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PIAA still needs to work on the regional champ seeding formula -- Hidlay and Hong on the same side of AAA 160, only 2 undefeated wrestlers in the weight and only 2 nationally ranked.
 
mn78psu83 said:
Pardon my current ignorance of PA high school wrestling, but is DeSanto as heavily favored on his side of the 126 AAA bracket as Lee is on the other side?
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Maybe not quite as much, but any other finals matchup would be a massive shock. Actually, I'd be surprised if either is held to a regular decision before the finals.
 
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PIAA also screwed up AAA 220 -- if regional champs are ranked, Kennerly and Duggan should not be on the same side.

And just as egregious: AAA 285, Camacho and Furman on the same side. I'd like to think they made Wolfgram the 1 because he's undefeated, but he only has 1 other regional champ on his side (1-4-5 on one side, 2-3 on the other, right?).

So once again PIAA is blowing smoke out its rear.
 
Joey Blumer's draw:
- Round 1: SC2 Cal Reichart, Cumberland Valley SR, 32-7. Should win this.
- Quarters: NW1 Brock Port, Bellefonte SR, 36-0. This will be a challenge.
- Semis: probably SE1 Riley Palmer, Council Rock South SR, 28-6. Another challenge.
- Finals: most likely SW1 Jarod Verkleeren, Hempfield SR, 21-1. Lost to Verk in SW Regionals.

Realistically I see him in the 3rd to 5th range, depending on exactly how the consis shape up. The toughest guys in consis will be Port or Palmer, plus the loser between Verkleeren vs. NE1 Brock Wilson, Nazareth SR, 37-6 (returning state finalist).
 
El-Jefe said:
PIAA also screwed up AAA 220 -- if regional champs are ranked, Kennerly and Duggan should not be on the same side.

And just as egregious: AAA 285, Camacho and Furman on the same side. I'd like to think they made Wolfgram the 1 because he's undefeated, but he only has 1 other regional champ on his side (1-4-5 on one side, 2-3 on the other, right?).

So once again PIAA is blowing smoke out its rear.
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I saw some of the NE regionals. The kid that wrestled Camacho , Peluci from LaSalle will not be an easy out for anyone. He is short and round but moves great. He tried to shoot late in bout and Camacho countered with his weight.
I mentioned this before, try to watch the Labriola finals bout.I can't find the video to post. He threw the kid around like a rag doll. Twice he slammed the kid in the 1st period. It was brutal.
 
Wow -- another massive regional champ ranking screwup: AA 152, Edmond Ruth (36-0) and Robbie Patrick (35-1) on the same side.
 
AA 195 -- Gavin Hoffman got a complete pass thru to the finals. He might not spend 6:00 total on the mat before the finals. I don't think the brackets are wrong -- just could not have asked for a better path. Finals vs. Walters should be a decent matchup.
 
El-Jefe said:
Wow -- another massive regional champ ranking screwup: AA 152, Edmond Ruth (36-0) and Robbie Patrick (35-1) on the same side.
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Is it possible that they did this strictly by how the brackets are arranged and could "step back" and re-evaluate the matchups or potential matchups? Then make changes?
 
Diego Badman said:
Is it possible that they did this strictly by how the brackets are arranged and could "step back" and re-evaluate the matchups or potential matchups? Then make changes?
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Believe it or not, that's what they did to get to the Ruth-Patrick semi.

PA-Wrestling earlier posted the unofficial pre-brackets. Ruth and Patrick were on opposite sides. Somehow it got "corrected" to this. (Unfortunately it's the same link, so the unofficials were overriden with the officials, but PA-Wrestling did note which brackets were changed, AA 152 was among them.)

No AAA brackets were revised. AA 106, 133, 152, and 182 were changed.
 
I believe the brackets were changed because the wrong seeding criteria was used. PIAA had 2016 seeding points posted initially instead of 2017. They do not change to get better matchups. The regional champs are seeded according to published criteria and then the bracket filled in.

The published criteria is easy. Criteria 1 + Criteria 2 = seeding points. Criteria 1 is PIAA postseason finish LAST YEAR. You get 100 points as a state champ, 95 as state 2nd, down to 40 points for being a regional 4th. Criteria 2 is winning percentage. 100 points for being undefeated, 90 points for being 36-4, etc.

