Iowa @ Ohio State PBP, Results and Discussion Thread
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Nothing that a few more dead lifts and some time in the tanning bed won't take care of. They should be all bronzed up and ready for action in no time.
IDK . . . I seem to fall into the trap each year thinking a bunch of their guys look like dogmeat mid-season, but they tend to surprise to the upside come March. I think they'll be on their A-game. Should be an intense ride.
This is off my memory
First period decent amount of action few shots, nato got in the deepest I think on high crotch but well defended. No score after one
Second nato chose down and will not do that again , lee rode him the whole period close to back points but couldn’t hold him when nato tried to sit out and lee sucked him back
Third lee escapes nato is aggressive and converts a hc for a takedown and lee quickly escapes
I thought the 1st period ended 0-0. Then Lee rode out the 2nd period. In the 3rd, Tomasello cut Lee and then scored a TD (off of HC I believe) for a 2-1 lead (but Lee having RT). Tomasello cuts Lee again to make it 2-2 and gets in really deep with about 45 seconds to go, but Lee fought to hold off the TD late and wins 3-2 on RT. That's the way I remember it.
Was thinking the same, but limited to wrestling style - Marinelli is Mike Evans Part Deux.
My memory is 16 years older and needs repeated verification!!
Stoll's injury history is the only reason I give that decision a pass. Stoll has been to hell and back dealing with his knee injuries, and I can only imagine te emotional anguish for him personally and for his coaches.
That said, it poses a bit of a predicament. Let's assume he and Brands eventually are not going to be content to concede to Snyder -- i.e., they will be serious about pursuing the 285 title in 2018. What do they do at B1Gs? Dodge Snyder, and maybe Coon, too? Then let it all hang out at Nationals?
While that could help maximize chances of good health, the downside is that Stoll gets no recent experience against Snyder (or Coon). Does the benefit outweigh the cost? If you're truly "all-in" going for the 285 title?
I find this pretty interesting, now that the dodging strategy is clearly at play. How far do they take it?
Against the Bucks the Bucks might win 3 matches maybe four if Synder comes.
25,33 and 41- (maybe) and Hwt.
25,33 and 41- (maybe) and Hwt.
That’s exactly how it played out. My bad. I watched 4-5 matches in 3-4 hours on btn and btn plus and it’s all running together. Lol. Needless to say, I get confused easily. Lol
And Hagerty kept saying no reversal when Martins shoe came off even after he had awarded the points.
tOSU not impressive at all today v the Hawks, even though I recognize Iowa is tough.
25 - I rank him 3rd now, behind both Suriano and Lee. He could beat both, but he does not deserve
to be ranked ahead of either right now. Maybe 4th, behind Cruz.
33 - Tough kid. Can't count on much bonus from him during Nationals, but he's a good bet to finish
in the top 4.
41 - Solid kid. Long history of underperforming at Nationals. Could see that streak continuing. I'll take
N Lee over him all day long.
49 - Could finish top 8, but certainly not a guarantee to do so. Looked better today in this loss than he
has in other matches recently. Gas tank remains a question.
57 - Can't hold a candle to top 2 in this class. I'll say low AA at this point.
65 - More and more convinced this guy does not AA. Overrated.
74 - Again, I think the gap has widened between top 2 and Bojo.
84 - Myles is very tough and looks to be much improved. Today he clearly faded in the 3rd, though.
Yet another Nut who showed the gas tank is lacking.
97 - Absolutely unimpressive against Cash. Was in control, but should have bonused him. This guy
is very, very good, but if he was upset, it would not be shocking in the least.
HW - No one can compete with him. As much a lock to finish 1st as anyone.
25 - I rank him 3rd now, behind both Suriano and Lee. He could beat both, but he does not deserve
to be ranked ahead of either right now. Maybe 4th, behind Cruz.
33 - Tough kid. Can't count on much bonus from him during Nationals, but he's a good bet to finish
in the top 4.
41 - Solid kid. Long history of underperforming at Nationals. Could see that streak continuing. I'll take
N Lee over him all day long.
49 - Could finish top 8, but certainly not a guarantee to do so. Looked better today in this loss than he
has in other matches recently. Gas tank remains a question.
57 - Can't hold a candle to top 2 in this class. I'll say low AA at this point.
65 - More and more convinced this guy does not AA. Overrated.
74 - Again, I think the gap has widened between top 2 and Bojo.
84 - Myles is very tough and looks to be much improved. Today he clearly faded in the 3rd, though.
Yet another Nut who showed the gas tank is lacking.
97 - Absolutely unimpressive against Cash. Was in control, but should have bonused him. This guy
is very, very good, but if he was upset, it would not be shocking in the least.
HW - No one can compete with him. As much a lock to finish 1st as anyone.
