POST-MATCH THREAD: PSU Beats Iowa
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You mean when the wrestler is in control and behind? Those pictures aren't very similar to RBY vs DeSanto. Consider funk... how many ankle passes that don't grab toes/feet and torque knees?
Edit: Bottom two pics are titled "Illegal Twisting Knee Lock" so I believe a knee lock is involved.
Yeah, the possibility of Woods grabbing the 3-seed had me wondering. But he’s been on light duty again, having only 8 matches under his belt and not wrestling again in their last dual. I thought there was an effort by the Seeding Committee starting a couple years back to not reward such selective participation. But I’m often left scratching my head on that.
I’m also undecided whether I’d prefer Nick see Eierman as opposed to Woods in the semis. This all based on hypothetical that B1Gs ends Lee-Rivera-Eierman.
I know one wrestler is not draped over the back, but the foot is being pulled outside of the body. It is exactly the same movement of the leg/foot regardless of if it’s in a draped over position or not.
And ankle/leg passes most certainly take the knee out that direction unless they’re done entirely wrong.
Ok. Foot being pulled outside is illegal when knee is locked. I don’t believe it is generally illegal, since it need not be against the natural direction of moving the whole leg at the hip joint. Then again, I am not a referee or rules expert.
I agree. So, the question is, when is the knee locked? In the picture on the bottom right, you assume it is locked because it is on the mat and the weight of the top wrestler is keeping the knee on the mat, right?
Now, if we can agree to that, wouldn’t having an opponent on top of you, albeit draped over the top, be locking the knee to the mat in the same manor?
I thought wrestlers were exempt from twisting joint lock rules when applied on ADS?
#reparations
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Can we agree each illustration you provided show direct pressure/lock to the knee joint by the top wrestler?
Given a presumed answer, "Yes." then only if I believed drape over was similar could I answer, "Yes." to your question. But instead I believe drape over applies weight through the bottom wrestler via upper torso, and in no way locks the knee joint.
I believe the bottom wrestler is free to move his knee / leg. It is not being locked in place by the top wrestler.
Again, that's just me and I'm no referee.
I’m willing to entertain it, but please clarify in the bottom right image what direct pressure is being applied to the knee?
Edit: generally asking because I’m curious. I’m not sure I see the difference, and am not understanding what pressure is in that position that isn’t in the draped over position, so wondering if you can help explain.
Was thrilled (and nervous) that nearly all the marquee matchups happened! Props to both teams for that.
Some of my positives:
DH — nice push by Drew for bonus where 1 point could’ve made the difference. Impressive response at 165 by Marinelli, dang it.
NL — Very encouraging that Nick controlled that match from start to finish (almost). I now move this matchup from the toss-up column to the solidly leans Lee column going forward.
CS — Carter reaffirmed that he owns the formula for defeating the most elite version of Kem. For the sake of my blood pressure I pray he tweaks the formula slightly to get the W without needing overtime.
MD — Truly brutal with the bow and arrow (Warnerov’s theatrics notwithstanding). It’s impressive that Max is as competitive as he is up a weight class (wish BB at 149 we’re drinking whatever Max is drinking).
GK — Talk about Cenzo/Bull flashbacks! Greg was so sure he was stronger upper body than Cass that he went back to prove the 1st time was a fluke. Now he knows better. Silver linings. Confident there will be a W next time.
Some of my positives:
DH — nice push by Drew for bonus where 1 point could’ve made the difference. Impressive response at 165 by Marinelli, dang it.
NL — Very encouraging that Nick controlled that match from start to finish (almost). I now move this matchup from the toss-up column to the solidly leans Lee column going forward.
CS — Carter reaffirmed that he owns the formula for defeating the most elite version of Kem. For the sake of my blood pressure I pray he tweaks the formula slightly to get the W without needing overtime.
MD — Truly brutal with the bow and arrow (Warnerov’s theatrics notwithstanding). It’s impressive that Max is as competitive as he is up a weight class (wish BB at 149 we’re drinking whatever Max is drinking).
GK — Talk about Cenzo/Bull flashbacks! Greg was so sure he was stronger upper body than Cass that he went back to prove the 1st time was a fluke. Now he knows better. Silver linings. Confident there will be a W next time.
From top wrestler's apparent tension of bicep muscle, I infer he is forcing the shin toward the mat, locking the knee in the mat, as he simultaneously twists to move the foot against the natural movement of the knee joint.
Hope that helps.
I suggest you consult NCAA referees if you really want to know.
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First off, that was the best dual I've seen in years. I have a ton of respect for the Brands and the Iowa program. We all figured the team score wouldn't accurately represent the dual, with most of the individual matches being so close, and they were.
