Clearly, Murin not only leads by example but leads with his face ... I don't know if I've ever seen a wrestler who looks worse after every tournament!
Next year?
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Should have seen John Fritz after his NCAA title. Looks like he went 15 rounds with Sugar Ray Leonard and Leonard never let up..
I know that wasn't what Fritz looked like after every tournament, but Murin just wrestled 6 matches in 3 days against the best 33 wrestlers in the country at his weight. Since Max is a mauler and brawler, I woukd expect him to look like that. That is a picture of a young man who certainly wanted it, and got after it to get it.
We should create a thread of dudes that put it all out there like this...
Another pic was Pantaleo after wrestling Zane..
Another pic was Pantaleo after wrestling Zane..
Some guys have a head start, ugly before the tourney starts.
I don't want to start a new thread, so I'll post my idea here.
RULE CHANGES FOR 2024 ??
One thing that irked me to no end is how this tie breaker rideout / stallout period was playing out in both B1Gs & NCAA tourney.
I don't mind the stall out for wrestlebacks or duals, but there seems to be both (1) an element of luck with the toss and (2) some gamesmanship with riding / stalling / ride for 5 seconds and drive out-of-bounds / having 2nd choice.
My 2024 Rule Change: While in the championship bracket, if no winner occurs after 2:00 sudden death, let the wrestlers keep wrestling 2:00 sudden death periods from a neutral start.
Let the OT go for ten 2:00 periods if it has to be. It is a more pure method of determining the winner than flipping a disk.
RULE CHANGES FOR 2024 ??
One thing that irked me to no end is how this tie breaker rideout / stallout period was playing out in both B1Gs & NCAA tourney.
I don't mind the stall out for wrestlebacks or duals, but there seems to be both (1) an element of luck with the toss and (2) some gamesmanship with riding / stalling / ride for 5 seconds and drive out-of-bounds / having 2nd choice.
My 2024 Rule Change: While in the championship bracket, if no winner occurs after 2:00 sudden death, let the wrestlers keep wrestling 2:00 sudden death periods from a neutral start.
Let the OT go for ten 2:00 periods if it has to be. It is a more pure method of determining the winner than flipping a disk.
after two 2 minute OT periods, then simply take the first step out as a loser (implement the fs rules)... however, a stall should be called - most likely - if they make it that far..
I agree with your concern about the rideout periods. The issue with your solution is that there are three positions in wrestling - neutral, top, and bottom, and the current system incorporates skill in all three positions in the OT format, not just neutral. It's fine to have the neutral OT first, but if a guy who is known as a top specialist is wrestling a neutral specialist, I don't like the OT format putting one at a disadvantage based on only incorporating one of the three skills.
I think a better solution would be to make the TB periods longer (maybe 1:00 instead of 0:30) making it harder to ride an entire TB period, force guys to alternate down and up instead of having a neutral option, and get rid of the riding time criteria. Then, just keep alternating SV and TB cycles until someone is ahead at the end of one of the them. If it gets to TB-5 or something, eventually fatigue is going to determine the outcome. If hockey players can play 5 OT playoff games, surely wrestlers at the highest level of the sport can endure multiple OTs.
I swear that psugo acts as if someone pays him $20 every time Howard comes up on the board and he post, definitively, that he is done.
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Kasak hasn’t been around 133 in many years , doubt that cut . I think he’ll replace BB in a few years , Kasak will be a star imo
The problem is that it's obviously possible that Howard would reinjure it and end up not starting. Then he'll go on a self-congratulatory tour and tell everyone, "see, I told you so". Anyone could make wild predictions and then pat themselves on the back for the few that they get right, while ignoring the ones that they got wrong. Howard has suggested himself that he intends to be back and expects to be back. I'll take his word for it and pray that he does in fact make it back and achieves every goal he's ever set for himself.
I loved the post on GIA where a guy said he could respect Ferrari more than Carter because Ferrari was a real douche and Carter was faking it
Very good. He beat Sealey at WNO this past year. Flo has him as the number 1 recruit for his year
I was speaking on the youngest brother. Anthony, the middle brother is who just committed to Iowa. He’s good as well but has a lot of question marks. Court case pending as well
I am OK with that. Iowa and wrestling room drama has become a norm. Besides, where else could they go to learn the push'em out, push'em out, till they get hit with a stall style?
If the big one can stay out of jail, and combined with the little one and several other kids the Hawks have enough points to stay on the team podium which keeps the twins around. Plus going to Iowa eliminates them as serious individual title contenders which means less serious competition for PSU kids.
I agree with your suggestion of "forcing each wrestler to wrestle in the top and bottom position" rather than being able to chose neutral if they have rode the entire 30 seconds. Another possibility is if the wrestler has rode the entire 30 seconds in OT and then decides to chose "neutral" then that 3rd period is 1:00 minute rather than 30 seconds. The other situation I get tired of seeing is when then wrestler touches the edge of the mat out of bounds or puts their foot on the floor area outside the mat. For Pete's sake have an extra section of mat out there so that doesn't happen. And of course finally, how about some penalty for throwing bricks ...so many of which are thrown for strategic purposes ..i.e. getting a 'lunger'. Maybe a match point or choice of position?
Per my pals over at 34 and Counting (forever - my edit) one Anthony Vincent Ferrari has a blind plea scheduled for April 11, 2023, for an assault and battery charge that occurred on July 21, 2022. So this is NOT AJ but not sure how many brothers there are TBH.
Really don't want to see AJ wrestling anywhere, but if it's going to be somewhere it's gonna be Iowa now and that would be my 2nd choice.
And as far as Anthony, it's a great start to get him in that program as well.
Nothing but downside as far as I can see, and now I don't have to add a new team to my root against column.
Woo hoo!
And as far as Anthony, it's a great start to get him in that program as well.
Nothing but downside as far as I can see, and now I don't have to add a new team to my root against column.
Woo hoo!
If you intentionally touch off the mat, it should be fleeing for 1 point.
According the hr board Ferrari's are cleared of all wrong doing ,move a long nothing to see here. Smells of desperation.
Nuttin to see here, but look at them roid abusing peddos overthere.
Or, simply, go back to the rules from the 70s. Three one minute periods, sort of a mini-match. No "sudden death". Have a panel of three judges matside who, in the event of a tie, pick the wrestler who was more aggressive and/or carried the action over the 10 minutes.
And may Howard then come here and take a victory lap at Guns' expense.
PS: Robbie, nobody here believes him either.
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Following the Downey precedent -- commit first, get in later (maybe).
1. Emphasize that stalling will be called if you hang out on the edge of the mat( The Hidlay Rule ).
2. A stall call must be made on one of the wrestlers in a scoreless 1st period.
3. If you throw a brick and lose the call your wrestler is penalized 1 point. I am really sick of coaches throwing bricks just to give the wrestler a break!!
2. A stall call must be made on one of the wrestlers in a scoreless 1st period.
3. If you throw a brick and lose the call your wrestler is penalized 1 point. I am really sick of coaches throwing bricks just to give the wrestler a break!!
It was always a bit hard for me to dislike a guy from friggin' Ebensburg, even if he wrestled at Iowa.If you watched Max Murin walk off after his last match you would have seen some one with no quit. He literally had to be helped into the tunnel. He looked like he survived a train wreck. That is a team mate that gave his all. He had already AA'd but still kept wrestling. Spencer checked out. Enough said.
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