So happy for Mark, amazing how ZV had absolutely no answers against Hall.
PSU - ASU Dual Thread
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I've heard that RBY and Mark Hall are good friends.
They may have quietly conspired before the dual to put an extremely motivated effort into their matches and, in turn, a whoopin' on ASU.
RBY may have been dissed (and subsequently pissed) when Zeke bumped Millhof up to 133.
And Zahid was arguably speaking with calm confidence as if he now owns 174. (See the recent FLO interview where he said he was 10-1 over years against Hall.)
That said, it's all in the spirit of competition and folks find motivation where and when they can get it.
They may have quietly conspired before the dual to put an extremely motivated effort into their matches and, in turn, a whoopin' on ASU.
RBY may have been dissed (and subsequently pissed) when Zeke bumped Millhof up to 133.
And Zahid was arguably speaking with calm confidence as if he now owns 174. (See the recent FLO interview where he said he was 10-1 over years against Hall.)
That said, it's all in the spirit of competition and folks find motivation where and when they can get it.
I have already rewatched the match. The benefit of the ffwd button and several bouts ending early you crank right through.
Well I will be the guy that takes the unpopular view, didn’t like it . Think it is punkish when Gable or anyone from Rutgers does it and think the same when my guy does it
Met Finesilvers’ mom in Clevland in hotel lounge. She is superstitious. Wound not get hotel or tickets before sons qualified. Kudo’s to Westin hotel. Long sold out, made room for family. Four sons at NCAA championships. She was (rightfully) extremely proud.
I would agree. I saw it in a bar and was a bit distracted so didn’t notice if in retaliation. If he initiated it, I feel you.
Maruca slid backwards all night and shot all of his shots with Brady stepping into the shot. It is difficult to get your offense going when you are always chasing and you know any shot is going to leave you extended. I thought he was great at scoring his takedowns, but I was surprised Brady did not ruthlessly attack Muruca's head to both slow the reverse movement and position himself into offensive attack positions.
It was a good win.
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It was almost like he forgot what was happening or thought they were in the practice room, or something of the sort. He got the escape, and then was like "now let's go again from neutral".
Mark was physical as hell, was out of position once, and that was barely and resulted in Valencia getting to his leg. Not deep though and Mark's hips in that situation were "WOW".
If Mark wrestles like that in March the outcome will be similar.
Asusual, thank you for doing an OUTSTANDING job with the pbp!
2013....Steiber. Rode by some guy named either Ruth or Ford, maybe Rutherford. Later known as Zain the Pain Train
Relive it for yourself to decide which is better...tough call for me but I lean towards Zain just because that was his coming out party so to speak as he was a true freshman and that left us with visions of greatness to come. However, Mark’s is up their too as Zahid, who looks like last years Cassar, was flat or nearly turned a couple times.
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Zeke was up and carrying on, but oh well. He and Cael consider each a friend so there wouldn't be any getting in the staff's face. Even if not friends, who in their right mind is going to get in Cael's, Casey's or freaking Jake's face?
How much riding time did Hall have? Three plus minutes maybe?
The last time Zahid was controlled and even dominated (and I'm sure it is a very rare feat indeed) was when DT tech-ed him 15-0 at Midlands when ZV was a redshirt freshman.
https://www.flowrestling.org/video/5561332-david-taylor-works-zahid-from-top-at-53rd-mids
The last time Zahid was controlled and even dominated (and I'm sure it is a very rare feat indeed) was when DT tech-ed him 15-0 at Midlands when ZV was a redshirt freshman.
https://www.flowrestling.org/video/5561332-david-taylor-works-zahid-from-top-at-53rd-mids
Ok, I am still intoxicated over Hall's win. However, Cassar's double leg blast is still playing in my head. It was the most EXPLOSIVE double I have seen in a long time. It was freaking VIOLENT,
I openly worried that Zahid had gotten into Mark's head after his 2 losses last year. It appears that it's only my head Zahid had gotten into. Mark's confidence is obviously fine. 2 takeaways: (1) Mark knows he can beat ZV on any given day; and (2) EVERYONE else now knows Mark can beat ZV on any given day.
