I felt the same way. We had holes up and down the lineup. Have faith in our coach, but he has to really work his magic this year.
PSU vs. Penn Discussion Thread
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Not sure what you mean by "let him up in SV"? SV is a Neutral-Only Period - First points scored wins. Did you mean the TB periods (didn't see match only know what I read on here... thought someone posted that BB won with a TD in SV.).
he won by a point as penn went optional start in the ride out period after BB held him down in first ride out
I was a little disappointed Bartlett did not initiate much offense because what he needs to be successful is there. However, Bartlett was the one taking ground and moving forward. The Penn kid wasn't taking anything more than half hearted shots, and Beau would chase him a circle as he retreated.
I was never sitting there thinking come on get going they are going to hit you with a stall. I was thinking, good God take a couple real shots. You can take this kid down anytime you want.
Yea, that's the TB Period. The TB Periods come after SV. They are 30 seconds long.... a coin is flipped and the winner of the flip gets to choose Top, Bottom or Defer. Given what you are describing, it sounds like BB won the flip after SV ended tied and choose Top for first TB Period... After being ridden out, UP wrestler choose Optional Optional Start Position and to release Beau.
I have already posted
RBY
Lee
Bartlett
Starocci
Brooks
Dean/Beard
Kerkvliet
Will score enough to win the title.
This year 7 point scorers will be enough, plus we may have an 8th with Hildebrandt.
Close - The Penn wrestler won the toss and picked bottom and Bartlett rode him the whole 30 seconds and then Bartlett chose bottom the Penn wrestler let him out immediately after the optional start. My guess is the Penn wrestler was obviously exhausted and thought his chances of a take down was better than a ride out in his fatigued condition so he went optional start and let Beau out immediately and the rest is history..
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I mean we’re seeing first hand in Max Dean that some are just folk specialists, they love being on the mat. Rob Koll himself said on Baschamania, Max is NOT a good freestyler, said he gets lost in scrambles that can result in points in free and doesn’t realize it.
Your first sentence has me more confused than less..... If Penn wrestler won toss and chose bottom, then Beau was on top and it couldn't possibly have been "...and Bartlett got out about halfway through." (i.e., the 2nd-half of your first sentence).
Beau rode him the whole 30. The Penn wrestler then allowed Beau to get up right at the beginning of the next period because he felt more confident trying to get a take down than riding Beau out. Bartlett‘s conditioning was phenomenal in the match. Totally wore down a guy who looked like a better wrestler for much of the match.
Some of this almost has to be intentional, but anyway:
Yes, TB periods, starting 3-3
Penn chose bottom. Beau rode him out. (still 3-3)
Beau chose bottom, Penn cut him (E1, 4-3) to go for the takedown instead of the rideout to keep it tied, didn't get it, Beau wins 4-3
Your right, I worded that pretty confusing but fixed it above. Other posters have already pointed out that after the Penn wrestler picked bottom he was ridden out for the full 30 seconds and then Beau picked bottom for the second TB period and the Penn wrestler let him up after the optional start..
Was going to say that it would be an extremely unusual move to win toss and take Top (or even to Defer decision which is the other thing that could explain Penn wrestler selecting Bottom off a Bartlett flip win.). Anyway, I got it now.... 2 minute SV ended scoreless. Penn wrestler wins toss and choses Down in top-half of TB Periods. Bartlett rides him out. Bartlett on Bottom bottom-half of TB Periods. Penn wrestler chooses Optional Starting Position and releases Beau immediately and rest of TB ends scoreless.
I’ve often thought part of the reason our guys look so good at Nationals is that they tend to not be as big weight cutters as some others. I wonder if that will work to BB’s benefit when applicable this year and I wonder if last night was applicable.
I think it's agreed upon that Bartlett isn't super small for 149 anymore, he just doesn't have the reach for it, which limits his offense.
I think our guys are good at nationals because our coaches just know how to peak for it, both physically and mentally.
Luke Pletcher didn't have much reach but he was pretty effective. I agree that certain attacks would be more difficult for Beau (like straight on doubles for example) but I think he'll adapt and find a way to be more aggressive offensively as the season goes on.
Like I said, Beau has 1 takedown in 3 wins this year against NQ level opponents. He's won twice due to savvy mat riding. He never panics, even when he gives up the first takedown (Artalona), gives up a minute plus of riding time (Crooks) or when he has a stall call going into SV (Ogunsanya)
The kid has a Cenzo level coolness to him that I love. None of his matches against solid opponents will be pretty this year but there's a reason he's out there already as our 149 rather than in redshirt waiting to see if maybe Van Ness is a better option.
Often times compact, powerful wrestlers do very well with the deep single-leg stepping up into a Fireman's Carry Roll.
....or Hi-C to Fireman's Carry Dump.
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Ball was runner up at 195 not even 181. I dont think he was cutting any weight and was noticeably smaller than the champ from Northern York who was in the same district. Ball beat him once during the season. I dont recall when.
I've always thought Beau was like a mini Cenzo out there from his mannerisms to his build.
Especially when facing another team's backup.
Ball also beat UNC NQ Max Shaw at Hershey to make the finals. So fair to say Ball is a potential D1 starter at many other schools.
Ball went 0-4 vs. Swartz that year but all were very close: 6-4, 5-4, 10-9 TB, and 7-5 SV.
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