Hong did not wrestle in the PIAA last season so he gets 0 points for criteria 1. Callahan finished 4th in the state last year, so he has more seeding points than Duggan (finished 7th) and Kennerly (DNP). 220 is seeded the way it should be. Furman did not place at regions last year = 0 points for criteria 1. Camacho and Deboe placed - they are seeded 1 and 2. Wolfgram is undefeated, Furman is not. Wolfgram gets the 3, Furman the 4.

This is far superior to what has transpired in the past. You get what you earn. You may think Duggan or Kennerly is better than Callahan, or Furman is better than Wolfgram - but they didn't earn it on the mat last year. Having PIAA officials subjectively seed the tournament would be a complete cluster.
 
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dicemen99 said:
I believe the brackets were changed because the wrong seeding criteria was used. PIAA had 2016 seeding points posted initially instead of 2017. They do not change to get better matchups. The regional champs are seeded according to published criteria and then the bracket filled in.

The published criteria is easy. Criteria 1 + Criteria 2 = seeding points. Criteria 1 is PIAA postseason finish LAST YEAR. You get 100 points as a state champ, 95 as state 2nd, down to 40 points for being a regional 4th. Criteria 2 is winning percentage. 100 points for being undefeated, 90 points for being 36-4, etc.

Hong did not wrestle in the PIAA last season so he gets 0 points for criteria 1. Callahan finished 4th in the state last year, so he has more seeding points than Duggan (finished 7th) and Kennerly (DNP). 220 is seeded the way it should be. Furman did not place at regions last year = 0 points for criteria 1. Camacho and Deboe placed - they are seeded 1 and 2. Wolfgram is undefeated, Furman is not. Wolfgram gets the 3, Furman the 4.

This is far superior to what has transpired in the past. You get what you earn. You may think Duggan or Kennerly is better than Callahan, or Furman is better than Wolfgram - but they didn't earn it on the mat last year. Having PIAA officials subjectively seed the tournament would be a complete cluster.
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I agree with this being better than last year, and better than subjectivity. And I guess these brackets fit those criteria (though I'm not so sure about Ruth and Patrick without doing research).

I disagree that this is the best process, or even the best available process. Last year's results are overemphasized at 50% of the total. And there should also be a component for wins against good competition. Max Murin should get more credit for beating Brian Courtney than for squashing some JV backup.

Also, I'm unclear about the winning % criterion -- is that for PIAA matches only? Example: Camacho's only 3 losses are to Janney and Chakonis -- otherwise he's unbeaten. If he loses % points for losing to them, then he should get competition points for beating Janney and others at Ironman and Beast.

BTW, we did this 25+ years ago for districts and regionals for every wrestler, not just the top 4 or 5 guys, and on paper without Excel. So it's quite feasible.

I know you're just explaining. My beef is with PIAA. Eventually they'll modernize to processes that were available in the back half of the last century, however grudgingly.
 
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Interested to see how Cole Rhone does at 120 AA. He hasn't lost to anyone not a SEM or heading to Iowa all year. Path looks much clearer at 120. Haven't heard much buzz from him, Imagine he'll follow family ties to Lehigh
 
Rhino80 said:
Interested to see how Cole Rhone does at 120 AA. He hasn't lost to anyone not a SEM or heading to Iowa all year. Path looks much clearer at 120. Haven't heard much buzz from him, Imagine he'll follow family ties to Lehigh
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Rhone was ranked #1 by Off the Mat last week. I saw his regional finals 4-3 win over Pasone and thought he's a real good HS wrestler, but not unbeatable, and not somebody who's gonna bonus his way thru Hershey. Also gut feel afterward that Rhone would likely widen the gap in a rematch, though it would still be fairly close.

I'd probably pick him to win states, though Brookville's Park will be a very strong test in the finals (same for Pasone if he beats Park). Reynolds' Ischo could pose problems in the semis -- a guy Rhone should beat, but has a different style that might throw off an unfamiliar opponent.
 
