Official PSU - Wisconsin 2021 Game Thread

[psuro]

Wow, the old guy with the beard can really cut the rug! 😉

That’s @Midnighter2.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

That was only one of two in that game….both were worse than Ellis….the other for OSU was called on the field but overturned.

Again, the other huge thing here is that the Minny Player is a "protected player" under the rule (IOW, you're not allowed to hit him in "Head or Neck Area" with any part of your body, let alone leading with your helmet into his head as the duhO$U defender clearly does). The Wisconsin runner was not a "protected player" under the rule, so it is utterly irrelevant how hard Brooks hit him or how it looked relative to duhO$U hit. Under the rule, the PSU defender was entitled to hit him high (i.e., head-&-neck area) as long as it was a legal hit (which in the PSU case is any hit other than one "INITIATED" with the crown of the helmet.). Brooks clearly did not "Initiate the hit with the crown of his helmet" - he FACTUALLY initiated the hit with his shoulder. The duhO$U player struck a "protected player" in the "head & neck" area (in this case intentionally using his helmet to make helmet-to-helmet contact) - ILLEGAL by Rule Definition. So of course, the b1g cheaters ignored a CLEARLY BLATANT ILLEGAL hit by duhO$U to protect them and penalized a CLEARLY LEGAL HIT by PSU in a clear attempt to help Wisconsin (and hurt PSU), but some of the posing b1g douche shills don't see the clear bias in big cheating officiating that these two calls clearly demonstrate.

 

[AWS1022]

Again, the other huge thing here is that the Minny Player is a "protected player" under the rule (IOW, you're not allowed to hit him in "Head or Neck Area" with any part of your body, let alone leading with your helmet into his head as the duhO$U defender clearly does). The Wisconsin runner was not a "protected player" under the rule, so it is utterly irrelevant how hard Brooks hit him or how it looked relative to duhO$U hit. Under the rule, the PSU defender was entitled to hit him high (i.e., head-&-neck area) as long as it was a legal hit (which in the PSU case is any hit other than one "INITIATED" with the crown of the helmet.). Brooks clearly did not "Initiate the hit with the crown of his helmet" - he FACTUALLY initiated the hit with his shoulder. The duhO$U player struck a "protected player" in the "head & neck" area (in this case intentionally using his helmet to make helmet-to-helmet contact) - ILLEGAL by Rule Definition. So of course, the b1g cheaters ignored a CLEARLY BLATANT ILLEGAL hit by duhO$U to protect them and penalized a CLEARLY LEGAL HIT by PSU in a clear attempt to help Wisconsin (and hurt PSU), but some of the posing b1g douche shills don't see the clear bias in big cheating officiating that these two calls clearly demonstrate.

But if PSU had two players do what OSU did it would not have been targeting…..I can’t even keep a straight face typing that. PSU would have both of those players ejected.

 

[palmettolion]

**** the BIG refs.
**** the pevent defense.

Other than that, it's been a pretty nice Saturday.

 

[PSUQBKeeper]

shout out to Brisker for returning his interception out to the 40, those extra yards were huge with how the game ended

 

[okinburg1]

Sounds like the episode of MASH and they were trying to fight the Army red tape to get an Incubator

Cross out machine gun and write in incubator

 

[AWS1022]

shout out to Brisker for returning his interception out to the 40, those extra yards were huge with how the game ended

True, he could have thought that iced the game and went down. I was hoping he ran it all the way back.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Anyone see what Iowa is doing to Indiana today? Playing Iowa could be very scary without an offense.

I think this has more to do with Indiana being exposed that Iowa being world-beaters.

 

[AWS1022]

I think this has more to do with Indiana being exposed that Iowa being world-beaters.

Some teams were negatively impacted by Covid and some were positively impacted….Indiana falls in the latter group.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Cheating b1g bullshit call. It wasn't a "close call" - the Wisonsin QB is not "protected" when he turns himself into a RB. Only "Targetting Penalty" that can possibly be called there is "Spearing" (intentionally using crown of helmet to strike opponent) - you cannot call "Spearring" when the intended, AND ACTUAL, first contact is NOT with the crown of the helmet. Brooks clearly intended to, AND DID, make first contact with Wisconsin runner with his shoulder... and contacted into Wisconsin runner's shoulder despite the Wisconsin player LOWERING HIS HEAD AND LEVEL! After the first contact, Brooks stands the Wisconsin player up (stops him dead - which had to do to prevent 1st down) - as he stands him up, and clearly after 1st contact, the players come face-to-face with their helmets contacting each other primarily Brooks facemask to the front right side of Wisconsin runner's helmet. Again, this is considered incidental contact if it results AFTER first contact. You cannot be called for 'Spearring" if your clear intent, AND ACTUAL, first contact is with your SHOULDER and not the crown of your helmet. You can't "intentionally" INITIATE CONTACT WITH THE CROWN OF YOUR HELMET if you FACTUALLY AND IN REALITY "initiated contact" with your shoulder!!!!

