I don't understand why she torched the food/wheat instead of only soldiers. I thought she needs the food for her armies.
I never got the impression that the White Walkers did much strategic thinking.
Gama of Thrones Episode 4
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With this episode behind us I believe the most important "thing" we saw was in the previews for next week where I think Tyrion's dual-loyalty is going to cost him. Dany is impatient and tired of waiting - Tyrion keeps wanting to play the slow, but hopefully popular game. Her speech to the defeated Lannisters wasn't the same speech she gave to freed slaves and Unsullied; it's 'join or die' (you can see the look of concern on Tyrion's face when she says this). Now, we saw her go to Jon Snow - a total outsider - for advice last week. She's at her wits end and I think is looking for a 'yes man'; perhaps this is where Jorah finds a new role? Displacing Tyrion as her hand since we know he, above all else, is loyal to her?
I found somewhere that Jorah had previously met with The Golden Mercenaries (or whatever they are called) - perhaps that is where he goes and convinces them to fight for Dany and not Cersei? They 'agree' to terms with Cersei, but wait for the moment to turn arms against Cersei's 'army'... ooohhh that would be priceless.
When word gets out about the annihilation of Jaime's army, I have to think that folks who are on the fence (such as mercenaries) might be inclined to side with Danaerys.
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Yeah, except one of the things Tyrion and Varys liked about Dany was that she was compassionate, kind, and a 'good' person. Forcing someone to take sides because the alternative is death is not what they have in mind IMO. We're seeing Dany's ego and impatience get in the way of her good heart.
Dragon glass swords are nice, but dragon glass arrow points will be more useful. Be interesting to see if a dragon glass arrow point can shatter a giant.
Methinks that her nephew Jon will be a level headed calm influence. His opinion swung the tide against attacking Kings Landing
I'm trying to wrap my brain around how Dany and Jon can join forces without one or the other swearing fealty to the other? Jon can't be King of The North and Dany be The Queen sitting on The Iron Throne... but I don't think Jon has visions of sitting on The Throne either, nor could they 'rule in union' without being married... and I just can't see Martin writing that Dany and Jon get married (since this is an Aunt/Nephew thing). I have seen where Martin is having said there will be some sorrow to come. I read this as the way he'll get The Northmen to fight for Dany (having Jon die again).
Go back to when Tyrion became the hand. He told Dany to rid herself of Darrio. She told Darrio she may have to marry for political expediency. Targaryens are well known to inter- marry.
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Exactly. They're about as pure-bred as one could be (save Cersei/Jaime's kids...) for the time. Having said that, there are some seeds being planted for this to happen - namely, Davos mentioning how Jon seems to be 'staring' at Dany's 'good heart' quite a bit and Jon getting in some subtle arm touches in his art house cave tour. And strategically, it makes sense. Dany said if Jon, as King in the North, bends the knee, his people will follow. As her subject - maybe they wouldn't support it; as her husband? Almost certainly.
if you guys thought this last episode was great wait till you see what is coming.
Its a plot twist you wont see, but after it happens you'll be like yep knew it all along.
I can give you hints if you like, but imagine you guys dont like spoilers.
Its a plot twist you wont see, but after it happens you'll be like yep knew it all along.
I can give you hints if you like, but imagine you guys dont like spoilers.
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If you do.....
Also, I see someone has been scouring the internets for leaked GoT info. Can't you just enjoy the show when it airs? I don't get the need to know everything first.
I feel the same way. Don't give in those hackers. And HBO don't pay those those fackers.If you do.....
Also, I see someone has been scouring the internets for leaked GoT info. Can't you just enjoy the show when it airs? I don't get the need to know everything first.
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Best news was that last week's episode set an all time ratings record for the show. Stunning when you consider the leak was available for a couple days before the show aired.
If you do.....
Also, I see someone has been scouring the internets for leaked GoT info. Can't you just enjoy the show when it airs? I don't get the need to know everything first.
sorry I was the kid who opened my christmas gifts and repackaged them. then put on a huge smile christmas morning. bad genetics I guess.
I thought the last episode was so good that I went looking for what happens next and you can find the video, the scripts, videos with the scripts....just about anything you want.
I will tell you a major character will die (but none of the ones your thinking), a show secret will be revealed, and people have sex at sea.
The biggest holy sh!t moment is the season ending scene, it will have you craving next season more than you probably have any other season.
Partially. Initially they used guerilla tactics like abandoning castles completely when the Targaryen army coming.
10 years after Aegons initial conquest of the rest of Westeros, A weapon like this took out one of his sisters dragons by hitting in the eye. She died as well as when the dragon was killed it was 100s of feet in the air.
No it's not but saying a major character dies in the next episode is. Then when it happens it won't be a surprise or that shocking
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We're sort of down to a very limited list of 'major' characters too.
If I read something online I try not to spell it out completely... If I misstep I would hope someone would correct me. 
Well, I guess that thanks to that guy, I'm not reading any GOT threads here until after the season is over.
Way to go, fella. You're a hero and a savant.
Way to go, fella. You're a hero and a savant.
Just put him on ignore... then you won't see his BS.
Some people glean joy out of ruining stuff for others.
She was not aware that LittleF'r was there. She chose to go to Winterfell after being told that Jon was the KOTN.
BTW, I don't think LittleF'r makes it through this season. He is going to try and pit Arya and Sansa against one another and Sansa is going to end up ordering his execution. That's my prediction. Sansa will end up being the Ward of the North under new Westeros rule. The only question is who will rule Westeros in the end. But that is for another season.
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My prediction is Arya gets Littlefinger with his own dagger but with the face of someone else...
So LittleF'r gets killed by "No One".
She didn't "shut off their payoff to the Bank". The gold had already been delivered to Kings Landing before this battle took place.
The attack wasn't at HighGarden. It was along the road to either Kings Landing or back to Casterly Rock.
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Yup - discussed previously. The episode being the shortest ever sort of took away from the fact that the Lannister army went from Highgarden to King's Landing in the span of 45 minutes or so.
She never offered the defeated anything but death in her previous battles. She didn't defeat the unsullied, she defeated their masters. She didn't defeat the slaves, she defeated their masters. This is the first time she has offered life to those she defeated. Previously she would have just burned them all.
If you know your Westerosi history, the Targaryens are famous for intermarrying their relatives, including brother & sister.
But I don't think that is what will happen here. Remember when Dany was told by Darrio that she is not suited to sit on a thrown? I think that will be telling in the future. I think Jon becomes the King of the Seven Kingdoms and Sansa will be Ward of the North. Dany will end up returning to Essos with the Dothraki and Unsullied to be a conqueror. She will realize that is where her home is. My prediction anyway.
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What previous battles? I think you're rambling a bit - all over the place. Varys and Tyrion have both said they support Dany because she is 'a good person' - that is not disputed.
When everyone learns who Jon really is, and that Rhaegar Targaryen annulled his first marriage and married Lyanna Stark before Jon was born, and thus Jon is not a bastard, then Jon would have the higher claim to the thrown, being the first son of the first son of the Mad King.
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