125 - Wish we would have seen Ayala, but hopefully he gets healthy and is able to go soon. Scoring late and ending the period on top has been a huge detail for years, and Drew delivered. Wouldn't have minded a little more offense against a backup. I figured Ybarra wouldn't go underneath. Once Drew got on top, he showed he's in the conversation for best 25lber on top without Spencer in the equation. If he continues to wrestle whistle to whistle and constantly working the boots and half, he's a problem for most if not the whole field.
133 - Weird match with RBY. Usually he's a bit better at making kids miss his legs and then using his speed for a go behind and the 2. I didn't think RBY was even remotely close to giving up a takedown at any point in time, which is great to see against someone who racks up so many points on their feet. RBY seemed completely relaxed and confident with Desanto on his legs constantly. The stall calls were warranted. Moving forward, I think this match will always be close, Even though Desanto has the skills to beat anyone in the weight class, I'm more confident it would take the perfect match and a few mistakes from RBY for him to do so.
141 - What a match! Eierman looked the best he has all season last night. JE did a great job at the end to get the takedown forcing OT. I think Nick's gas tank and constant pressure was the difference. It is obviously extremely difficult to keep up with that pace for 7 minutes. Nick still has some adjustments to make getting off bottom. He learned a lot from his loss to JE about how he has to finish shots. If he can figure out how to get off from bottom, he widens the current narrow gap.
149 - This match went about how I thought it would go. I really didn't care for what I thought were headbutts from Murin, but I'm obviously a little bias. I do think BB can beat Murin, but he's gonna have to be more offensive which has been a problem thus far. Watching Murin wrestle BB and pretty much march forward seemed to indicate he had no worry of a shot. This was also the first time I think someone has held BB down for that long. Coaches will work with BB and make adjustments according to BB's style. I still think BB can be on the podium, but after last night, probably a better chance he doesn't. Looking forward to the rematch at BIGs to see how he adjusts.
157 - Surprised to see BearClaw but after thinking about it early in the match it made sense. In Negron's matches, he seemed to have a problem with his gas tank. That's not a good problem to have in Carver. BearClaw continues to improve, was in on a few nice shots, just couldn't convert. Kudos to Young, he's always been good defensively and a good scrambler. BearClaw doesn't have a choice in the matter of getting better off bottom. He needs to make leaps and bounds in a short amount of time. I always appreciate effort, and I think he gave everything he had last night.
165 - Marinelli has lost one match in Carver, and that was to Cenzo. The bull is just good, plain and simple. The way he pushes the pace is much like Nick Lee without the dynamic offense. Berge just had no answer for not only the pace, but the strength. If Marinelli can finally put a tournament together, he is no doubt a title threat. I thought Berge would be able to slow him down a touch with some scrambles and his defense, but that didn't happen. Berge is a high level guy, just maybe not that high level which is ok. With Berge's style, the bull is just a bad matchup plain and simple. I see Berge doing a lot better with someone like Wick honestly. 165 is deep this year, and Berge would do much better at 57. It's highly unlikely that will happen at this point, so all we can ask for is everything he has every match and let the pieces fall where they may.
174 - IMO the match of the night. Between 141 and here, it was worth double the price of admission. Starocci got to his shots, that's a win. Star was able to keep Kem from scoring after he got extended, another win. Star was able to gut out a win against and extremely tough guy, obviously a win. These guys are extremely close, and it continues to be a 50/50 match. I think we were all robbed to an extent with so many clock errors and disagreements throughout the match. This is a one takedown match every time they wrestle, and whoever can finally convert, their percentage of a win goes up drastically. Much respect to Kem, he's a hell of a wrestler and a class act. I highly doubt we've seen the last of this matchup and if I had to guess, I think we see it twice more.
184 - I don't even know how I'm typing this right now, but a touch disappointed. (I just smacked my own hands). Brooks comes out and gets an easy 2. In a match that is this close, you have to get bonus points where you can, and he could of. With how great of a wrestler Brooks is, I really don't think there is a need to have close to 2 minutes of riding time. I do think Brooks got a touch of the Carver as he seemed to have an adrenaline dump half way through. Tough to blame him for that considering what he had just watched. Hat tip to Abe for limiting points. Brooks looked super good and I don't want someone to misconstrue what I'm saying. He's still the best 84lber in the nation. I'll be the first to predict that if these 2 meet again, it is a major IMO. Still a great job!
