Bowl guru Palm has us back in the NY6

[Jerry]

Cotton versus Tulane.

He says only an LSU upset of Georgia might knock that off track.

His Playoff 4: Georgia, Michigan, TCU, USC...in that order. (Sorry, Psugo.)

Bowl projections: Michigan replaces Ohio State in College Football Playoff as LSU, Clemson ruin chances

Jerry Palm's bowl projections undergo yet another shakeup following a bevy of upsets throughout Rivalry Week

www.cbssports.com

 

[rohrmd9]

I would think a USC loss next week could possibly knock it off track. Does OSU get in if USC loses?

 

[mcpat]

Cotton versus Tulane.

He says only an LSU upset of Georgia might knock that off track.

His Playoff 4: Georgia, Michigan, TCU, USC...in that order. (Sorry, Psugo.)

Bowl projections: Michigan replaces Ohio State in College Football Playoff as LSU, Clemson ruin chances

Jerry Palm's bowl projections undergo yet another shakeup following a bevy of upsets throughout Rivalry Week

www.cbssports.com

Hard to argue with USC IF they win next weekend. They’ll be a conference champ with only one (1-point) road loss against a ranked opponent that they will have avenged in their conf championship game (if they win it).

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Cotton versus Tulane.

He says only an LSU upset of Georgia might knock that off track.

His Playoff 4: Georgia, Michigan, TCU, USC...in that order. (Sorry, Psugo.)

Bowl projections: Michigan replaces Ohio State in College Football Playoff as LSU, Clemson ruin chances

Jerry Palm's bowl projections undergo yet another shakeup following a bevy of upsets throughout Rivalry Week

www.cbssports.com

If LSU knocks off UGa.... hysterical. LSU is mediocre and the SEC CCG is an awful game. LSU never should have been ranked 5 and they're fortunate to only have 3 losses at this point.

 

[Online Persona]

If we get the cotton it is a bit of a let down. There aren't even any undefeated or 1 loss highly ranked G5 teams. Maybe they'll move Tulane up to give the appearance of them belonging? But this team deserves to measure themselves against Bama or Clemson.

 

[Obliviax]

PSU versus Tulane is an awful draw for us. I’d rather not be in the NY6 and play Clemson Oregon or LSU.

We haven’t had a good bowl game in quite a while. Games like Memphis and Kentucky.


It’s a no win situation. If we win and we were just expected to. We lose and all hell breaks out about us being over rated

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

I would think a USC loss next week could possibly knock it off track. Does OSU get in if USC loses?

If USC loses (or TCU to K-State for that matter), duhO$U is in and PSU to Rose.

 

[Online Persona]

If USC loses (or TCU to K-State for that matter), duhO$U is in and PSU to Rose.

As much as I don't want to see Michigan and Ohio St both in, I would prefer the match-up in the rose for this team.

 

[jbenedict]

So we wont know who is playing in what bowl until the middle of next week?

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

So we wont know who is playing in what bowl until the middle of next week?

Ummmm....., we won't know which team goes to which Bowl until after the CCGs next week. The Final CFP Rankings aren't published until the Sunday afternoon after the CC Games.

 

[LandoComando]

So we wont know who is playing in what bowl until the middle of next week?

Utah/USC play Friday--if Utah wins we'll be in the Rose against Utah
If USC win then we'll have to see what happens on Saturday
But definitely not the middle of next week--Sunday

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

...and the saga of the foolish CFP and meaningless NY 6 rolls on.

Could a team possibly decline an NY6 bowl and accept another outside the NY6 if offered?

 

[proud2bpsufan]

Ummmm....., we won't know which team goes to which Bowl until after the CCGs next week. The Final CFP Rankings aren't published until the Sunday afternoon after the CC Games.

The CCGs shouldn't be part of the playoff/bowl rankings. Teams should be rated based off of the 12-game regular season schedule. The CCGs should only be for bragging rights.

 

[LandoComando]

...and the saga of the foolish CFP and meaningless NY 6 rolls on.

Could a team possibly decline an NY6 bowl and accept another outside the NY6 if offered?

No--teams can't decline bowls other than Independents.

 

[AWS1022]

PSU versus Tulane is an awful draw for us. I’d rather not be in the NY6 and play Clemson Oregon or LSU.

We haven’t had a good bowl game in quite a while. Games like Memphis and Kentucky.


It’s a no win situation. If we win and we were just expected to. We lose and all hell breaks out about us being over rated

This is why the G5 should not be automatically in the NY6 bowls.

 

[LandoComando]

The CCGs shouldn't be part of the playoff/bowl rankings. Teams should be rated based off of the 12-game regular season schedule. The CCGs should only be for bragging rights.

Or better yet--they shouldn't be played.

 

[AWS1022]

Or better yet--they shouldn't be played.

