Nebraska dual thread - Jan. 17

[24Joe]

Kasak surprised me - would have liked a committed attach in the 3rd but he looked winded. SVN will be fine next time around... got to get that feel. Davis will learn from this as well. He saw that his dble was a good shot... that was a good finish. He looked winded as well. Good match - scored over 30!

Kasak is a good sized 157 now, but are we sure SVN can beat him if he could get to 149? Seems like many believe Kasak could eventually be the odd man out when Duke arrives, but Kasak could lay claim to 149 in the future. I also think he matches up well with Shapiro who can be sloppy. I think Kasak has as good of chance as any of winning 157 this year.

Lovett is a bad matchup for SVN who doesn't defend as well as Kasak who is a little funkier. This said, SVN could easily win if they were to wrestle again.

I would pick Davis in a rematch since I'm sure he won't get caught in a Jonesy, again, or attempt an ill-advised throw that he didn't need to do. He just needed to keep attacking and not take his foot off of the gas. This said, probably the most precarious weight for PSU.

Barr has been really impressive and keeps improving. He looks as good as Buchanon. Need to see Cardenas wrestle this season to see how he matches up with him.

Lilledahl looked very good and pushed the action. He can definitely win 125 but needs to keep improving to get separation. Kid is definitely a stud.

 

[bourbon n blues]

Anyone that was predicting a shutout needs to remove the blue and white glasses….nebby was very capable of winning any match 125-157…..we have become spoiled

Spoiled is fun lol.

 

[USPMAN]

It's a shame though for SVN. Some were starting to give him some thought for the Hodge this year with the way he started. Will be interesting if he wrestles Lovett again at Big Tens.

Hodge contention? Give me a break man, he hasn’t wrestled anyone all season… putting someone in Hodge trophy contention before wrestling anyone with a pulse is somewhat asinine

 

[js8793]

Kasak is super impressive. He’s made some huge jumps. Like the way he wrestles.

 

[PAgeologist]

Davis did not manage the match well, should have recognized a takedown and ride at the end of 1st was good enough, got greedy for a tilt. Then for some reason didn't push end of 2nd.

Goes big with over a minute left in a 10-6 match.

He walked into a couple reattacks and reversals. Several of our guys relaxed and got caught. Kudos to Nebraska for seeing that and taking advantage of it.

 

[baccafarmer]

165 - #1 Mitchell Mesenbrink VS #7 Bubba Wilson

Period 1:
It's tech time. Let's go Mitchell! Mesenbrink quickly in on a leg. They're on the edge & Mesenbrink is trying to lock up a cradle. He gives it up & they're back to neutral, no scoring. Mesenbrink is coming forward, faking & fainting. Mesenbrink gets to a leg. Wilson sprawls & they go out of bounds, restart. Mesenbrink shoots, but no luck. Wilson gets a stall warning. Mesenbrink drops back in on a leg. Wilson is doing the splits. Mesenbrink keeps working & shelves the leg, then trips Wilson to the mat for the TD, 3-0, 1-min left. Mesenbrink has Wilson bellied out. Wilson gets back to his base, then to his feet, but Mesenbrink jacks him up & returns him to the mat. Mesenbrink has WIlson bellied out again. Mesenbrink goes over 1-min of riding time. Mesenbrink rides out the period. 3-0 Mesenbrink, +1:08 RT

Period 2:
Mesenbrink takes down, gets to his feet & gets the escape, 4-0. Riding time is at 1:01. Mesenbrink with a slick & quick TD, 7-0. Mesenbrink working a tilt, but only gets a 1-count. Mesenbrink with another 1-count. Mesenbrink readjusts, but it's blown dead & the ref is saying, "It's illegal." Mitchell doesn't agree & the coaches look confused when the camera pans to the PSU corner. Wilson gets a free point as Mesenbrink concedes the escape, 7-1. Restart in neutral. Mesenbrink is coming forward like a tornado. Fakes, faints & shots. Mesenbrink drives Wilson to the edge & out of bounds. Stalling #2 on Wilson, point Mesenbrink, 8-2. Mesenbrink is immediately back in on a leg, then gets the other & finishes another TD, 11-2. Mesenbrink rides out the period & adds 3 NF before time expires, 14-2 Mesenbrink, +1:53 RT

Period 3:
Wilson takes down. Mesenbrink concedes the escape & starts neutral, 14-3. Mesenbrink is immediately in on a double leg TD, 17-3. Mesenbrink has an arm barred. He runs it over & adds 3 NF more for the 20-3 TECH! That's how he does it! Could Mitchell tech his way through the entire season? Has that ever been done before?

