Here is how you start to do it
Rivals.com @Rivals 15m15 minutes ago
Most 2016 #Rivals250 Commits - #B1G
OSU 7
PSU 6
MSU 4
UMD 2
UM 2
Minnesota 1
Nebraska 1
NU 1
UW 1
Is the B1G swallowing up Pitt?
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Here is how you start to do it
Rivals.com @Rivals 15m15 minutes ago
Most 2016 #Rivals250 Commits - #B1G
OSU 7
PSU 6
MSU 4
UMD 2
UM 2
Minnesota 1
Nebraska 1
NU 1
UW 1
OK? He transferred from Tennessee this year. Are you basing your entire confidence in Narduzzi because he landed a transfer over Northern Illinois and Illinois?
you said a lot of things....including the Rooney rule will be in play....implying he'll get an NFL gig due to a loophole, regardless of his inevitable inflated W-L record.....I'm sorry, did I infer?.......obviously, anyone can scroll and read what you said.
but now you're covering the reverse scenario. if he truly sucks...he'll get fired. wow...going out an limb. PSU will fire their 4mm/year coach in 5 years if he truly sucks? brilliant
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Meaning you know you're full of shit and there was nothing inflammatory in the original post.
Let me say what you really mean. You HOPE he won't be here in 5 years.
Cullen Christian was a former 4 star recruit that had plenty of impressive offers as well. He went to Michigan and ended up transferring back to Pittsburgh. How did that work out for Pitt? Was he the next revis?
I don't think you understand...Pitt football has never had a big recruiting presences in these areas...so what is the impact? In fact, these are your recruiting areas. Pitt has primarily been Western Pa. and Ohio States leftovers with a few players from anywhere sprinkled in. Now, does this hurt Pitt Basketball...sure.
He's arguing as an OSU fan now. I guess I should switch to being an Alabama fan and ask him how many MNC's Pitt has won in the last 5 years.
It's an unfortunate reality that transfers hardly ever seem to reach their earlier potential.
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Well, things can change between now and LOI but I would say it is better to be where PSU is one June 2nd than where Pitt is. I use the analogy of a 400M race. Sure, the person who has a nice lead at the 200M mark may not end up winning the race but I would rather be the one that has a nice lead at the halfway mark than the person who is lagging behind.
and how successful has Pitt been as of late. Do you think they can win strictly with western PA and Ohio State leftovers? How has that worked so far? Did you enjoy TJ Clemmings and do you enjoy Jaryd Jones Smith? K'Waun Williams? Dion Lewis? My guess is you won't get these types of players very often in the future.
There was a time when Nebraska going to the Big Ten made zero sense to everyone and a flagship 60 year member of the ACC leaving for a midwestern conference sounded insane. It's always an interesting discussion. I don't think UVA/UNC will be first dominoes to fall in any expansion wave to come but should the SEC raid FSU and Miami or Clemson, the ACC is done.
Dude, you haven't followed Cal football very closely, have you? (Not that I would have expected you to.)
Look, you keep stating opinion as facts. As I mentioned earlier, We haven't recruited much in this area accept when Hafley was here. Dion Lewis is a poor example on your part...because nobody recruited him other than Pitt. Regardless, you are entitled to your OPINION. However, Chryst's staff primarily recruited Western Pa. and westward. Yes, Jones-Smith was an exception. Narduzzi seems to be recruiting mostly Western Pa., Eastern Ohio and South. Southern recruiting is new territory for Pitt, so I am not surprised it is an uphill battle baring very little fruit.
The Big 12 can't stay at 10 teams much longer, and if the four (4) 16 team mega conference idea were to happen, either the Big 12 or the ACC will be picked clean. If the ACC is raided, it will be a game of musical chairs for all teams other than FSU, Clemson, UNC and UVA.
As much as Pitt fans want you to believe, I'm sorry but you cannot win with just WPIAL recruits. They are great this year and next, but lets say Pitt wins every battle this year and gets all the WPA recruits except Miles Sanders. So they land Hamlin, Hudson, Pugh, Mathews, Howard, Joe El-Shaw, Wheeler, and Brandon Ford. Based on Rivals Rankings, they will have landed the 4th, 8th, 10th, 12th, 17th, and 19th in the state of PA. It's a good group, but not unlike what Pitt has done in the WPIAL before. It has resulted in limited success. Pitt needs to do much better in other areas of the country. Thus far, this staff has shown the inability to do so.