This year really highlights that point…do teams like UNC and Purdue really deserve to be in a championship game. A whole bunch of bad games next weekend.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

The CCGs shouldn't be part of the playoff/bowl rankings. Teams should be rated based off of the 12-game regular season schedule. The CCGs should only be for bragging rights.

Huh? What? So you think both TCU and USC should go to CFP 4-Team Invitational even if they both lost???

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

This year really highlights that point…do teams like UNC and Purdue really deserve to be in a championship game. A whole bunch of bad games next weekend.

UNC and Purdue...... what about a 3-loss LSU that is lucky they didn't lose to Auburn (and were bailed out by SEC Refs in that one).

 

[Jerry]

I would think a USC loss next week could possibly knock it off track. Does OSU get in if USC loses?

Correct. That would knock it off track in a good way: we'd end up in the Rose.

 

[LandoComando]

This year really highlights that point…do teams like UNC and Purdue really deserve to be in a championship game. A whole bunch of bad games next weekend.

Agreed--Utah/USC and Kansas State/TCU are the only good games next week--and both are rematches

 

[Jerry]

PSU versus Tulane is an awful draw for us. I’d rather not be in the NY6 and play Clemson Oregon or LSU.

We haven’t had a good bowl game in quite a while. Games like Memphis and Kentucky.


It’s a no win situation. If we win and we were just expected to. We lose and all hell breaks out about us being over rated

Cotton is fine with me...especially if the alternative is a 4-loss SEC team in the Citrus. As noted in another thread, there is no upside for us in that scenario.

 

[AWS1022]

UNC and Purdue...... what about a 3-loss LSU that is lucky they didn't lose to Auburn (and were bailed out by SEC Refs in that one).

Agreed…they don’t deserve to be in a CCG either.

 

[LandoComando]

Things get interesting if TCU & USC both losee

Then it's probably
1 Georgia vs. 4 Alabama
2 Michigan vs. 3 Ohio State

Rose: Utah vs Penn State
Orange: Clemson/UNC vs. Tennessee
Sugar: LSU (with 4 losses lol) vs K-State
Cotton: TCU vs. Tulane/G5

Somehow USC gets left out because of tie-ins

Maybe TCU stays at 4 in that scenario with
Rose the same
Orange: Clemson/UNC vs. Alabama
Sugar: Alabama vs. K-State
Cotton: USC vs. Tulane/G5

 

[lazydave841]

Huh? What? So you think both TCU and USC should go to CFP 4-Team Invitational even if they both lost???

Who gets in over them if they do lose?

OSU, I can see the argument there, but they will be a similar 1 loss team.

Then who? It's a bunch of 2 loss teams that aren't division winners. Do you want Bama put in over TCU? Over USC?

 

[LandoComando]

Cotton is fine with me...especially if the alternative is a 4-loss SEC team in the Citrus. As noted in another thread, there is no upside for us in that scenario.

Playing a G5 team is a no win situation--if you lose it's embarrassing--if you win it's meaningless

For those that care about bowls you need Ohio State and Michigan to get in the playoff so we play Utah

 

[proud2bpsufan]

Huh? What? So you think both TCU and USC should go to CFP 4-Team Invitational even if they both lost???

Yes, assuming they are in the top 4 after the 12-game regular season. The CCGs are an EXTRA game that the rest of the teams don't get a chance to WIN or LOSE. It shouldn't wreck a perfect 12-0 season. If they playoff committee felt they should be there at the end of the regular season, they should stay there.

 

[LandoComando]

Who gets in over them if they do lose?

OSU, I can see the argument there, but they will be a similar 1 loss team.

Then who? It's a bunch of 2 loss teams that aren't division winners. Do you want Bama put in over TCU? Over USC?

Yeah, Alabama definitely will be ahead of USC
TCU/Alabama is interesting though
There's no way Ohio State isn't 3 if USC and TCU lose. USC would have 2 losses.

 

[LandoComando]

Yes, assuming they are in the top 4 after the 12-game regular season. The CCGs are an EXTRA game that the rest of the teams don't get a chance to WIN or LOSE. It shouldn't wreck a perfect 12-0 season. If they playoff committee felt they should be there at the end of the regular season, they should stay there.

Blame the conferences for being money hungry though
A lot of people already think Ohio State and Alabama are better than TCU and USC so if they lose they'll be out.
Fair or not--this is why we need a legit playoff.

 

[doctornick]

PSU versus Tulane is an awful draw for us. I’d rather not be in the NY6 and play Clemson Oregon or LSU.

We haven’t had a good bowl game in quite a while. Games like Memphis and Kentucky.


It’s a no win situation. If we win and we were just expected to. We lose and all hell breaks out about us being over rated

If we aren’t in the NY6, then we are playing an 8-4 SEC team like Ole Miss or Miss St in the Citrus. Is that better? I’d rather make the better bowl and play a nominally higher ranked team (particularly Tulane if they go 11-2) but is also easier to defeat.

