Flo Discusses Results after Week 6 of NCAA Wrestling
12:05 to cut to the Josh Barr discussion
12:05 to cut to the Josh Barr discussion
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Still skeptical? In successive matches, Barr majored Connor Mirasola, Lucas Cochran and Michael Beard (only majored twice in his career previously by Trent Hidlay and Cardenas). C'mon, CP!
He's 19-0 in his college career with 14 bonus point victories, including all 5 this year with 1 top 10 and 3 top 30 on Wrestlestat. I was a little skeptical coming into this year, but he's quickly making a believer of me.
Buchanan majored Beard 12-1 on the backside of NCAAs. Barr has quite the run of matchups coming up with #13 Novak, #5 Little , #3 Elam or Sinclair, McDaniel, #18 Poznanski, #1 Buchanan, #2 Cardenas, #22 Geog, #11 Braunagel. Will be exciting to see how he fares as this is one of the hardest schedules any wrestler has. Then he will have to do it again at B10s.
Every week Barr is going with Starocci, AB, Cael, Jake, probably Snyder. Not only is he drilling with those guys, they are fine tuning his technique so he can achieve success working against those guys.
By the time he wrestles against the other studs in his weight class it has got to feel like a break.
I understand the reluctance to acknowledge what you see in small doses, experience generally teaches us to be skeptical of small sample sizes. At the same time, the sample size of young Penn State studs who have been in the room learning for a significant amount of time showing a high competitiveness early on is becoming a rather large sample size. Being comfortable with the idea Barr is already a legitimate title threat is nothing more than experience reaffirming what your eyes and history are telling you.
Another side of beef and 5 more Lbs might help as well, granted it's very hard to gain during the season. I would like to hear he is 205+ walking around, some of the top 197s are monsters, I don't quite know how they maybe the cut. If not large, Barr is probably the quickest 197 out there and plenty skilled, which are equalizers, while still being pretty damned strong. He has AA written all over him right now, and with the usual first full competition season growth ahead of him. We are all foaming at the mouth in anticipation of what may be .
This is a mischaracterization. Pile said he can see Barr as top 4 but isn't ready to call him a national finalist yet.
I think Barr can be a finalist, but that opinion is fair on the evidence. FIVE returnees have placed 4th or higher at NCAA 197: Ford Focus, Buchanan, Cardenas, Munoz, and Elam. (OK, 4 after Ferrari implodes.)
To make the NCAA finals, he will need to beat at least 1 of them, and possibly 2 in a row. Can he? Yes. Has he proven that? He has never faced any of them in folk or free.
If Elam is back from injury, then Barr will face both him and Little on 12/21. That's a better test of Barr's potential placement than a single match against Beard.
Now I need to go shower in bleach after defending Pile.
You have to feel just a little yucky right about now.
Seeing our middleweights starting to use the bow and arrow made me chuckle a little. I see Barr starting to use some of the "room knowledge" to his benefit as well. To me, Barr has the IT look early his freshman year similar to Nolf. I hope it goes the same way for Josh.
Agree,…at least we’ve progressed beyond the point where Willie wasn’t even ranking Josh in his Crystal ball rankings, so that’s progress.
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i like Zach's enthusiasm, but he thinks the football team will take the NC.
Young guys often forget where the brake is..
Brake? No need for no stinkin brakes. Gas pedal to the floor.
The draw is perfect for it to happen. Doesn’t mean it will, but….
Sealey’s former club coach posted he could have started this year but decided to heal a lingering injury and is redshirting and taking the year off. Obviously that was just a confident coach talking as well.
Assuming it was 157 and he thought he could beat Kasak out. He wrestled 160 to 165 in HS but likely he wasn’t cutting.
Someone has to be the odd man out ultimately but none of these kids think it’s them.
Assuming it was 157 and he thought he could beat Kasak out. He wrestled 160 to 165 in HS but likely he wasn’t cutting.
Someone has to be the odd man out ultimately but none of these kids think it’s them.
Sealey definitely gets lost in the shuffle. Dynamite on his feet, surfer dude vibes. Deadly combo
Zach has already positioned both Luke and Connor Marisola as potential 4xers. He exhausts me, ... and Byers at times.
Heck, Conner might not even start next year ;-) ;-) ;-)
Does taking the year off mean not with the team at all or just no competition? I would’ve liked to see him vs Kasak. I’ve been a huge Sealey guy for years and it does seem like he’s being lost in the shuffle a bit but I wouldn’t have counted him from making the lineup this year. I hope he heals up and comes back ready to go next year
Geez he beat Beard… #6. Great start but he’s got the B1G. Let’s see how that goes first.
I’ve been thinking of a graceful way to say this for a while. Nicely done. I often get the impression during those podcasts that JB is thinking …
If you're Kasak why wouldn't you donate a "cow" to all your teamates around your weight class.
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As far as speculation goes I really hope
LL can hold 125 another year and Desmond redshirts. When we talk about who needs to take a year and who doesn’t, Desmond looks like he could use a year of fine tuning, this also puts a stronger lineup on the mat. Sometimes it’s tough to look at a lineup and see the two bookends having a lot less competition for their spots but I guess that’s why it pays to weigh 125 or 285 in college wrestling.
LL can hold 125 another year and Desmond redshirts. When we talk about who needs to take a year and who doesn’t, Desmond looks like he could use a year of fine tuning, this also puts a stronger lineup on the mat. Sometimes it’s tough to look at a lineup and see the two bookends having a lot less competition for their spots but I guess that’s why it pays to weigh 125 or 285 in college wrestling.
Maybe a bit premature.
Josh is incredible, but I want to see him against a larger bodied more elite 197. Beard is just a slight tier below that, and Barr passed with flying colors. He exceed my expectations there but the gameplan was executed flawlessly and the magic all happened in the 3rd period against a guy who is known to fade. Even the Marisola result was somewhat surprising in terms of margin of victory. Granted Connor is only a freshman in redshirt, but it's not like the pair aren't used to each others trucks
Any victory even a 1 pointer against Buchanan, Cardenas or Ferrari and I am with you. Elam maybe not as much, but the finals talk for Barr is better held off, probably until we get through Big 10s. The anticipation is palpable.
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Bordeaux called Stsrroci when he was a Fr. He (and I) are convinced that he is Top of the bracket potential.
He is definitely winning me over with every result, and I'm at the point where I will no longer be surprised at what he does, but I'm still mostly with Goggles. He's passed every test, but he still has several to pass before I say definitively that I think he will be in the finals this year. Remember, Cael will make him lose at least once somewhere, too, because he's petty about his undefeated record or something similarly stupid like that from the cesspool, right?
I'll say about Barr what I said about Carter at about this point of his freshman year:
I think he could win nationals this year, but don't yet know that he will.
But nobody will want him in their draw.
Barr's recap of his time at PSU the first year is almost identical to Carter. Came in hyped up (Barr admitted he was cocky after HS) got destroyed, took a while to even get one takedown.
And went undefeated in their RS year.