El-Jefe said:
Believe it or not, that's what they did to get to the Ruth-Patrick semi.

PA-Wrestling earlier posted the unofficial pre-brackets. Ruth and Patrick were on opposite sides. Somehow it got "corrected" to this. (Unfortunately it's the same link, so the unofficials were overriden with the officials, but PA-Wrestling did note which brackets were changed, AA 152 was among them.)

No AAA brackets were revised. AA 106, 133, 152, and 182 were changed.
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The PIAA just updated the bracket and put Ruth and Patrick on opposite sides.
 
El-Jefe said:
I agree with this being better than last year, and better than subjectivity. And I guess these brackets fit those criteria (though I'm not so sure about Ruth and Patrick without doing research).

I disagree that this is the best process, or even the best available process. Last year's results are overemphasized at 50% of the total. And there should also be a component for wins against good competition. Max Murin should get more credit for beating Brian Courtney than for squashing some JV backup.

Also, I'm unclear about the winning % criterion -- is that for PIAA matches only? Example: Camacho's only 3 losses are to Janney and Chakonis -- otherwise he's unbeaten. If he loses % points for losing to them, then he should get competition points for beating Janney and others at Ironman and Beast.

BTW, we did this 25+ years ago for districts and regionals for every wrestler, not just the top 4 or 5 guys, and on paper without Excel. So it's quite feasible.

I know you're just explaining. My beef is with PIAA. Eventually they'll modernize to processes that were available in the back half of the last century, however grudgingly.
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It's obvious , the PIAA needs to have El Jefe do the seeding
 
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Joey Blumer's draw:
- Round 1: SC2 Cal Reichart, Cumberland Valley SR, 32-7. Should win this.
- Quarters: NW1 Brock Port, Bellefonte SR, 36-0. This will be a challenge.
- Semis: probably SE1 Riley Palmer, Council Rock South SR, 28-6. Another challenge.
- Finals: most likely SW1 Jarod Verkleeren, Hempfield SR, 21-1. Lost to Verk in SW Regionals.

Realistically I see him in the 3rd to 5th range, depending on exactly how the consis shape up. The toughest guys in consis will be Port or Palmer, plus the loser between Verkleeren vs. NE1 Brock Wilson, Nazareth SR, 37-6 (returning state finalist).
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If he wrestles a great tournament, I think he could make the finals. He's beaten Palmer this year. Hinkson could also make the semi instead of Palmer and Blumer split with him this year. Blumer beat him in regional finals. Port will be the one he has to get by. 2nd - 5th sounds right
 
In NE regionals Festermacher at 132 won OW in a wild match against Hoffman from Hazelton. A couple of seconds left in bout and ref calls 3rd start violation against him to tie match. Festermacher throws fit ,lucky ref didn't nail him for unsportsmanlike point. Goes into overtime and pins kid from neutral. Looked very similar to Gulibon match against Heil.
 
davidtaylorgangordie said:
If he wrestles a great tournament, I think he could make the finals. He's beaten Palmer this year. Hinkson could also make the semi instead of Palmer and Blumer split with him this year. Blumer beat him in regional finals. Port will be the one he has to get by. 2nd - 5th sounds right
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I was talking with long-time Kiski coach Chuck Tursky at the WPIAL finals on Saturday, and he said this was the first time that Blumer beat Hinkson. Hinkson beat him in the Eastern Area Tournament finals 3-2 in December 2015, and in a consolation match at the 2016 Powerade 5-2 TB2. Always close matches.

I will be cheering for Hinkson in this one, as Jake lives 2 houses from me.

Will be leaving Pittsburgh about 5:30am Thursday for the tournament, will miss the beginning of the AA pigtails.
 
davidtaylorgangordie said:
If he wrestles a great tournament, I think he could make the finals. He's beaten Palmer this year. Hinkson could also make the semi instead of Palmer and Blumer split with him this year. Blumer beat him in regional finals. Port will be the one he has to get by. 2nd - 5th sounds right
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Agreed. Verk is the only one who seems too much. Port and Wilson are challenges but not Ft Knox. We'll see in a couple days.
 
