put the LOL at the end when you are stating facts. The Iowa transfers will most likely regress due to the Brands bros teaching them how to push and stall.maybe but he will improve more than any iowa wrestler!LOL
easy on Facundo. Freshman had some good shots near the end of the season but couldn't finish in-bounds. He isn't starting from scratchWrong...LAST YEAR he had no offense. Remember who his coaches are and what happens at Penn State in time.
If all goes the way they want, they’ll have two holes …If the amount these guys received moves the needle zero, or not much, then it’s legitimately poor management of resources. It becomes a negative, and especially wasteful, if/when one leaves. Just not enough juice to make the upgrade squeeze worth it, not when you likely have bigger holes elsewhere.