 

[fastlax16]

Who gets in over them if they do lose?

OSU, I can see the argument there, but they will be a similar 1 loss team.

Then who? It's a bunch of 2 loss teams that aren't division winners. Do you want Bama put in over TCU? Over USC?

Yes he does. They beat ole miss on the road dont ya know.

 

[Jerry]

Meanwhile, Kevin Warren lobbies for Ohio State to make the playoff regardless. Link below.

Kevin says yesterday's game is a statement on "how strong Big-10 football is." Gag.

Sorry, Kevin. Not gonna happen unless USC or TCU loses their conference championship game.

But it does put us in a no-lose position: The Bucks get denied and the howls of outrage from the Big-10 front office will be sweet to hear; or the Bucks get in, and we go to the Rose Bowl.

Warren: 'Without a doubt' OSU deserves CFP bid

Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren made the case for Ohio State to make the College Football Playoff despite its 45-23 loss to Michigan on Saturday.

www.espn.com

 

[LandoComando]

If we aren’t in the NY6, then we are playing an 8-4 SEC team like Ole Miss or Miss St in the Citrus. Is that better? I’d rather make the better bowl and play a nominally higher ranked team (particularly Tulane if they go 11-2) but is also easier to defeat.

Yes, it would be better to play the SEC team--if we lose it's nothing--if we win "we beat an SEC team"
If we play Tulane and lose it's BAD. If we win "okay you beat a G5" team

 

[LandoComando]

Yes he does. They beat ole miss on the road dont ya know.

Say USC and TCU lose...do you really think Alabama doesn't jump both?

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

This year really highlights that point…do teams like UNC and Purdue really deserve to be in a championship game. A whole bunch of bad games next weekend.

It also highlights that the Conferences have wildly different CCG structures and it bastardizes the meaning of a "Conference Championship". They should probably stick with a Division-based model in an expanded playoff where an upset in CCG merely effects their seeding which is the way it should be.

 

[AWS1022]

Who gets in over them if they do lose?

OSU, I can see the argument there, but they will be a similar 1 loss team.

Then who? It's a bunch of 2 loss teams that aren't division winners. Do you want Bama put in over TCU? Over USC?

If USC loses, they will have two losses and both to the same team in their conference, so they would obviously not be the best team in their conference and wouldn’t deserve a playoff bid.

 

[fastlax16]

PSU versus Tulane is an awful draw for us. I’d rather not be in the NY6 and play Clemson Oregon or LSU.

We haven’t had a good bowl game in quite a while. Games like Memphis and Kentucky.


It’s a no win situation. If we win and we were just expected to. We lose and all hell breaks out about us being over rated

There’s no no ny6 scenario that lets us matchup with Clemson or Oregon. In theory we could matchup with lsu in the citrus but someone would need to jump us to take the cotton slot and that is very unlikely since the teams most likely to do it would be kstate and Utah and wins by either likely send us to the rose.

Regardless playing LSU this year is a lose-lose. They’re going to have 4 losses. Beating them isn’t worth much and losing to them continues the sec superiority narrative. Pass.

 

[LandoComando]

If USC loses, they will have two losses and both to the same team in their conference, so they would obviously not be the best team in their conference and wouldn’t deserve a playoff bid.

But you don't need to be the "best team" in your conference to get in as we'll see if Ohio State gets in this year
I do think Georgia Michigan Ohio State Alabama would be funny and get us an expanded playoff next year

 

[LandoComando]

There’s no no ny6 scenario that lets us matchup with Clemson or Oregon. In theory we could matchup with lsu in the citrus but someone would need to jump us to take the cotton slot and that is very unlikely since the teams most likely to do it would be kstate and Utah and wins by either likely send us to the rose.

Regardless playing LSU this year is a lose-lose. They’re going to have 4 losses. Beating them isn’t worth much and losing to them continues the sec superiority narrative. Pass.

Beating Tulane does what exactly?

 

[doctornick]

Things get interesting if TCU & USC both losee

Then it's probably
1 Georgia vs. 4 Alabama
2 Michigan vs. 3 Ohio State

Rose: Utah vs Penn State
Orange: Clemson/UNC vs. Tennessee
Sugar: LSU (with 4 losses lol) vs K-State
Cotton: TCU vs. Tulane/G5

Somehow USC gets left out because of tie-ins

Maybe TCU stays at 4 in that scenario with
Rose the same
Orange: Clemson/UNC vs. Alabama
Sugar: Alabama vs. K-State
Cotton: USC vs. Tulane/G5

USC is undoubtedly in the NY6 over LSU in the first scenario. You think they’d rank 11-2 USC below 9-4 LSU when both just lost a CCG? USC would be in the Cotton.

That being said, I think TCU stays above Bama with a loss and goes to the CFP if both TCU and USC loses.