Callthestall said:
In NE regionals Festermacher at 132 won OW in a wild match against Hoffman from Hazelton. A couple of seconds left in bout and ref calls 3rd start violation against him to tie match. Festermacher throws fit ,lucky ref didn't nail him for unsportsmanlike point. Goes into overtime and pins kid from neutral. Looked very similar to Gulibon match against Heil.
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It's even wilder yet -- neutral pin was with 0.2 sec left in SV period.
 
El-Jefe said:
It's even wilder yet -- neutral pin was with 0.2 sec left in SV period.
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Just think the kids father doesn't even get to watch . He's not allowed in gym for his behavior. 2 year's in a row he has been banned. I wonder if he's allowed at Hershey.
 
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Just think the kids father doesn't even get to watch . He's not allowed in gym for his behavior. 2 year's in a row he has been banned. I wonder if he's allowed at Hershey.
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D11 has its own PD2?

I hope you realize how hard it is for me to refrain from making a Pitt joke right now. Thanks a lot.
 
This year’s predictions 100% guaranteed to be wrong …

But first a few comments: (1) I have not followed as closely this year as I have in the past; (2) I know the least about 106, because of the volume of freshmen; (3) I know the least about the far NW corner of the state; (4) I will pick however deep in each weight – might be 1, might be 5, will vary; (5) I will try to pick one possible spoiler, does not mean he will knock off the champ, just someone capable of creating at least localized chaos …

(6) Have also ranked the champs by my confidence in the picks.

(7) 60+ D1 commits are competing in Hershey this weekend, plus a surprising number of quality uncommitted seniors, plus the usual boatload of underclass talent. Welcome to Hershey. Even the “unspectacular” weights are mere bloodbaths.

(8) Not a lot of detail or reasons below, but will be happy to answer any questions -- though maybe not a whole lot during work!

AA:
106 – 1 Beau Bayless, Reynolds; 2 Nate Smith, Bishop McDevitt; 3 Kaden Cassidy, Bishop McCort (spoiler: Elijah Bundro, Wilson)
113 – 1 Jaret Lane, Southern Columbia; 2 Chase Shields, Bishop McDevitt (spoiler: Wyatt Lutz, Montoursville)
120 – 1 Cole Rhone, Benton; 2 Gavin Park, Brookville; 3 Josh Jones, Saucon Valley; 4 Colin Pasone, W-B Meyers (spoilers: Bronson Garber, Upper Dauphin; Andrew Ischo, Reynolds)
126 – 1 Gavin Teasdale, Jefferson Morgan; 2 Austin Clabaugh, Bermudian Springs; 3 Kollin Myers, Boiling Springs; 4 Brian Earlston, Line Mountain (spoiler: couldn’t think of any)
132 – 1 Brian Courtney, Athens; 2 Gabe Miller, Pequea Valley; 3 Carnell Andrews, Bishop McCort (spoiler: Tanner McHugh, Tamaqua)
138 – 1 Cole Matthews, Reynolds; 2 Max Murin, Central Cambria; 3 Sammy Hepler, Tri Valley (spoiler: none)
145 – 1 Justin McCoy, Chestnut Ridge; 2 John Pipa, Bishop McDevitt; 3 Todd Lane, Southern Columbia; 4 Kody Komara, Freedom; 5 Dallas Bulsak, South Park (spoiler: Nathan Haubert, Palisades)
152 – 1 Edmond Ruth, Susquehanna Twp; 2 Robbie Patrick, Ligonier Valley; 3 Kaidon Winters, Athens; 4 Caleb Clymer, NW Lehigh; 6 Caleb Hetrick, Brookville (spoiler: Chase Anklam, Pen Argyl)
160 – 1 Ryan Farber, Northern Lehigh; 2 Larry Brown, Moshannon Valley; 3 Morgan Deremer, Chestnut Ridge; 4 Creighton Edsell, Wyalusing (spoiler: Seth Baney, Huntingdon)
170 – 1 Jacob Oliver, Huntingdon; 2 Dalton Group, Susquenita; 3 Jared McGill, Chestnut Ridge; 4 Gaige Garcia, Southern Columbia; 5 Joel Leise, Reynolds (spoiler: none)
182 – 1 Cody Mulligan, Saegertown; 2 Luke Funck, Northern Lebanon; 3 Dominic Fundy, Beth Center; 4 Jared Mooney, Palmerton (spoiler: Julian Gorring, Ft. LeBoeuf)
195 – 1 Gavin Hoffman, Montoursville; 2 Anthony Walters, Bishop McCort; 3 Clay Verbanac, Cambridge Springs (spoiler: Exree Loe, Johnstown)
220 – 1 Cole Nye, Bishop McDevitt; 2 Blake Reynolds, Greenville; 3 Josiah Jones, Bishop McCort; 4 Devin Fontanez, Saucon Valley (spoiler: Tyler Cook, Brookville)
285 – 1 Dan Scheib, Tri Valley; 2 Toby Cahill, Berlin; 3 Garrett Kieffer, Line Mountain (spoiler: Nick Winfield, Southern Huntingdon)