Mitchell Mesenbrink TECH Bubba Wilson 20-3 (5:44)

Final Team Score:
PSU: 31
NEB: 7

“Mesenbrink is coming forward like a tornado.” - perfect description. Your prose continues to delight. Thanks for the pbp.

 

[PSU210]

Good match. Someone mentioned hell week and some did appear to be getting winded in the 3rd. Not worried about any losses as they can be turned around easily. We did have some close wins that were not dominant that would be good to sure up... hate matches that can come down to a td at the end and lose...
Kasak surprised me - would have liked a committed attach in the 3rd but he looked winded. SVN will be fine next time around... got to get that feel. Davis will learn from this as well. He saw that his dble was a good shot... that was a good finish. He looked winded as well. Good match - scored over 30!

Good observation, I also thought Kasak looked winded. He also looks like he goes to Jimmy Guilibon's barber. Amazing though how weeks ago he seemed to be the odd man out on the board and now we gloat over him. He is just a solid, strong, fundamentally sound wrestler. I'm struggling to think of a recent comparison but I can't. Not really flashy, not overly quick, but farm boy strong! Maybe a smaller version of Matt Brown?

 

[USPMAN]

I think 133 is going to be an interesting weight at big 10s and at nationals. Lot of really good kids at 133

133 is very tough, especially in the BIG…If Davis wants to AA he is gonna have to bring his “A” game come March

 

[SlipperyPete12]

“Mesenbrink is coming forward like a tornado.” - perfect description. Your prose continues to delight. Thanks for the pbp.

Thanks! It's a lot of fun!

The best community service ever! 😂

 

[Pinfan]

From another perspective, Erie Cathedral Prep went 2-0 last night…Van Dee and Starocci.

 

[nittinsc]

I had the feeling Davis didn't handle the dual starting at 174 well and had too much time in his hands before wrestling. To me he seemed tentative from the start and at times almost lethargic. Did he have a dreaded adrenaline dump? Then he felt he needed to go for broke instead of just keeping pressure and scoring enough to get back even.

 

[nittinsc]

From another perspective, Erie Cathedral Prep went 2-0 last night…Van Dee and Starocci.

As did Wyoming Seminary

 

[Pinfan]

As did Wyoming Seminary

LL and who else?

 

[nittinsc]

LL and who else?

Beau

 

[Pinfan]

Beau

Ah! Of course. I kept going over the Nebraska roster… gotta knock out the Saturday cobwebs.

 

[PSUwrestling]

LL wrestled great and proved that he is a title contender. His ability to keep his head and wrestle his match in a high stakes situation is Tom Bradyesque. And the athlete that impressed me the most was Kerk. He is just next level when it comes to wrestling through a situation. His instincts are uncanny his speed ridiculous power supernatural. I could feel Nick Lee cross over with Yanni I am not there with Kerk and Gable Stevenson but it is reasonable to believe that Kerk can keep winning situations against Gable. Kerk is wrestling like someone who can win a title against anyone.

 

[mhlarch]

Good observation, I also thought Kasak looked winded. He also looks like he goes to the Jimmy Guilibon's barber. Amazing though how weeks ago he seemed to be the odd man out on the board and now we gloat over him. He is just a solid, strong, fundamentally sound wrestler. I'm struggling to think of a recent comparison but I can't. Not really flashy, not overly quick, but farm boy strong! Maybe a smaller version of Matt Brown?

Great observations - I agree! "Farm boy" strong for sure, and LOL to the the "Jimmy Guilibon's barber" comment 😄

 

[eddy line]

Good observation, I also thought Kasak looked winded. He also looks like he goes to the Jimmy Guilibon's barber. Amazing though how weeks ago he seemed to be the odd man out on the board and now we gloat over him. He is just a solid, strong, fundamentally sound wrestler. I'm struggling to think of a recent comparison but I can't. Not really flashy, not overly quick, but farm boy strong! Maybe a smaller version of Matt Brown?

Kasak reminds me of Levi.

 

[amattaro]

Great night! FUN. Non match funsies:

Was talking with Carter’s dad before the match. I ran into him at a BWW in Tulsa on Friday night and we talked for two hours. Great guy. Last night I said this is the best team I have seen. He said we got some guys who still have to prove it and even those who have proven it have to do it again because somebody else is trying to do that. The attitude permeates everyone associates with the program.

When Coach Casey signed the kids pennants he said “you are going to be able to put this on the internet and sell it for a lot of money.”

I told Beau my son now runs around the house wearing two different shoes because of him. Beau: “but he got same shoes tonight.” My wife: “only at home, not allowed in public!” Beau: “only an idiot would do that!”

Mitchell to my kids “those are some nice tattoos you got.” Son: “they are not tattoos, they are stickers.” Mitchell: “oh…well..either way I like ‘em, maybe I should wear them when I go wrestle.”

