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Penn State - Ohio State Dual Thread

Nope. Was a MD (19-9) for Snyder over Nevills on 3 Feb 2017. Dominating win for Snyder, but not a TF.
You are right. It was 19-9 last year. I thought Cap teched Nick last year. Oh well. Each had an objective and the one in the blue and white got his job done.
 
That was the Super Bowl.

I live in Philly, but nothing can top that performance tonight. Dual win streak alive and intact. All four national champs won. Gutsy performances by everyone. And, frankly, the drama through the final match had everyone still in their seats. Damn.
 
Nope. Tim Johnson and BTN were wrong about that. Shocking, I know.

The first few tie-breaking criteria (number of matches won, number of pins/defaults, etc) were all pushes after a Snyder win. The next tie-breaking criterion was number of match points. After 197, PSU had 84 match points to 72 for tOSU. Thus Snyder needed to win by 13 points for tOSU to win the dual.

Since BTN and Byers both erroneously said that a major by Snyder would result in a tOSU win, it seems like there needs to be a better means of keeping track of and reporting tie-breaking criteria. I certainly would have been less concerned during the late stages of the 285 match had the commentators had it right.

Taking it a step further, had Bo not scored those last two nf points, Snyder would have needed a major for tOSU to win the dual.
 
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It does not show up in the scoring, but I feel it makes a statement:


Zain
Joseph
Hall
Bo
Cassar

All ended their wins with a dominating ride or turn as the clock rolled to 0:00.

Hayes
Campbell
BoJo
MyMar
Moore

All ended their days on their backs or flattened out as the clock hit 0:00.
 
Per Flo, and it could be wrong "Snyder need(ed) to win by 13 or more for Ohio State to win on tiebreaker. "
Should I have been more specific and said a 13 point major or a tech fall minus 2? My point was he did not need a tech.
 
Nope. Tim Johnson and BTN were wrong about that. Shocking, I know.

The first few tie-breaking criteria (number of matches won, number of pins/defaults, etc) were all pushes after a Snyder win. The next tie-breaking criterion was number of match points. After 197, PSU had 84 match points to 72 for tOSU. Thus Snyder needed to win by 13 points for tOSU to win the dual.
Gotcha....yeah, my info was from the BTN broadcast...thanks.
 
That was absolutely the most fun you can have with your clothes on. I don't remember it being that loud when Zain beat Steiber.

Looking back,for me, it was over when Martin laid his head on the mat and said "no mas". I love that his quit, and subsequent stalling points ended up being the difference.
 
Its almost 1am.

The Buckeye team bus/train hasn’t left State College yet.


Somewhere inside Rec Hall, Bo Jordan is still stuck on bottom under Mark Hall.

I feel like Mark has been refusing to cut guys all year to specifically work on his ride. Tonight it seemed like he was doing all of that work to specifically prepare for Bo Jordan. Last year he couldn't ride him and couldn't get out from underneath him. Last night he had no problem doing either.
 
Last year he couldn't ride him and couldn't get out from underneath him.

I remember Hall having a pretty good ride against Jordan at the Big Ten tournament. He had trouble getting out from underneath him for sure.
 
It does not show up in the scoring, but I feel it makes a statement:


Zain
Joseph
Hall
Bo
Cassar

All ended their wins with a dominating ride or turn as the clock rolled to 0:00.

Hayes
Campbell
BoJo
MyMar
Moore

All ended their days on their backs or flattened out as the clock hit 0:00.
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I have similar thoughts on the night. To me, we are closer to reversing the the close ones than they.

OSU's 1 point wins came with Pletcher and McKenna hanging on at the end.

Our close wins came with Hall and Cassar in control.
 
Context. Great job by Nevills, but Snyder needed to win by 13 points to pull out the dual for tOSU. That's a tall order, even for him. The one lift he tried was ill-advised and led to an easy TD for Nevills. Again, nice job by Nevills, but it wasn't a normal match for Snyder.
Being honest, Snyder knew going into the match he had to win by 13 and when he gave up the initial TD to Nick he then knew the takedown cut him game was not going to work. He had to go for a big move.

Too bad Nick did not stick him. Imagine that.

Any truth to the rumor that Nick was wearing green under his singlet? You know a little bit of kryptonite.
 
Can't even begin to put this into words. I don't know how loud it was when Zain beat Stieber, but I can't imagine it being any louder than that.

My wife was taking video of the last fifteen seconds or so of Nevills match. We were in east side SRO, and when Snyder took that last shot and Nevills sprawled, you can see Nickal taking about a 50 inch leap into the air.

Not only did the crowd not leave for Nevills (obviously), but lots more people than normal were just hanging around afterwards, reveling in the afterglow.

The clock in the Nevills match appeared to be standing still.

Outstanding individual performances, leading to one team goal. If you start talking about one, it just leads you to, "Yeah, but what about...?" And, then, "But, what about..." The casual fan thought this was a great match, but those who follow this team know that the backstories make it go so much deeper.

My voice is going to take a couple of days to fully come back.

Oh, one final thing...as good as it was, it still wasn't enough to dislodge this stone.
 
Re watching the match now...Watching casey just fling the challenge brick in the nevills match was hilarious.....

Casey is a bad maaaaaan!
Casey is hilarious. Even when shooting the shit and he seems so easy going, if you are paying attention there is a strong underlying intensity. Jason Nolf like.

After tossing that brick and not reversing that challenge, didn't you catch yourself wondering "what the phuck were those two clowns looking at?" Nick never got off all fours and Captain never lost contact with him.

Why do you think Penn State struggles to find officials that are up to the task?
 
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Since BTN and Byers both erroneously said that a major by Snyder would result in a tOSU win, it seems like there needs to be a better means of keeping track of and reporting tie-breaking criteria. I certainly would have been less concerned during the late stages of the 285 match had the commentators had it right.

Taking it a step further, had Bo not scored those last two nf points, Snyder would have needed a major for tOSU to win the dual.
There needs to be a better broadcast team on BTN
 
One point victory.
Kuhn wrestles his ass off and saves a minimum of 1 point.
Zain has a pretty decent wrestler who was obviously trained to limit the damage and he gets the tech.
Bo Pipher gets teched, but not pinned.
Cenzo nearly splatters Campbell's insides across the mat getting that last TD for a major.
Hall stones BoJo.
Bo ends up rag dolling Martin for end of match 2NF and a major.
Cassar takes out number 1 ranked 197 and there was nothing fluky about it.
Nick Nevillis scores 2 TDs, damn near sticks and gasses Captain America.

Damn near impossible to give credit to any one or two kids. Tonight's victory was one earned by all of them.
I feel that one person is missing from all the MVP awards being handed out to the wrestlers.

Cael Sanderson.

Who else but Cael would have been able to locate someone who hadn’t wrestled in a long time, whip him into shape, get him eligible and have him in the lineup to save us the 2 points that was the difference in this match.

Just saying it all starts and ends with Cael.
 
got home at 1am, and now rewatching, still JUICED up!

Crowd was as electric as any I have ever been too in any venue for any sport.

Rec Record crowd is 6846 (mens gymnastics) and we crammed 6699 in last night.
6,699? I see now why the sellouts happen there. Good for you guys
 
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