Best final: 138 Matthews vs. Murin
Best weight: 182
OW: 138 champ

Confidence:
1 – 126 Teasdale
2 – 132 Courtney
3 – 195 Hoffman
4 – 113 Lane
5 – 170 Oliver (dropoff after here)
6 – 160 Farber
7 – 106 Bayless
8 – 145 McCoy
9 – 120 Rhone
10 – 152 Ruth
11 – 182 Mulligan
12 – 285 Scheib
13 – 220 Nye
14 – 138 Matthews

AAA:
106 – 1 Andrew Cerniglia, Nazareth; 2 Will Betancourt, Manheim Central (spoiler: I don’t know enough)
113 – 1 Sam Hillegas, North Hills; 2 Sean Pierson, Nazareth; 3 Ed Scott, DuBois; 4 Matt Wilde, Boyertown (spoiler: Geo Barzona, Central Mountain)
120 – 1 Julian Chlebove, Northampton; 2 Matt Parker, Pennridge; 3 Zurich Storm, New Oxford; 4 Logan Macri, Canon McMillan (spoiler: Luke Werner, Bethlehem Liberty)
126 – 1 Spencer Lee, Franklin Regional; 2 Austin DeSanto, Exeter; 3 Ryan Anderson, Beca; 4 Jakob Campbell, Boyertown (spoiler: Patrick Gould, East Stroudsburg South)
132 – 1 Cole Manley, Altoona; 2 Zack Trampe, Council Rock South; 3 Jimmy Hoffman, Hazleton; 4 Wyatt Long, Cumberland Valley; 5 KJ Fenstermacher, Northampton (spoiler: Andrew Wert, Central Dauphin)
138 – 1 Sammy Sasso, Nazareth; 2 Colin Cronin, Upper Darby; 3 Dan Moran, Northampton; 4 Luke Kemerer, Hempfield; 5 Seth Koleno, BEA (spoiler: none)
145 – 1 Jarod Verkleeren, Hempfield; 2 Brock Port, Bellefonte; 3 Brock Wilson, Nazareth; 4 Joe Blumer, Kiski (PSU commit); 5 Riley Palmer, Council Rock South (spoiler: Jake Hinkson, North Allegheny)
152 – 1 Cam Coy, Penn Trafford; 2 Carter Starocci, Erie Prep; 3 Gerrit Nijenhuis, Canon McMillan; 4 Chase Stephens, Coatesville (spoiler: Will Kaldes, Cumberland Valley)
160 – 1 Eric Hong, North Allegheny; 2 Joshua Stillings, Pennridge; 3 Trent Hidlay, Mifflin County; Zach Hartman, Belle Vernon (spoiler: none)
170 – 1 Mike Labriola, Beca; 2 Luke McGonigal, Clearfield; 3 Tim Wallace, Albert Gallatin (spoiler: none)
182 – 1 Travis Stefanik, Nazareth; 2 Nino Bonaccorsi, Bethel Park; 3 Cole Urbas, State College; 4 Drew Peck, Chambersburg (spoiler: none)
195 – 1 Jake Woodley, North Allegheny; 2 Colin McCracken, Waynesburg; 3 Miles Lee, South Philly; 4 Ethan Laird, General McLane (spoiler: Eli Grape, Upper St Clair)
220 – 1 Brian Kennerly, Upper Darby; 2 Joe Doyle, Council Rock South; 3 Francis Duggan, Cedar Cliff (spoiler: Jesse Enck, Daniel Boone)
285 – 1 Niko Camacho, Beca; 2 Isaac Reid, Kiski; 3 Brendan Furman, Canon McMillan; 4 Kawaun Deboe, Erie Prep (spoiler: Vincenzo Pelusi, Lasalle)