Nebraska crowd was great. Friendly as can be. The arena and entire facility are top notch.

 

[raslen007]

See

I think Van Ness vs Lovett is the match I'm most looking forward to. Lovett seems to thrive on counter offense/scrambling from neutral and throwing in double boots on top to grind out matches against elite guys.

If Van Ness can get to his legs, finish cleanly/quickly without getting caught in those funky scrambles and get out from bottom, I'll be impressed and I think he'll be in great shape for March (not that

Kasak is super impressive. He’s made some huge jumps. Like the way he wrestles.

Fades a little in the 3rd. He just looks so confident out there.

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Good observation, I also thought Kasak looked winded. He also looks like he goes to the Jimmy Guilibon's barber. Amazing though how weeks ago he seemed to be the odd man out on the board and now we gloat over him. He is just a solid, strong, fundamentally sound wrestler. I'm struggling to think of a recent comparison but I can't. Not really flashy, not overly quick, but farm boy strong! Maybe a smaller version of Matt Brown?

I'd say a bit more technically advanced than Brown.

 

[PSUwrestling]

Great night! FUN. Non match funsies:

Was talking with Carter’s dad before the match. I ran into him at a BWW in Tulsa on Friday night and we talked for two hours. Great guy. Last night I said this is the best team I have seen. He said we got some guys who still have to prove it and even those who have proven it have to do it again because somebody else is trying to do that. The attitude permeates everyone associates with the program.

When Coach Casey signed the kids pennants he said “you are going to be able to put this on the internet and sell it for a lot of money.”

I told Beau my son now runs around the house wearing two different shoes because of him. Beau: “but he got same shoes tonight.” My wife: “only at home, it allowed in public!” Beau: “only an idiot would do that!”

Mitchell to my kids “those are some nice tattoos you got.” Son: “they are not tattoos, they are stickers.” Mitchell: “oh…well..either way I like ‘em, maybe I should wear them when I go wrestle.”

Nebraska crowd was great. Friendly as can be. The arena and entire facility are top notch.

Best post ever

 

[El-Jefe]

True, but after giving up the TD, he gave up 4NF, then got ridden out. Next time, take neutral and reduce the risk of Lovett getting a near fall.

Van Ness, needs to make a match from neutral and win it there.

Can we all agree that:
- Van Ness gave up no NF when he chose down?
- Van Ness gave up NF4 when Lovett chose down?

So let's say last night Shayne takes neutral. It's now 0-4 instead of 2-4 after Lovett'a takedown. How does taking neutral in the 2nd win that match? Because Shayne got a takedown in the 2nd that he didn't get in the 1st or 3rd?

I get that he might take neutral in a rematch and don't disagree with that strategy. I disagree with that being the solution, based on last night as direct evidence.

 

[PSUwrestling]

As far as our losses goes I feel as if the wheels fell off for both kids. 133 was kind of a meltdown and 149 got out wrestled. It was strange to see two PSU kids get actually beaten. Kudos to Nebraska. What interests me is the adjustments SVN will make over the next 60 days. I still believe he is probable to win it all this year. Davis feels like he can have an off day and loose Carter AB etc have off days and win ( not ugly but obviously off). It feels like a fairly big lift to move from where Davis is now to an RBY or a Nick Lee.

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Can we all agree that:
- Van Ness gave up no NF when he chose down?
- Van Ness gave up NF4 when Lovett chose down?

So let's say last night Shayne takes neutral. It's now 0-4 instead of 2-4 after Lovett'a takedown. How does taking neutral in the 2nd win that match? Because Shayne got a takedown in the 2nd that he didn't get in the 1st or 3rd?

I get that he might take neutral in a rematch and don't disagree with that strategy. I disagree with that being the solution, based on last night as direct evidence.

He had a couple of close no-tds early and if it goes the other way we may have been talking about a SVN major. Ridge is a GOOD wrestler. He's a title contender and his very clear strength is get a td and then ride the heck out of you. SVN can't give up tds and ring up a few extra in response. It's not the type of match Ridge allows.

 

[DEWrestlingFan]

Great night! FUN. Non match funsies:

Was talking with Carter’s dad before the match. I ran into him at a BWW in Tulsa on Friday night and we talked for two hours. Great guy. Last night I said this is the best team I have seen. He said we got some guys who still have to prove it and even those who have proven it have to do it again because somebody else is trying to do that. The attitude permeates everyone associates with the program.

When Coach Casey signed the kids pennants he said “you are going to be able to put this on the internet and sell it for a lot of money.”

I told Beau my son now runs around the house wearing two different shoes because of him. Beau: “but he got same shoes tonight.” My wife: “only at home, not allowed in public!” Beau: “only an idiot would do that!”

