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The funniest Beverly Hillbillies was when Mr. Drysdale needed a ringer for a company skeet shooting event. He mentioned it to Jed and he said Grannie was pretty good.

Grannie shot like Annie Oakley
My funniest Beverly Hillbillies scene below, about Lafe Crick.

  • Jed Clampett: Jethro, I reckon we gotta let Granny blow off that head of steam she built up over Lafe Crick or she's gonna be sputterin' and hissin' like that for weeks.
  • Jethro Bodine: I reckon it'd pleasure her a heap to cut loose and speak her mind.
  • Jed Clampett: Granny, what do you think of Lafe Crick?
  • Daisy Moses: Why he is the laziest, no-account varmint that ever drawed a breath!
  • Jethro Bodine: Go Granny, go.
  • Daisy Moses: Why the only hard work that he ever done was to turn over in bed! He can get up in the mornin' with nothin' to do and by nightfall, it's only half done!
  • Jed Clampett: That's it, Granny, mean mouth him good.
  • Daisy Moses: His woman does all the work over at their place. And the only time she ever got him out in the field, she had to sharpen the stump so he couldn't set down!
  • Jed Clampett: Blow the lid off, Granny, let her fly.
  • Daisy Moses: The only nickle he ever earned was when his Pa paid him 2 bits to stay away from the house! Why he would whitewash his own Ma and rent her out to haunt houses! Why, he's so lazy, even his scarecrows have to set in a chair! You talk about a liar, why that Lafe Crick wouldn't know the truth if he stepped on it bare-footed!
 
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FYI. I have never read Brothers Karamazov, so feel free to start reading that door stopper.
And when you are done with that:
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This is the main problem. Remember colleges have high fixed costs. Fewer students hits them right in the bottom line.


If they want more students make college less expensive by making students only needing to take courses, they need. As an engineer, I could have graduated with 1/2 the courses. I did not need college to make me well rounded. Sure, a lot of professors are going to lose their jobs but why should an engineer pay for the theater class professor.
 
If they want more students make college less expensive by making students only needing to take courses, they need. As an engineer, I could have graduated with 1/2 the courses. I did not need college to make me well rounded. Sure, a lot of professors are going to lose their jobs but why should an engineer pay for the theater class professor.
My GPA would have been 4.0. Not 3.23
 
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If they want more students make college less expensive by making students only needing to take courses, they need. As an engineer, I could have graduated with 1/2 the courses. I did not need college to make me well rounded. Sure, a lot of professors are going to lose their jobs but why should an engineer pay for the theater class professor.

i find that people who say things like "i did not need college to make me well rounded" are exactly the types of people that require the most rounding
 
If they want more students make college less expensive by making students only needing to take courses, they need. As an engineer, I could have graduated with 1/2 the courses. I did not need college to make me well rounded. Sure, a lot of professors are going to lose their jobs but why should an engineer pay for the theater class professor.
I'm an engineer too, and the 12 credits of humanities cost me less than the redundancies built into the engineering curriculum. And a few years ago I told Karen Thole that PSU could develop a 3-yr degree by eliminating those overlaps.

But PSU can do little about either, so long as there is only one US accreditation agency and it holds a monopolistic death grip on curricula.
 
i find that people who say things like "i did not need college to make me well rounded" are exactly the types of people that require the most rounding
You would be wrong. I grew up in the air force and moved a lot. And when I say a lot, 16 houses in 16 years (sometimes we moved a house on the same base). FL (3) locations, Mi, PA (4) TX (3) CA (3) and NJ. City to farm.
 
If they want more students make college less expensive by making students only needing to take courses, they need. As an engineer, I could have graduated with 1/2 the courses. I did not need college to make me well rounded. Sure, a lot of professors are going to lose their jobs but why should an engineer pay for the theater class professor.


Are you kidding? How can you live without knowing what a "jump cut" and "iris in" or "iris out" is, courtesy of Film 180 The Art of Cinema?

And then there was the intro psychology course that had this gem on the final.

It has been said that neurotics build castles in the sky and psychotics live in them. It therefore follows:

A. Multiple Guess Answer No. 1 I forgot.
B. Multiple Guess Answer No. 2 I forgot.
C. Multiple Guess Answer No. 3 I forgot
D. Professor Mckinstry should collect the rent from the psychotics.

And imagine all the cool stuff you learn about today. Gender fluidity, toxic masculinity, male supremacy. It's a veritable cornucopia of polishing to make you so round you're a perfect (hollow) sphere.

And with tuition being a mere $18,000 a semester, you can rest easy know that the professorate (plus the deans, provosts and other academic bureaucrats) gets to live in gated communities and you merely have to have a debit from PHEAA every month for years to keep these nice folks in the sort of abode they richly deserve.

However in all seriousness, the birth rate which was trending suddenly acquired a negative second derivative in about 2008. And here we are, two years away from the army of the never born.

For me, I'm sad. Colleges not being publicly traded; I won't be able to short them the way Michael Burry did with mortgages. Perhaps there's a synthetic short, but I haven't quite figured out what that would be.
 
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I'm an engineer too, and the 12 credits of humanities cost me less than the redundancies built into the engineering curriculum. And a few years ago I told Karen Thole that PSU could develop a 3-yr degree by eliminating those overlaps.

But PSU can do little about either, so long as there is only one US accreditation agency and it holds a monopolistic death grip on curricula.

Here's the redeeming thing about those "redundancies",

in consequential majors such as engineering, aviation or nursing; they go a long way to following the Purler Wrestling Model of not training until you get it right, but until you can't get it wrong.
 