PSU notes: Joe Blumer, Kiski 145 – committed. Brandon Meredith, Spring Ford 113 – grandson of Bud. Luke Stout, Mt Lebanon 152 – brother of Kellan.

Best final: 182 Stefanik vs. Bonaccorsi
Best weights: 132, 120, 182, 160, 220, 285 (sorry, impossible to pick 1!)
OW: Lee

Confidence:
1 – 126 Lee
2 – 170 Labriola
3 – 152 Coy
4 – 138 Sasso
5 – 145 Verkleeren
6 – 195 Woodley
7 – 113 Hillegas (step-down after here)
8 – 106 Cerniglia
9 – 120 Chlebove
10 – 220 Kennerly
11 – 160 Hong
12 – 285 Camacho
13 – 182 Stefanik
14 – 132 Manley
 
I like that you have Luke at 170 (AAA) in the finals but that might be a tall order. He dropped down to 170 for the tournament this year. Went through districts and regionals without trouble. (I guess this means I would say States... much to CPs demise).
 
I should've added another comment: did not review consi brackets. If my 3 and 4 meet in an earlier consider round ... caveat emptor.
 
a_mshaffer said:
I like that you have Luke at 170 (AAA) in the finals but that might be a tall order. He dropped down to 170 for the tournament this year. Went through districts and regionals without trouble. (I guess this means I would say States... much to CPs demise).
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I'll admit to not a ton of confidence there. Finn, Wallace, and Moisey are all good. Might have picked Wallace but wasn't convinced he gets past Moisey in Round 1.
 
El-Jefe said:
This year’s predictions 100% guaranteed to be wrong …

But first a few comments: (1) I have not followed as closely this year as I have in the past; (2) I know the least about 106, because of the volume of freshmen; (3) I know the least about the far NW corner of the state; (4) I will pick however deep in each weight – might be 1, might be 5, will vary; (5) I will try to pick one possible spoiler, does not mean he will knock off the champ, just someone capable of creating at least localized chaos …

(6) Have also ranked the champs by my confidence in the picks.

(7) 60+ D1 commits are competing in Hershey this weekend, plus a surprising number of quality uncommitted seniors, plus the usual boatload of underclass talent. Welcome to Hershey. Even the “unspectacular” weights are mere bloodbaths.

(8) Not a lot of detail or reasons below, but will be happy to answer any questions -- though maybe not a whole lot during work!