If Pitt can "trick" a few kids into believing they can win big by keeping the WPIAL together, more power to them, but they are setting themselves up for disappointment. Kids should pick the school that gives themselves the best chance to succeed at a high level. Maybe that ends up being Pitt for them, but Dorian Johnson, Tyler Boyd, and Conner all thought the same and thus far the results are below average. If you're great, you will show yourself wherever you go!
If Pitt can "trick" a few kids into believing they can win big by keeping the WPIAL together, more power to them, but they are setting themselves up for disappointment. Kids should pick the school that gives themselves the best chance to succeed at a high level. Maybe that ends up being Pitt for them, but Dorian Johnson, Tyler Boyd, and Conner all thought the same and thus far the results are below average. If you're great, you will show yourself wherever you go!
Mauti, you are right. We can't win with just WPIAL recruits. This is why Pitt has expanded its recruiting budget. Our new Chancellor realizes Pitt either needs to step up or step out. Like I also said, it is going to take a little longer to bare fruit in New territories. However, I am hearing lots of good things locally are leaning Pitt's way. That is never a bad thing for Pitt.
Yep. Penn State had a few really bad years from 2000-2004 and they have recently been pretty terrible due to the sanctions. I've never argued that Penn State has been great. They are on their way back. I'm confident in that. It's embarrassing to hover around the same win total as Pitt for 3 years straight in spite of winning more games while sanctioned.
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So, above to take someone to task about bragging over an unsigned class, but here you get a woody over "hearing lots of good things locally" about players that have not even verballed. Do you read your own posts?
Yes, I do. And being excited is different then putting them out there as proof "We Are" better than you.
Well, the natives are getting restless because ESPN has been procrastinating on the ACC Network. You better hope that look-in in 2017 doesn't have an escape clause in it, because if it does, I know of at least two schools that are seriously thinking about bolting.
The grant of rights they signed after Maryland left will preclude anyone from leaving. Besides, we improved by adding Louisville. Nobody is going anywhere. Is this "the Dude" ?
So, it is ok for Pitt fans to get excited when they "hear good things" about certain HS kids yet PSU fans are fools if they get excited about kids that actually verballed to PSU. Thanks for the clarification.
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Our hypotheticals of assuming that we will have a better class this year based on verbals is far more grounded in reality than your hypotheticals of what a new AD and unproven HC will accomplish. You're probably correct in that the new AD will be an improvement over the old one, but replacing him with a turnip would also have been an improvement. But to date, it's accomplished 3 recruits that our lowest three would still rate better than. Our 3 stars had offers from schools that are not in the MAC. But, as I've said before, if you want to beat MAC teams, you have to out recruit MAC teams.
No..you are very welcome to be excited about commits. However, flaming we have a commit and that makes us better than you...is foolish. Especially when some are still taking visits and you are 8 months from signing them.
There are plenty of things that makes us better than you. The fact our recruiting has been whooping your ass is just 1 of them.
Guess nobody wants to go see all Pitt's talented recruits. Maybe if they'd win a few more games? Eh, doesn't matter. Look at all those Pitt guys in Canton.
Well, just looking at the 2015 team rankings, PSU finished 15th while Pitt finished 66th. I know Pitt has a new sheriff in town but he is off to a slow start. Compare that to how fast Franklin started out in his first full recruiting cycle at PSU and the difference is night and day.
This may be true, but huge exit fees were supposed to stop expansion before. Two lawyers may look at the grant of rights deal and determine two different things as to whether or not it would hold up in court should one member institution determine it wants to leave.
I'm not saying this happens next year or the year after, but with the SEC just launching it's network last year, it's not done growing.
Exactly, I have no idea what will happen in the future, but no team in the ACC would have backed itself into a corner without a TV deal in place. I'm sure there is an out clause of some sort or all the institutions are run poorly. Look at the money all these other conferences are getting with TV deals. The ACC still hasn't moved on one. That's going to be an issue soon.
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I guess I have to ask again then, what in the original post was inflammatory? I'm still waiting for an answer to that one.
Yes Franklin did a great job convincing all of those Vandy recruits how not to be a man of their word...lol.
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I do have kind of an off topic question for the Pitt troll. When was the last time that Pitt was #1 at anything?
Wrong recruiting class. It was the 2014 class where he had the Vandy kids follow him to PSU. In the few weeks between the time he accepted the PSU offer and LOI Day, he also got Saeed Blacknall to commit to PSU who wasn't even looking at PSU prior to Franklin coming onboard. Then, once the 2014 class was signed sealed and delivered, Franklin came out guns a blazing for the 2015 class.