Spot on - NOTHING to disagree with AT ALL here!!

 

[mn78psu83]

Again, the other huge thing here is that the Minny Player is a "protected player" under the rule (IOW, you're not allowed to hit him in "Head or Neck Area" with any part of your body, let alone leading with your helmet into his head as the duhO$U defender clearly does). The Wisconsin runner was not a "protected player" under the rule, so it is utterly irrelevant how hard Brooks hit him or how it looked relative to duhO$U hit. Under the rule, the PSU defender was entitled to hit him high (i.e., head-&-neck area) as long as it was a legal hit (which in the PSU case is any hit other than one "INITIATED" with the crown of the helmet.). Brooks clearly did not "Initiate the hit with the crown of his helmet" - he FACTUALLY initiated the hit with his shoulder. The duhO$U player struck a "protected player" in the "head & neck" area (in this case intentionally using his helmet to make helmet-to-helmet contact) - ILLEGAL by Rule Definition. So of course, the b1g cheaters ignored a CLEARLY BLATANT ILLEGAL hit by duhO$U to protect them and penalized a CLEARLY LEGAL HIT by PSU in a clear attempt to help Wisconsin (and hurt PSU), but some of the posing b1g douche shills don't see the clear bias in big cheating officiating that these two calls clearly demonstrate.

Right you are sir!

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

17 held

He was tackled 2 or 3 times in backfield on Wiscy's last drive, with the standard 95 offensive plays and no holds called on Wiscy. But somehow the jackwagon refs saw 17 with hands to the face of the guy that was tackling him all day...

 

[mn78psu83]

He was tackled 2 or 3 times in backfield on Wiscy's last drive, with the standard 95 offensive plays and no holds called on Wiscy. But somehow the jackwagon refs saw 17 with hands to the face of the guy that was tackling him all day...

Yeah, that was a timely call against PSU. Good grief.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

He was tackled 2 or 3 times in backfield on Wiscy's last drive, with the standard 95 offensive plays and no holds called on Wiscy. But somehow the jackwagon refs saw 17 with hands to the face of the guy that was tackling him all day...

The UW left tackle looked like a calf roper during the last 10 minutes. All he lacked was a short rope to tie the legs up

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

Need to get my BP back down......Wow....what an opening game. Take the W and GTFO there.

Hey, whaddaya think about the nil-nil draw vs. El Salvador?

 

[Pocono Lion]

The kid from Harvard needs to start.

Agree, thought the OL did look better when he came in.

 

[lazydave841]

Agree, thought the OL did look better when he came in.

Did he play most of the second half?

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

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Didn’t even review it to check for targeting, only reviewed the fumble. Meanwhile the wr is knocked out.

Wow, the definition of targeting. Defenseless player, leading with crown of helmet, launching, etc. Oh, forgot the Ohio State exclusion in the rule.

 

[Pocono Lion]

Did he play most of the second half?

I think he did, every time I saw the OL in the 2nd half, #68 was in there.

 

[Midnighter2]

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

I thought it was a close call, even on replay. Helmets definitely hit but Brooks initiated contact with his shoulder.

I think the penalty was called because the hit was so violent. I can understand if the official got caught up with the impact and made the call, but the penalty was called on replay where emotion shouldn't be a factor.

Yet the hit was so violent that Mertz wasn't even knocked down. I'd suggest there has never been a targeting call where the alleged target remained standing.....

 

[BostonNit]

True, he could have thought that iced the game and went down. I was hoping he ran it all the way back.

I was hoping he took it to the house and the rest of the team joined him in the end zone and did Jump Around.

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

Fantastic win. It sucks to have to open the season with an opponent like Wisconsin on the road, but if you come away with the W, it can pay big dividends. Think Indiana last year in reverse. As much as anything, the value in this case is psychological: hey, we can actually win games like this.

