I agree. I'm basing my hope on one simple fact. There is no way Hugo, murin, young or Warner finish up to seed. No way that happens unless they are extremely lucky. Thag along with when the opportunity presented itself.to score a simple major when almost there but chose to ride out speaks to the overall Iowa mentality for years. Just win. I'm betting the points they are predicted to score will actually be half. Most predictions are based on seeds. Not happening.
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You have to look at the competition at those weights. IMO Murin is definitely behind Pletcher, Nick Lee, Demas and Red. McKee and Woods would have a slight advantage and then you have Moran and Heil who Murin has already beat this year. Max is ranked #9 on InterMat so he is a fringe AA/R12 type. Probably where he will be seeded, 8 or 9. Lugo is 3 right now behind Lewallen and Sasso. He beat O’Connor and Degen who are 4 and 6. He gets Brayton Lee in a few weeks and Lewallen after that. This weight is very evenly matched so saying Lugo would have to be extremely lucky seems unfair. Young is 5 behind Deakin, Hidlay, Carr and Monday. He lost to Carr and Monday already. Behind him is Dellavecchia, Coleman, Humphreys, Lewan, and Jacques. He’s beat Coleman twice this year. Who of these remaining guys do you see as sure fire to beat him? Warner is 7 behind Moore, Adams, Brucki, Darmstadt, Traxler, and Schultz. He’s 1-1 against Brucki and lost 3-1 to Schultz on a last second takedown. Say he’s seeded 5-7. Below him are Brunner, Aiello, Laird, and Geer. He beat Brunner handily and lost to Aiello in SV. I would rank Lugo, Young, Warner, and then Murin as far as chance to AA and the first 3 have already done it.
I agree with your analogy to a point. I just don't see the heart in the guys like the rest. Murin maybe he just isn't all that offensive. When it comes to bonus points you need to go get it and I don't see it. I'm not saying they won't win I'm just saying when you get to nationals and are winning by a point or two it comes down to who wants it more and guys end up losing those close matches. We shall see. I don't want to demean their accomplishments I just haven't seen the go getter mentality that is required to make a deep run unless your lucky like Heil for three years lol
You may be right. If bonus points are the difference then it’s gonna be Spencer, Desanto, Marinelli, and Cassioppi getting those early. Well Spencer will get his pretty much all the time.
Kemerer will get some too. I just believe with Iowa’s depth, these 4 just need to survive and advance. Most importantly, they need to make a run in the consis if they happen to lose early. If that happens there’s really not much of a path for Penn St when you figure 125 and 157 will probably not score any and 149 will score minimal. But that’s why the wrestle the matches. Looking forward to the next 6 weeks leading up to nationals and seeing how everything plays out.Kinda nice having a civil conversation about wrestling who woulda thought lol Freaking Roar wearing off on me. lol. Going to be a fun time at BIGs and nat's. Best of luckYou may be right. If bonus points are the difference then it’s gonna be Spencer, Desanto, Marinelli, and Cassioppi getting those early. Well Spencer will get his pretty much all the time.
The reason? Other then the Ref was a complete joke homer???
Ref allowed him to do it a 2nd time (and was going to give RBY nothing), but then it was pointed out to the Ref that AD had to Forfeit because he had no more injury time (the Ref clearly did not realize the implications of his call when he lamely, and pathetically, attempted to bail Desanto out a second time).
Back does not need to be exposed to meet criteria of the rule (a "legal pinning combination" has to be locked, which it was, and offensive wrestler moving defensive wrestler with locked pinning combination, which RBY was doing). The Ref didn't even give RBY 2 points for TD! That tells you everything you need to know about the Ref's intentions (rules be damned). No way on earth the Ref should have stopped the match there with no PD Hold in place - not even remotely close - especially without giving RBY the TD (which he clearly had) and enacting the rule referenced!
Ludicrous to claim that all anyone has to do to avoid a 6-point move by their opponent (and face potentially being pinned) is tell the ref their injured... and the Ref just restarts the match 0-0 as if the move never occurred. Just complete bullshit that only an Iowa fan could claim - the rule is in place to avoid this precise situation where the defensive wrestler can simply claim injury to avoid giving up points and potentially being pinned - not to mention a restart with a 0-0 score!!!
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Sorochinsky is one of the best refs in college wrestling. He's also Jeff Byers favorite referee: http://board.themat.com/index.php?/...at-was-happening/&tab=comments#comment-135182
The funny thing about this is: when Jammen posts a link, it's almost always to another post of his.
Everybody knows this and doesn't need to click on the link.
Same thing to me. Did see a slight limp, but DeSanto was able to leave the mat extremely quickly, walking very rapidly for someone supposedly unable to continue wrestling due to a knee injury. The whole thing definitely did not look or feel quite right.
At the press conference, Tom Brands seemed to think DeSanto panicked and, if they could've gotten him calmed down, he could've continued. Couldn't help contrasting DeSanto's hysterical reaction Friday night to the way Nolf handled his knee injury situation vs VanBrill in the Rutgers dual a couple years ago.
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Read brands after match interview. He seemed to indicate that desanto reacted emotionally and probBly could have finished the match. Think desanto realized he was in over his head and didn't want none of it
Any Penn State twitter post and there’s a stalker Iowa fan. Then you check out their feed and it’s filled with moronic political paranoia.
And they wonder why the Penn State Wrestling account blocks them
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