But you were correct. It was ugly after that and he didn’t get out of the first period. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Wrestling: Penn State vs. Iowa Match Thread
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All the more reason for you to enjoy this year and the rare 2nd place finish.
You're only replaceable with the other you. And the other you after that. Etc.
Agreed. Except for the part about enjoying the beauty of the battle during each match. I'm good after it's over, but I get too nervous during close bouts knowing the simplest of miscalculations, mistakes, or even flukes can flip the outcome at this level of wrestling. That's one of the reasons these PSU/Iowa duals are so stressful for me to watch in real time. Each side comes to battle, brings their hammers, and believes they can win.
As for fanbase preferences and predictions of bonus point wins/etc, I'm reminded of the quote attributed to Mike Tyson: “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” As enthusiastic fans, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that our guy's opponent has a say in how the battle unfolds.
Carter may have been right. Bo did a few things that coaches would say to never do.
Of course, Carter may have said those things just to annoy Askren.
Therein lies the example. You justify yourself by pointing to others. I justify myself by holding myself to a standard regardless of how others act. My role is to not check the masses but felt the need as you continually beat your chest, ridiculed others and justified your behavior by negative behaviors of the minority of fans. I recognize every fanbase has those that I wish not to associate with however would never judge the fanbase based on those few.
Who said we were finishing second? I will believe it when I see it.
After last night I think the likelihood the Hawks finish second this year is greater than I originally thought. A champ and anywhere from 5 to 7 (great tournament) AAs. This could be the year you guys are finally good enough to be Penn State's runner-up.
(I was making a poop joke)
And I was just taking advantage of an opportunity to run salt into wounds. I appreciate your help.
BB is not offense minded… never will be. Not sure why. Will still AA. SVN, Levi, and Facundo are tFr/rFR…. Still learning and still compete. Will AA in 2023 and compete for title next year.
Kerk was him self last night. He wasn’t vs. Paris. He’ll beat Paris this year. He is still the top heavy.
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Great stats. Would love to see RBY, CStar, Brooks, Dean, and Kerk…
I don’t disagree with your general POV but don’t mind good natured ribbing. The banter from @jmadden1998 and our other regular Hawkeye guests in this thread is fairly tame by comparison to some of the crap flung their way over the past week by a few folks here.
Besides, when you’re an Iowa fan you’ve got to take whatever small quasi-victories you can get these days, bless their hearts.
i wouldn't go that far. parris was wrestling with a significant injury all last season. he had a notable downturn in his results against all past opponents, not just kerk. i still like kerk, but parris is gonna be a dog fight all year.
I’m inclined to agree with @js8793 here.
Cassioppi is more in line with a Cohlton Schultz type heavy. Can move when need be, but seems most at home handfighting and sticking to a more traditional heavy style.
By contrast, Kerk and Parris are what we starting to see more of in the weight class: athletic big men who can move well and wrestle more similar to a 197 than a full size heavy.
The contrast of styles can create some real power struggles as evidenced by the parody in the weight class (Steveson aside) this year and last
Cassioppi is more in line with a Cohlton Schultz type heavy. Can move when need be, but seems most at home handfighting and sticking to a more traditional heavy style.
By contrast, Kerk and Parris are what we starting to see more of in the weight class: athletic big men who can move well and wrestle more similar to a 197 than a full size heavy.
The contrast of styles can create some real power struggles as evidenced by the parody in the weight class (Steveson aside) this year and last
We all get the strategy, but let’s be honest. It was a pretty dull match to watch in the big scheme of things
I spent most the night sitting forward in my seat fairly oblivious to all the peripheral stuff. At no time, while there was wrestling on the mat did I feel bored.
I get it would be cool to watch Bo and Sammy Brooks wrestle every match, but that ain't happening.
As I said, the simplicity of watching 2 groups of tremendously trained, conditioned and strong willed athletes just grind on each other at such a high level of intensity for me was a fun match.
There is no way you saw the beginning of 125 and the end of 133 coming. What a great way to start the match. Every match going forward except 184 had doubt, moments, groans and cheers. Even 174 had some doubt and moments.
My thoughts on the match.
125 - good effort not getting decked and coming out firing.
133 - great finish, lots of hand fighting to stall by Iowa just as in the 174 match. There is a difference when you hand fight to create angles and scoring opportunities and when you slap and hand fight just to circle and stall. It’s no different than riding the ankle which I also do not like.
141 - Beau is athletic as hell but still struggles from bottom against top tier competitors which to me points to his size being an issue. I like him at 133 next year and welcome all criticism against this. When I watched he and David Evans wrestle early this year and Evans gave him all he could handle, my gut tells me he’s still too small for the weight. Obviously he’s still a great wrestler. Credit to Woods who looked pretty good to me.
149 - Too much hand fighting from our guy and not creating enough scoring opportunities which is easier said than done. I thought Murin looked pretty good compared to some recent matches against tough opponents. Credit to him.