AA:
106 – 1 Beau Bayless, Reynolds; 2 Nate Smith, Bishop McDevitt; 3 Kaden Cassidy, Bishop McCort (spoiler: Elijah Bundro, Wilson)
113 – 1 Jaret Lane, Southern Columbia; 2 Chase Shields, Bishop McDevitt (spoiler: Wyatt Lutz, Montoursville)
120 – 1 Cole Rhone, Benton; 2 Gavin Park, Brookville; 3 Josh Jones, Saucon Valley; 4 Colin Pasone, W-B Meyers (spoilers: Bronson Garber, Upper Dauphin; Andrew Ischo, Reynolds)
126 – 1 Gavin Teasdale, Jefferson Morgan; 2 Austin Clabaugh, Bermudian Springs; 3 Kollin Myers, Boiling Springs; 4 Brian Earlston, Line Mountain (spoiler: couldn’t think of any)
132 – 1 Brian Courtney, Athens; 2 Gabe Miller, Pequea Valley; 3 Carnell Andrews, Bishop McCort (spoiler: Tanner McHugh, Tamaqua)
138 – 1 Cole Matthews, Reynolds; 2 Max Murin, Central Cambria; 3 Sammy Hepler, Tri Valley (spoiler: none)
145 – 1 Justin McCoy, Chestnut Ridge; 2 John Pipa, Bishop McDevitt; 3 Todd Lane, Southern Columbia; 4 Kody Komara, Freedom; 5 Dallas Bulsak, South Park (spoiler: Nathan Haubert, Palisades)
152 – 1 Edmond Ruth, Susquehanna Twp; 2 Robbie Patrick, Ligonier Valley; 3 Kaidon Winters, Athens; 4 Caleb Clymer, NW Lehigh; 6 Caleb Hetrick, Brookville (spoiler: Chase Anklam, Pen Argyl)
160 – 1 Ryan Farber, Northern Lehigh; 2 Larry Brown, Moshannon Valley; 3 Morgan Deremer, Chestnut Ridge; 4 Creighton Edsell, Wyalusing (spoiler: Seth Baney, Huntingdon)
170 – 1 Jacob Oliver, Huntingdon; 2 Dalton Group, Susquenita; 3 Jared McGill, Chestnut Ridge; 4 Gaige Garcia, Southern Columbia; 5 Joel Leise, Reynolds (spoiler: none)
182 – 1 Cody Mulligan, Saegertown; 2 Luke Funck, Northern Lebanon; 3 Dominic Fundy, Beth Center; 4 Jared Mooney, Palmerton (spoiler: Julian Gorring, Ft. LeBoeuf)
195 – 1 Gavin Hoffman, Montoursville; 2 Anthony Walters, Bishop McCort; 3 Clay Verbanac, Cambridge Springs (spoiler: Exree Loe, Johnstown)
220 – 1 Cole Nye, Bishop McDevitt; 2 Blake Reynolds, Greenville; 3 Josiah Jones, Bishop McCort; 4 Devin Fontanez, Saucon Valley (spoiler: Tyler Cook, Brookville)
285 – 1 Dan Scheib, Tri Valley; 2 Toby Cahill, Berlin; 3 Garrett Kieffer, Line Mountain (spoiler: Nick Winfield, Southern Huntingdon)

Best final: 138 Matthews vs. Murin
Best weight: 182
OW: 138 champ

Confidence:
1 – 126 Teasdale
2 – 132 Courtney
3 – 195 Hoffman
4 – 113 Lane
5 – 170 Oliver (dropoff after here)
6 – 160 Farber
7 – 106 Bayless
8 – 145 McCoy
9 – 120 Rhone
10 – 152 Ruth
11 – 182 Mulligan
12 – 285 Scheib
13 – 220 Nye
14 – 138 Matthews