Our D is For Real. Three potential All-Americans. On the other side of the ball, the O was horrible in the 1st half, but it was great to see Noah make some big plays in the 2nd half. Showed flashes of his 2019 form before the injury. And guys like Jahan can make QBs having a bad day look good.

The targeting call was bogus. But I've always felt like we'll at least get a fair shot with Jerry McGinn. He made the correct grounding call at the end that pretty much sealed the game. And total penalty calls ended up 7-7.

Jerry et al did miss at least 6 blatant offensive holding calls on Wiscy. 95 plays. No holds.

 

[WestSideLion]

Come on, we’re supposed to score 50+ in every game regardless of who or where we’re playing. It took the team a game and half before they started functioning on offense when Moorehead started, but we saw improvement after only a half with this new OC.

I agree with all you wrote. They bounced back in the second half. Everyone will hope for better in the future. They now have good possibilities to look forward to.

 

[LaJollaLion]

Hey, whaddaya think about the nil-nil draw vs. El Salvador?

Wasn’t thrilled.

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

Stout 7 punts, 53.9 yds average

Have we ever had that?

For 1 game. The 1986 season Fiesta Bowl. John Bruno RIP

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

Mustopher was great today.

He was held more today than in any of his HS wrestling matches.

 

[map-#1]

Congrats on a terrific win! Beat Auburn and the Big 10 Title will be in your crosshairs.

Not happening pal —October 30

 

[Connorpozlee]

Thanks, seems pretty clear to be the worst than what Ellis did!

That didn’t look like targeting to me, if I understand the rule correctly. And God knows I probably don’t understand the rule correctly (because if I did, there is no reasonable way they could have tossed Brooks from the game today). This play looked like contact was not made with the crown of the helmet.

 

[Jerry]

Jerry et al did miss at least 6 blatant offensive holding calls on Wiscy. 95 plays. No holds.

I'll take the game Jerry and his crew called. It wasn't perfect, but neither was it blatantly biased. And at the end, he made the correct call...even though it killed the home team.

McGinn's roots are in the Big East. He's not a B1G guy and doesn't bring conference politics to the job. It shows. I'd be happy for him to call all our games.

 

[WyomingLion]

I'll take the game Jerry and his crew called. It wasn't perfect, but neither was it blatantly biased. And at the end, he made the correct call...even though it killed the home team.

McGinn's roots are in the Big East. He's not a B1G guy and doesn't bring conference politics to the job. It shows. I'd be happy for him to call all our games.

Well he and his crew need to brush up on holding because the UW left tackle got away with murder in an attempt to keep UW in the game. Obvious calls.

 

[troutrus]

Gotta love good defense.

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

BWI board after Clifford went under center.

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How do I give this 1,000 likes for each of the virgins that Yurcich deserves for doing this? And PSURO as well....

 

[Parkland Fan]

Stout 7 punts, 53.9 yds average

Have we ever had that?

Plus there was no run back on most kicks

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

shout out to Brisker for returning his interception out to the 40, those extra yards were huge with how the game ended

Especially since Pry played Prevent Winning D, allowing 30 yards in 8 seconds on first 2 plays final drive. Pathetic.

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

Wasn’t thrilled.

Agreed, better than a loss, but a W was there for the taking. Beat Canucks tomorrow.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

I'll take the game Jerry and his crew called. It wasn't perfect, but neither was it blatantly biased. And at the end, he made the correct call...even though it killed the home team.

McGinn's roots are in the Big East. He's not a B1G guy and doesn't bring conference politics to the job. It shows. I'd be happy for him to call all our games.

I agree with you. I generally think he does a good job. Maybe not so much today, but he’s definitely better than the typical part time insurance salesmen (full time crooks) from Flint or Westerville that usually ref these games

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

Well he and his crew need to brush up on holding because the UW left tackle got away with murder in an attempt to keep UW in the game. Obvious calls.

Thought the 2 punt return interference calls were sketchy at best as well.

 

[YeOldeCup]

Especially since Pry played Prevent Winning D, allowing 30 yards in 8 seconds on first 2 plays final drive. Pathetic.

Alone in my mancave, my wife shouted down and asked if I was OK after my very vocal (almost physical) reactions to both of those (obvious) quick out plays...

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Especially since Pry played Prevent Winning D, allowing 30 yards in 8 seconds on first 2 plays final drive. Pathetic.

Yea, but Wisconsin was still a long way from the goal line.... and how many yards did he give up over the next minute???