157 - Great match and great scrap. I loved both of these wrestlers effort. They are young and they both fought hard. Both are going to have good careers but Haines was clearly the better wrestler. His ability to shoot to the far leg is as good as anyone I’ve seen. High ceiling for this kid.
165 - These two will go back and forth for years to come. I think Facundo is the more technical wrestler. Facundo is improving by the week which I love. PK is strong as hell and holds great position. If he learns to ignore the Brands advice to “smother” and actually creates offense this kid is problems for everyone.
174 - Meh for both. My comments here won’t lend anything productive. Neither wrestlers antics are my thing.
184 - Love AB and wish everyone was more like him.
197 - Dean being Dean. Tough on top. Great ride and used the ankle ride the correct way… not stalling … used it to flatten and control Warner with constant attempts to create scoring opportunities. I think the ankle ride is going to become a problem and needs to be resolved. I’m not hard and fast on any one opinion. Just don’t really like it. Open to all points of view on it.
HWT - Kerk was clearly the better wrestler and it has showed the last two times these guys have met. Still love the matchup. Look forward to this weight class in March.
Iowa deserves it’s due for the way they showed up to wrestle. Penn State deserves it’s due for weathering a tough stretch by Iowa and getting the job done. Lots of fringe posters on both boards. Truth is these two teams are the clear 1/2 in the country and their talents were on display for many to see. I have several basketball friends who tuned in to watch and they absolutely loved it and said they can’t wait to go to a match in person. Great for our sport. We Are!
125 - good effort not getting decked and coming out firing.
133 - great finish, lots of hand fighting to stall by Iowa just as in the 174 match. There is a difference when you hand fight to create angles and scoring opportunities and when you slap and hand fight just to circle and stall. It’s no different than riding the ankle which I also do not like.
141 - Beau is athletic as hell but still struggles from bottom against top tier competitors which to me points to his size being an issue. I like him at 133 next year and welcome all criticism against this. When I watched he and David Evans wrestle early this year and Evans gave him all he could handle, my gut tells me he’s still too small for the weight. Obviously he’s still a great wrestler. Credit to Woods who looked pretty good to me.
149 - Too much hand fighting from our guy and not creating enough scoring opportunities which is easier said than done. I thought Murin looked pretty good compared to some recent matches against tough opponents. Credit to him.
157 - Great match and great scrap. I loved both of these wrestlers effort. They are young and they both fought hard. Both are going to have good careers but Haines was clearly the better wrestler. His ability to shoot to the far leg is as good as anyone I’ve seen. High ceiling for this kid.
165 - These two will go back and forth for years to come. I think Facundo is the more technical wrestler. Facundo is improving by the week which I love. PK is strong as hell and holds great position. If he learns to ignore the Brands advice to “smother” and actually creates offense this kid is problems for everyone.
174 - Meh for both. My comments here won’t lend anything productive. Neither wrestlers antics are my thing.
184 - Love AB and wish everyone was more like him.
197 - Dean being Dean. Tough on top. Great ride and used the ankle ride the correct way… not stalling … used it to flatten and control Warner with constant attempts to create scoring opportunities. I think the ankle ride is going to become a problem and needs to be resolved. I’m not hard and fast on any one opinion. Just don’t really like it. Open to all points of view on it.
HWT - Kerk was clearly the better wrestler and it has showed the last two times these guys have met. Still love the matchup. Look forward to this weight class in March.
Iowa deserves it’s due for the way they showed up to wrestle. Penn State deserves it’s due for weathering a tough stretch by Iowa and getting the job done. Lots of fringe posters on both boards. Truth is these two teams are the clear 1/2 in the country and their talents were on display for many to see. I have several basketball friends who tuned in to watch and they absolutely loved it and said they can’t wait to go to a match in person. Great for our sport. We Are!
He's proud of the way Little Punk Brands wrestled - being called for stalling and doing his little clown dance after being proven he is the little beatch loser he is..... all of it. He's just so proud of it.... [insert eyeroll].
he held his ground the whole match. never ran. starocci just doesn't have offense you think he does. you were a bit, dare i say....delusional.
Here are some photos of last night's dual.
I'll break this into four comments of five images apiece. 1/4
I'll break this into four comments of five images apiece. 1/4
no idea how haines didn't give up nearfall there. that was unreal.2/4
Both were correct, Michigan was #2 and Iowa was and is a #2.
Really, can you enlighten me as to why little beatch Brands was called for violating the stalling rule if what he was doing is "allowed by rule". This should be entertaining. LMAO
.....and the BJC lighting people need to get the sh*t together. How many times at the end of a match did they turn off the main lighting and then lose a few seconds while they try to find our winning wrestler with a spotlight, while everyone watching misses our guy's immediate reaction at the end of an exciting match? end rant/
Pretty good! I’m 48. Not quite a grumpy old man yet but trending that direction.
Is that why he was called for stalling? LMAO. Your little punk hero was called for as many stalls as points he scored... and that little beatch clown dance he did after losing was oh so impressive.