AAA:
106 – 1 Andrew Cerniglia, Nazareth; 2 Will Betancourt, Manheim Central (spoiler: I don’t know enough)
113 – 1 Sam Hillegas, North Hills; 2 Sean Pierson, Nazareth; 3 Ed Scott, DuBois; 4 Matt Wilde, Boyertown (spoiler: Geo Barzona, Central Mountain)
120 – 1 Julian Chlebove, Northampton; 2 Matt Parker, Pennridge; 3 Zurich Storm, New Oxford; 4 Logan Macri, Canon McMillan (spoiler: Luke Werner, Bethlehem Liberty)
126 – 1 Spencer Lee, Franklin Regional; 2 Austin DeSanto, Exeter; 3 Ryan Anderson, Beca; 4 Jakob Campbell, Boyertown (spoiler: Patrick Gould, East Stroudsburg South)
132 – 1 Cole Manley, Altoona; 2 Zack Trampe, Council Rock South; 3 Jimmy Hoffman, Hazleton; 4 Wyatt Long, Cumberland Valley; 5 KJ Fenstermacher, Northampton (spoiler: Andrew Wert, Central Dauphin)
138 – 1 Sammy Sasso, Nazareth; 2 Colin Cronin, Upper Darby; 3 Dan Moran, Northampton; 4 Luke Kemerer, Hempfield; 5 Seth Koleno, BEA (spoiler: none)
145 – 1 Jarod Verkleeren, Hempfield; 2 Brock Port, Bellefonte; 3 Brock Wilson, Nazareth; 4 Joe Blumer, Kiski (PSU commit); 5 Riley Palmer, Council Rock South (spoiler: Jake Hinkson, North Allegheny)
152 – 1 Cam Coy, Penn Trafford; 2 Carter Starocci, Erie Prep; 3 Gerrit Nijenhuis, Canon McMillan; 4 Chase Stephens, Coatesville (spoiler: Will Kaldes, Cumberland Valley)
160 – 1 Eric Hong, North Allegheny; 2 Joshua Stillings, Pennridge; 3 Trent Hidlay, Mifflin County; Zach Hartman, Belle Vernon (spoiler: none)
170 – 1 Mike Labriola, Beca; 2 Luke McGonigal, Clearfield; 3 Tim Wallace, Albert Gallatin (spoiler: none)
182 – 1 Travis Stefanik, Nazareth; 2 Nino Bonaccorsi, Bethel Park; 3 Cole Urbas, State College; 4 Drew Peck, Chambersburg (spoiler: none)
195 – 1 Jake Woodley, North Allegheny; 2 Colin McCracken, Waynesburg; 3 Miles Lee, South Philly; 4 Ethan Laird, General McLane (spoiler: Eli Grape, Upper St Clair)
220 – 1 Brian Kennerly, Upper Darby; 2 Joe Doyle, Council Rock South; 3 Francis Duggan, Cedar Cliff (spoiler: Jesse Enck, Daniel Boone)
285 – 1 Niko Camacho, Beca; 2 Isaac Reid, Kiski; 3 Brendan Furman, Canon McMillan; 4 Kawaun Deboe, Erie Prep (spoiler: Vincenzo Pelusi, Lasalle)

PSU notes: Joe Blumer, Kiski 145 – committed. Brandon Meredith, Spring Ford 113 – grandson of Bud. Luke Stout, Mt Lebanon 152 – brother of Kellan.

Best final: 182 Stefanik vs. Bonaccorsi
Best weights: 132, 120, 182, 160, 220, 285 (sorry, impossible to pick 1!)
OW: Lee

Confidence:
1 – 126 Lee
2 – 170 Labriola
3 – 152 Coy
4 – 138 Sasso
5 – 145 Verkleeren
6 – 195 Woodley
7 – 113 Hillegas (step-down after here)
8 – 106 Cerniglia
9 – 120 Chlebove
10 – 220 Kennerly
11 – 160 Hong
12 – 285 Camacho
13 – 182 Stefanik
14 – 132 Manley
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It took me almost two days poring over brackets to come up with predictions that look a lot like the ones up there. Maybe a little difference in the order, but El Jefe and I have probably 95% of the same kids up there.

I must be doing something wrong if El Jefe can whip that up this quick. ;)
 
dicemen99 said:
It took me almost two days poring over brackets to come up with predictions that look a lot like the ones up there. Maybe a little difference in the order, but El Jefe and I have probably 95% of the same kids up there.

I must be doing something wrong if El Jefe can whip that up this quick. ;)
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It probably is because I'm stuck in a multiple-day company business practices assessment.

Some might consider that doing something wrong.
 
Hong lost in Round 1 too. So much for that pick.

Like I said, picks 100% guaranteed to be wrong.
 
Did the PIAA seed 1 through 4? I can't find a bracket that reflects the actual seed of the 1 through 4 wrestlers. i.e., a bracket that has a "1" or a "2" next to a wrestler.
 
21Guns said:
Did the PIAA seed 1 through 4? I can't find a bracket that reflects the actual seed of the 1 through 4 wrestlers. i.e., a bracket that has a "1" or a "2" next to a wrestler.
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Yes, they did rank the regional champs. Rankings not listed on the brackets, but usually not too difficult to figure out.

It's extremely easy to ID in AAA -- there are 5 regional champs. So, any time 2 regional champs meet in the quarters, they're the 4 and 5, and the winner gets the 1 in the semis. The regional champs in the other half will be the 2 and 3.

Also, without going back to look: I think the #1 seed is the first guy at the top of every bracket. Could be wrong about that, but after a while it sure looked like a pattern.
 
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