MSU Dual Discussion
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Well he did manage to draw two SW and a point for stalling with his aggressiveness in the 2nd.
Does anyone know how Gary Dinmore stacks up against Jimmy and Moss in the room? I remember watching alot if tape on him when he verballed to PSU and thought he had alot of upside. Dont hear much about him.
Cutch clearly is nowhere near 100%, really need him to place at NCAAs. If we get nothing from 141, 165 and 184 that could make it much tighter than we anticipated
Sad to see MacIntosh go -one of my all time favorites
I think he just recorded the fall as Track Wrestle said match over in middle of 2nd Period.
Jimmy beats them both in the room. No confidence in live matches. Close though. Keep in mind they are giving Jimmy a lot of money.
Think his back is fine
Said yesterday he looked huge, put on at least 25 lbs in the last year. Now a full size HWT
MSU's football fans must say the same thing about Penn State.
This is a four-time PIAA State Champion. Which means as a high school freshman he was beating kids three years older on his way to the top. Now, ranked in the top four at the start of the season, he suddenly can't beat people ranked in the low teens. Either something's seriously wrong between his ears or he's got an injury no one knows about or maybe he's forgotten how to wrestle. If it's an injury it's not serious enough for the staff to hold him out of the lineup and I'll go out on a limb and say, at age 20 or so, it's not incipient wrestling senility either. So that leaves "between the ears". It looks as though much of the time he's wrestling not-to-make-a-mistake, like something's caused him to lose that fine competitive edge which, at his current level of competition, can be the difference between blowing out an opponent and losing on points or maybe getting blown out yourself.
If his ankle is truly still on his mind then, until it's not, he doesn't deserve to start even if the doctor says he's good to go. But, to me, it looks for all the world like something's causing him to be overly-tentative in his matches and, until that's no longer the case, it's time for next man up.
How about, looking at the physical size of Zain it is damn near impossible for me to even imagine him cutting to 141.
Jimmy and confidence.
As noted by someone else, it is my understanding there is no doubt in the room who is the best 41 pounder.
However, I am starting to believe Jimmy wrestles Zain too much, because he is wrestling like someone who is regularly being beat down in the room.
I think I might just stick him with moss, dinmore, Conaway and Cortez.
Just saying
As noted by someone else, it is my understanding there is no doubt in the room who is the best 41 pounder.
However, I am starting to believe Jimmy wrestles Zain too much, because he is wrestling like someone who is regularly being beat down in the room.
I think I might just stick him with moss, dinmore, Conaway and Cortez.
Just saying
It has been a long a$$ed time since I needed to know this, but it used to be at the beginning of the college season you were given a weight allowance that got less as the season went along until by season's end you made scratch.
Are you saying in February and March they now have allowances?
They would have never got Jimmy if they were not giving him a lot of money. 4 time PA State Champ with i loss. Everyone in the country wanted him.
Even if there is an allowance, the difference is 8 pounds, and that is an absolute. Anybody even slightly knowledgable and looking at the size and tone of Zain would understand the impact and difficulty of continously having to deal with cutting an EXTRA 8 pounds.
Those lacking the necessary knowledge and understanding could think it is no big deal, or maybe just enjoy stirring shyt. Either way.
Those lacking the necessary knowledge and understanding could think it is no big deal, or maybe just enjoy stirring shyt. Either way.
Honestly, I'm starting to wonder if experimenting with Jordan at 141 and leaving Jimmy at 133 might not have worked better. Conaway is like a little bulldog and never gives up no matter who he's up against. And he's got a huge motor which allows him to win matches in the 3rd Period. What's done is done, so it really doesn't matter at this point.
OK. So you are changing the topic. Is that just to pretend to have a point or what?
I must have missed it - So what exactly did Casey say about Gulibon?
Apologies if this has already been posted or discussed.
Edit - Never mind. I saw the comments in a different thread.
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My original point was that it's sad that Beitz at 149 would have been a better option than Jimmy at 141. Zain is #1 either way. Of course, that's all hindsight, and I stated as much. I was fully on board with the moves. The thought just furthers my frustration with Gulibon.
Maybe you think it's unimaginable that Retherford could make 141, but he will most definitely make 143. Perhaps the discussion is pointless, but I don't really know what your problem is.
we can speculate all we want and that is interesting, but after awhile the rant becomes tiresome. I hear on this forum we should trust in Cael. so be it.
Jordan from a legitimate 25 pounder to a 33 pounder who worked his rear off to add the muscle and does have a huge gas tank. I am not sure Jordan could have added enough muscle to be a legitimate 41 pounder.
There were times during the past 2 seasons Jimmy struggled with his weight management at 33.
With the success the program has had moving kids up a weight - what was done was almost a no brainer.
I am going to tell you Jimmy Gulibon is big enough, strong enough, conditioned well enough and talented enough to be quite good at 141. Thing is you have to step unto the mat and wrestle tough, with non stop energy and every now and then you have to just win the gosh darn fight. He needs to quit pu##y footing around and wrestle like his a$$ is on fire.
I am stuck on Quentin was still getting beat right up to immediately prior to B1Gs.
Hope so. May just be me, but Jimmy's offense has not looked very good all year and he has real trouble from bottom - not sure either of those strike me as being a "head problem". What was the RT-Adv in today's match? Tonight, Jimmy gave up a TD and over a minute of RT in the 1st Period. It was obvious the match was over by the time the 1st Period was over - Jimmy simply doesn't have the offense to recover from that kind of deficit (especially because it was a mortal lock that his opponent would not only make his RT-Adv stand up but would likely extend it significantly for the remainder of the match.
Im hearing from some that Jimmy lacks the length and arm reach at 141. Im looking at Morgan and visually think the same could be said about him. Different results though. Where Jimmy isnt fighting to win the battles, Morgan presses on and gets the job done. He doesn't pu;;y foot around, he wrestles with fire and refuses to lose. That's why I'm agreeing with all you say. Jimmy needs a little Morgan Mcintosh attitude about him.
I would say "fair", at best. NN got a TD in the first period, and another one very late in the match, off a weak shot by the MSU guy. Given that his opponent is something like 3-17 on the season, IMO it was not a particularly impressive performance by NN. Still, it's a win in a real match. Baby steps.
Just wish NN had more time before B10s to get some additional matches under his belt and round into form.
y problem is your or
Yep, I misunderstood the initial 143 reference. I thought you were just being a smart a$$ and alluding to a weight allowance I may have been unaware of.
With that acknowledged, offering the 143 freestyle weight as some sort of proof Zain could have effectively wrestled 141 is a silly and still unknowledgable point. Holding 141 effectively for an entire season with 1 HR windows between weigh in and competition is a completely different animal than making weight night before competition and having to make the weight only a few select and spaced times a year.
My issue with your entire premise is whether intended or not I read the initial post and several follow up posts as side handed swipes at Zain for being selfish and choosing to wrestle the weight best for him, and in hindsight maybe not the best weight for the team. I think that is a whole hearted silly a$$ thought process. That's all.
He also makes the bizarre foresight assumption that everyone knew JG would struggle at this weight. I know about the fragility of his head, but did not see this.
On the other hand, that fragility can also lead to a run in the next few weeks....so......
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