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i find that people who say things like "i did not need college to make me well rounded" are exactly the types of people that require the most rounding

Let's be honest about this-what was once considered a well-rounded person was a person who has some familiarity with classic literature, mathematics, some basic science, history (if not majoring it) and those things were designed to whet your appetite for life-long learning.

We know that colleges and universities haven't been providing those sorts of ancillary topic in the degree requirements. The late Allan Bloom wrote The Closing of the American Mind in 1987. Mean to be a cautionary tale, it's being pushed to the extreme.

I'm not sure this student is "well rounded", except for that skinny neck and bowl-shaped hair.

 
Let's be honest about this-what was once considered a well-rounded person was a person who has some familiarity with classic literature, mathematics, some basic science, history (if not majoring it) and those things were designed to whet your appetite for life-long learning.

We know that colleges and universities haven't been providing those sorts of ancillary topic in the degree requirements. The late Allan Bloom wrote The Closing of the American Mind in 1987. Mean to be a cautionary tale, it's being pushed to the extreme.

I'm not sure this student is "well rounded", except for that skinny neck and bowl-shaped hair.

There is a lot of truth to being a well rounded student being a benefit for society. By well rounded do we mean having knowledge of history, civics or great literature? Or is it taking completely unnecessary classes? An example of the latter, my daughter is an occupational therapist, no idea how being required to take a physics class helps her teach a kid with autism how to get dressed. Physics is kind of pushing the "well rounded" narrative.

In Europe, their University curriculums are often 1 year shorter than the USA simply because they are not taking many of the unnecessary classes.
 
There is a lot of truth to being a well rounded student being a benefit for society. By well rounded do we mean having knowledge of history, civics or great literature? Or is it taking completely unnecessary classes? An example of the latter, my daughter is an occupational therapist, no idea how being required to take a physics class helps her teach a kid with autism how to get dressed. Physics is kind of pushing the "well rounded" narrative.

In Europe, their University curriculums are often 1 year shorter than the USA simply because they are not taking many of the unnecessary classes.

Well that gets to the heart of the question: Do you become "rounded" by having sitting in a class that's unrelated to your major/career path?

And what is your career path?

Perfect example:

I recently looked up my first college roommate on LI. (A complete ass at the time, my room phone was on second level restriction-no calls in or out except to the emergency number because he wouldn't pay his phone bill from his prior semester-all while spending money to see the grateful dead or some other group).

Penn State Engineering degree-foreign MBA. After working in the automotive industry non-engineering, then a tech firm non engineering, went to a management position in public schools, but is now listed as a working in strategic planning and consulting for the past decade and a half.

Do you became more "rounded" by having some patched elbow lecture you in a class? I don't think so.
 
I feel the same at 133. Also think 125 is a big match for both guys..Peterson is like Jekyle and Hyde and I favor Luke, but wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't. Rest of the dual is all PSU
@pish69 Enough of this wrestling talk. I just want to hear your reply to the accusation of you wearing "flower printed panties". I have grown to where I can put up with Cstroke's tighty whities, but the thought of you in flower printed panties has left me in a severe state of dejection and despair!

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Watched it last night with my wife who is also a huge wrestling fan. When it came to the NCAA’s in Philly she pointed to my sweat shirt. I was wearing a 2011 National Champions sweat shirt. The first of many that I buy almost every year down at Rapid Transit on S. Allen. I probably have 12-13 hats …. so many that the people in our little town of 60 call me the Wrestling Hat guy.
I get my shirts at Rapid Transit also and I buy multiple shirts with the championship and year on them. Then I give them out to friends and family members as birthday or Christmas gifts.
 
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Watched it last night with my wife who is also a huge wrestling fan. When it came to the NCAA’s in Philly she pointed to my sweat shirt. I was wearing a 2011 National Champions sweat shirt. The first of many that I buy almost every year down at Rapid Transit on S. Allen. I probably have 12-13 hats …. so many that the people in our little town of 60 call me the Wrestling Hat guy.
You just reminded me - I have a Penn State National Champions shirt from 2011 too!
 
That took me back to my childhood when we had a coal furnace.
I remember some hike we did in the AT in coal country where the side trail down to our parking rendezvous was essentially down a slag heap. We went from a wooded ridge line to a moonscape
 
Point taken. Our method when we had sheet ice was to take a garden spade and shatter the ice like shattering peanut brittle - and then using the trusty snow shovel.

Good times
When I was living in WA state, I tried using a weed burner to see if I could melt the snow in my driveway. Turns out you need a lot more heat than they put out and they make a pretty big flame!
 
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Did they get those "snow " shovels from an abandoned coal mine from Ehrenfeld, PA?. They look like Buchinsky specials. You locals will get it!
Only someone who has a real death wish. 😁
 
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I remember some hike we did in the AT in coal country where the side trail down to our parking rendezvous was essentially down a slag heap. We went from a wooded ridge line to a moonscape
This reminds me of the movie, October Sky, which I really enjoyed.
 
Did they get those "snow " shovels from an abandoned coal mine from Ehrenfeld, PA?. They look like Buchinsky specials. You locals will get it!
Funny. I worked at the same place as Charles (Buchinsky) Bronson's brother. Bronson visited the plant a couple of times. I was working the 4-12:30 shift and missed him. My brother......who is 5' 8" met him. He said he was really short :)
 
Funny. I worked at the same place as Charles (Buchinsky) Bronson's brother. Bronson visited the plant a couple of times. I was working the 4-12:30 shift and missed him. My brother......who is 5' 8" met him. He said he was really short :)
My favorite Charles Bronson movie was ' Hard Times ' with James Coburn. Charles's wife Jill Ireland was also in the movie. I worked at the UA theater on the Golden strip in Loyalsock Twp, and would always go in and watch the fight scene with Big Jim in the cage. Great depression era movie.
 
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