Great analysis overall with one major exception. McKenna's long history of underperforming at Nationals is one year (last year) when he lost in the R12 and the other when he finished 3rd as a frosh. I agree that IMHO Lee is better right now but writing off McKenna is a bit premature.
Fair enough. I suppose last year's disappointing finish seems larger because of the promise he showed as a frosh.
I am surprised no one has mentioned Jaegers and Brands. Terry, I believe it was, wagged his finger in the direction of tOSU coaches. Jaegers blew him a kiss. Lol
I was there and by no means was this the toal attendance. Much lower than that. I would say 12,000 max maybe not even that
Urban Meyer’s Ego was in attendance.
That mostly likely accounted for the extra 3,000.
Agree, they have 6 weeks to improve the conditioning. OTOH, some of them (NATO, cough, cough) have 8 more weeks of serious weight cutting.
A lot of us on the boards are well aware that months of serious cutting really hurts the conditioning and strength no matter how hard you work at the conditioning.
It is a fun year. After each Buckeye or PSU match there is a recalibration with one team or the other inching slightly ahead in general perception. (Obviously, each team's die-hards are confident who wins mid-march.)
Recent history seems to indicate that both teams perform well in March tournaments. It is going to be a battle, and exciting team races will make the end of season even more enjoyable for us fans.
As for NATO, Bucks fans have no more to worry about than Penn State fans do about Neville's mid-season slide. Something tells me they will both be at their best come Big Ten's and NCAA's.
Recent history seems to indicate that both teams perform well in March tournaments. It is going to be a battle, and exciting team races will make the end of season even more enjoyable for us fans.
As for NATO, Bucks fans have no more to worry about than Penn State fans do about Neville's mid-season slide. Something tells me they will both be at their best come Big Ten's and NCAA's.
Jaggers looks 5 years older than Brands. To much time in the tanning beds over the years!
Alex M. looks 10 years older than Jaggers. Better keep him away from the windows.
Yep. No fuel in the tank and it doesn't matter how hard you push on the gas pedal.
Cutting weight most certainly affects training, conditioning and can sap mental enthusiasm.
Thing is, if you manage your weight properly the impact is minimized. Jaggers is a prime example. Jaggers would struggle big time, until he got his massive weight cut under control and would peak at the end of the season. NATO was well conditioned yesterday and I do not think his conditioning will be an issue at any point during the last couple months.
A last thought.
The Lions will be well conditioned also, but it isn't an advantage in conditioning that will lead to a Lion team victory. Lion wrestlers will outwrestle Nature Nut wrestlers.
Just a thought.
Does anybody else find it hypocritical for a coach to not send out his highly ranked athlete against a slightly higher ranked athlete in fear of the higher ranked athlete hurting his highly ranked athlete? Yet it is OK to send a scrubb out to take the health risking beating instead?
Just a thought?
Does anybody else find it hypocritical for a coach to not send out his highly ranked athlete against a slightly higher ranked athlete in fear of the higher ranked athlete hurting his highly ranked athlete? Yet it is OK to send a scrubb out to take the health risking beating instead?
Just a thought?
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Let's see one has a history of significant knee injuries to the point that he hasn't been able to finish an NCAA tournament. The other does not. You can't be serious. Are you trolling or are you really that dumb?
Go post that on HR. Funny you only post that on your homer forum where a bunch of yes men won't call you out on an idiotic post. Nope, you'll probably go on HR and say you think it was smart that Brands didn't wrestle Stoll lol.
I still have to favor Nato in a rematch. Lee's only points came on 2 releases and a ride out.
Lee didn't come close to scoring a TD, and I doubt Nato takes bottom next time.
Lee didn't come close to scoring a TD, and I doubt Nato takes bottom next time.
Already posted on HR, and it most certainly wasn't supportive of holding Sam out.
Spencer is currently still recovering from a significant knee injury that was repaired less than a year ago and somehow managed to take the mat against a very strong and skilled opponent. Yeah i know. That's different.
Nine other kids battled to give Iowa a shot. Not a realistic shot (except maybe in your foggy head), but a shot and fearful of a big, strong, highly ranked athlete not being able to withstand the possible physical beating from a slightly higher ranked athlete the decision was made to punt the shot to win. Then to top it off, despite the fear the big, bad Buck might hurt the bigger, bad hawk the Hawk staff sent out a smaller, more susceptible to injury backup to take the beating.
If asking an honest question is trolling, then for your satisfaction we will go with trolling.
So, at what point in the rankings is a wrestler deemed "safe enough" for Stoll to wrestle?
We know #1 is too high. Is #2 ok?
We also know he skipped Hemida.
So what is it!? 4, 6, 10?
We know #1 is too high. Is #2 ok?
We also know he skipped Hemida.
So what is it!? 4, 6, 10?
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