Mitchell to my kids “those are some nice tattoos you got.” Son: “they are not tattoos, they are stickers.” Mitchell: “oh…well..either way I like ‘em, maybe I should wear them when I go wrestle.”

Nebraska crowd was great. Friendly as can be. The arena and entire facility are top notch.

Love seeing these wrestlers give attention to the younger fans! Awesome job!

 

[Franklinstheman]

Hot Take: Van Ness Majors Lovett. 125, 133, 141 and 157 will all be very competitive, low-scoring battles. OTOH, Van Ness makes a huge statement with multiple TDs and a barrage of offense that leaves Lovett shaking his head in bewilderment. Let’s say something like 13-3, 10-2.

WE ARE!!!

Interesting

 

[GogglesPaizano]

Kasak is super impressive. He’s made some huge jumps. Like the way he wrestles.

Too bad he is transferring to Rutgers at season end. ;-) The kid just keeps getting better. Impressive.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Shane is going to be one of our National Champs this season.

I said what I said...

 

[nerfstate]

Hodge contention? Give me a break man, he hasn’t wrestled anyone all season… putting someone in Hodge trophy contention before wrestling anyone with a pulse is somewhat asinine

We may have thought Watters had a pulse. Turns out he was wrestling hurt.

 

[El-Jefe]

Hodge contention? Give me a break man, he hasn’t wrestled anyone all season… putting someone in Hodge trophy contention before wrestling anyone with a pulse is somewhat asinine

Didn't Shayne stuff the #10 ranked guy from Little Rock who's 15-2 on the year?

 

[PSU210]

 

[NittanyChris]

Interesting

Yup. I whiffed on that one. Curious that SVN slowed his attack rate considerably after he failed to finish some shots in the first. Hopefully he learns from this.

 

[Franklinstheman]

Why does BTN think anyone wants to see a split screen view of Mark Manning during a bout? Please.

They say he does a super impersonation of Steve Martin's My Buttercup

 

[Franklinstheman]

Yup. I whiffed on that one. Curious that SVN slowed his attack rate considerably after he failed to finish some shots in the first. Hopefully he learns from this.

I should have finished with a comment because many of us agreed with you.

 

[a_mshaffer]

Shane is going to be one of our National Champs this season.

I said what I said...

wish there was betting on it as I would take. 100% agree and the cyrstal ball should project this if there was prediction involved

 

[Franklinstheman]

Wasn't Barr supposed to have very limited offense? I thought that was the knock on him.

IDK but damn he reminded me of MM with the endless double blast. Just amazing gas tank.

 

[railbirrd]

LL wrestled great and proved that he is a title contender. His ability to keep his head and wrestle his match in a high stakes situation is Tom Bradyesque. And the athlete that impressed me the most was Kerk. He is just next level when it comes to wrestling through a situation. His instincts are uncanny his speed ridiculous power supernatural. I could feel Nick Lee cross over with Yanni I am not there with Kerk and Gable Stevenson but it is reasonable to believe that Kerk can keep winning situations against Gable. Kerk is wrestling like someone who can win a title against anyone.

A note about last night's Nebraska dual, fyi (not knowing what he weighed in at, Kerk did look to be slimmer than usual to me): "And even though he was fighting off some sickness from earlier in the week, Greg Kerkvliet still piled up Penn State’s third straight bonus point win of the night with a 20-2 technical fall." https://nittanycentral.com/penn-state-wrestling-news-nebraska-full-results/

 

[Chickenman Testa]

IDK but damn he reminded me of MM with the endless double blast. Just amazing gas tank.

And Q with that under hook led attack. He’s hitting the same move Q hit from an under hook multiple times in one of his title matches

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Great night! FUN. Non match funsies:

Was talking with Carter’s dad before the match. I ran into him at a BWW in Tulsa on Friday night and we talked for two hours. Great guy. Last night I said this is the best team I have seen. He said we got some guys who still have to prove it and even those who have proven it have to do it again because somebody else is trying to do that. The attitude permeates everyone associates with the program.

When Coach Casey signed the kids pennants he said “you are going to be able to put this on the internet and sell it for a lot of money.”

I told Beau my son now runs around the house wearing two different shoes because of him. Beau: “but he got same shoes tonight.” My wife: “only at home, not allowed in public!” Beau: “only an idiot would do that!”

Mitchell to my kids “those are some nice tattoos you got.” Son: “they are not tattoos, they are stickers.” Mitchell: “oh…well..either way I like ‘em, maybe I should wear them when I go wrestle.”

Nebraska crowd was great. Friendly as can be. The arena and entire facility are top notch.

Your boy is the spitting image of Cael and Casey