I'm sure their next rematch will be a great show with either guy capable of winning it. I like the fact that when staring across the mat at Mark, Zahid now sees the guy who put the kibosh on 2 undefeated seasons and pumped the brakes on his premature coronation.
Spoken by someone who either did not see the match or lacks the understanding of what he watched.
ASU came to town on Tuesday, so travel should not have been a factor.
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THAT was a TOTALLY different match from NCAAs! I' was like..."where the FK did this come from Marky?!'
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It also took Zahid officially out of Hodge talk. And possibly put Mark Hall back into it.
I learned something tonight. I readily admit I have been irritated Iowa refused to come to Penn State to wrestle this year, but after watching tonight's beatdown I can't find fault in Coach Tommy's decision. Brands knew what kind of team Penn State was going to have this year, so I am 100% certain he simply decided I am not taking my guys there just to get a embarrassingly, physical beatdown on national television. Big Penn State recruiting tool at Iowa's expense.
Yes, it really looks like that finals loss really motivated Mark to improve his game, the first test says he was successful, at upping his game.
Another great who may finish with his only losses being to PSU guy/guys.IMAR- Nolf,Joseph. Valencia-Hall.Close with Dean-Ruth,Nickal, but I think had another loss maybe two.
One big factor that has been mentioned before re: Hall vs ZV at NCAA’s—wrestling in semis vs finals. Mark won in semis when Zahid had to keep his weight down. Tonight with a close weigh-in, Zahid lost again. In finals Zahid can put a lot of weight on, and handled Mark. Zahid looked a lot different in semis close match with Amine. No way it’s going to happen, but would love to see Mark get ZV in semis to increase his chances. No matter when they meet, should be a great re-match!!
I believe Dean lost twice his Jr year at the CKLV, when he was a bit dinged IIRC.
Anyone questioning the headgear pull win now? Bueller....Bueller......
Not many bring it up but the closest Zahid came to losing last year wasn't Hall in the finals but Bo Jordan early in the season (Cliff Keen, I think). Zahid went up but then gassed badly and was forced to hang on. The key might be keeping it close while remaining active, then gassing him out. Hall deserves credit for that ride, but that was also partly Zahid being done.
I thought so also, Zahid had nothing left in the third.
Not only was Hall able to ride out his takedown in the first period and ride an entire period in the third period, but he escaped very quickly himself in the second period (in about 8 seconds I think) and so both did not lose his riding time and also gained a point that ZV wasn't able to recover himself.
I think Hall was ridden for a while in his loss to ZV at NCAA's, wasn't he?
The point is that Hall showed strengths in all positions: (a) defensively not to give up any points from neutral (b) offensively to re-attack and get the takedown (c) from bottom in order to gain the quick escape and (d) from top to ride out strong the periods.
A well-executed plan that came across as more than a simple 4-0 win.
I think Hall was ridden for a while in his loss to ZV at NCAA's, wasn't he?
The point is that Hall showed strengths in all positions: (a) defensively not to give up any points from neutral (b) offensively to re-attack and get the takedown (c) from bottom in order to gain the quick escape and (d) from top to ride out strong the periods.
A well-executed plan that came across as more than a simple 4-0 win.
I think tonight is proof that Mark truly does not let himself be defined by wins and losses.
Fun match, Rec Hall was great. Congratulations Mark. Post match I had the chance and honor to meet Mr. John Brooks and his son Aaron briefly. My question is, can I prepay for my season tickets for 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023 now?
Like to rewatch the match but wifey hallmark Xmas shows trumped the meet. Live it looked a lot like Zahid tugged in Hall’s headgear a couple times. May be wrong. RBY actions at the end were not pleasant, thinking Casey will address next week.
BTW Mark seems to lift with DT and Cassar based on appearance.
What was up with RBY. Right after he escaped early in the third, he went back to the center of the mat and put his foot on the line as if they were restarting in neutral. Anybody else catch that?
I did catch that and hoped that the coaches would let him know that was a potential mistake
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