197 - When the whistle blew I was nervous. I couldn't shake the thought of how Dean wrestled the last few matches out of my head. Then, he plays right into Warners game plan. He took a bad shot, Warner got his go behind, and then begins his ride. His ride is basically nothing more than following to the edge, a return, rinse repeat. I think Dean did get screwed with the scramble not getting atleast and escape. How can you look at that sequence and see Warner's arms going back and forth, trying to get off his back, and not at least realize he lost control? Anyways, Dean seemed to catch a gear. He is so much better on top after a takedown than he is off the whistle, as are most admittedly. When he got the takedown and started fishing for the bow and arrow, I knew he was going to get backs, he's just lethal with that. Dean needs to get that first takedown in every match he wrestles, and if he can do that, I think he can be in the finals. Way to gut out a win Max Dean!
285 - I seen a few people say it on twitter and I'll say it here, never sacrifice position to hit a move. Unfortunately, Kerk did that twice. After that first takedown I thought Kerk was going to put on another takedown display, much like he did against Parris. However, he was sucked in to upper body positions twice. Stay out of those, and I think he's ok. Kerk is another one that needs bottom work against an Iowa wrestler. I do not agree in any way shape of form of how Cass does his double thigh pry ride, directly behind, without getting called for stalling, but it is what it is. The simple answer is to just get out. Cael and co I'm sure have already had the discussions with what needs to be done to combat this. The first thing that comes to mind is getting one elbow tight to the hip to keep the hand from the thigh pry. Seeding for bigs will be interesting here as Iowa and Michigan don't see each other. I'm assuming it will go 1. Gable, 2. Cass, 3. Kerk, 4. Parris, but Ive seen stranger things. If those seeds hold, and he's able to beat Cass, and I'll assume he loses to Gable, I can't imagine him being any lower than 3. Being opposite Gable come the show will be a win in itself.
There is no way after last night that you can't appreciate both programs and the sport in general. Two of the premier programs for the last 15 years did battle and every match was worth watching. I have a ton of respect for both programs as a whole. Such a big rivalry is awesome for our sport. We are favored in March, but we are far from a sure thing. Great job to the coaches, wrestlers, and all others involved last night in providing such an exciting and promoting event. I look forward to the rest of the schedule and the battles we will see at the end tournaments.
We Are!
125 - Wish we would have seen Ayala, but hopefully he gets healthy and is able to go soon. Scoring late and ending the period on top has been a huge detail for years, and Drew delivered. Wouldn't have minded a little more offense against a backup. I figured Ybarra wouldn't go underneath. Once Drew got on top, he showed he's in the conversation for best 25lber on top without Spencer in the equation. If he continues to wrestle whistle to whistle and constantly working the boots and half, he's a problem for most if not the whole field.
133 - Weird match with RBY. Usually he's a bit better at making kids miss his legs and then using his speed for a go behind and the 2. I didn't think RBY was even remotely close to giving up a takedown at any point in time, which is great to see against someone who racks up so many points on their feet. RBY seemed completely relaxed and confident with Desanto on his legs constantly. The stall calls were warranted. Moving forward, I think this match will always be close, Even though Desanto has the skills to beat anyone in the weight class, I'm more confident it would take the perfect match and a few mistakes from RBY for him to do so.
141 - What a match! Eierman looked the best he has all season last night. JE did a great job at the end to get the takedown forcing OT. I think Nick's gas tank and constant pressure was the difference. It is obviously extremely difficult to keep up with that pace for 7 minutes. Nick still has some adjustments to make getting off bottom. He learned a lot from his loss to JE about how he has to finish shots. If he can figure out how to get off from bottom, he widens the current narrow gap.
149 - This match went about how I thought it would go. I really didn't care for what I thought were headbutts from Murin, but I'm obviously a little bias. I do think BB can beat Murin, but he's gonna have to be more offensive which has been a problem thus far. Watching Murin wrestle BB and pretty much march forward seemed to indicate he had no worry of a shot. This was also the first time I think someone has held BB down for that long. Coaches will work with BB and make adjustments according to BB's style. I still think BB can be on the podium, but after last night, probably a better chance he doesn't. Looking forward to the rematch at BIGs to see how he adjusts.
157 - Surprised to see BearClaw but after thinking about it early in the match it made sense. In Negron's matches, he seemed to have a problem with his gas tank. That's not a good problem to have in Carver. BearClaw continues to improve, was in on a few nice shots, just couldn't convert. Kudos to Young, he's always been good defensively and a good scrambler. BearClaw doesn't have a choice in the matter of getting better off bottom. He needs to make leaps and bounds in a short amount of time. I always appreciate effort, and I think he gave everything he had last night.
165 - Marinelli has lost one match in Carver, and that was to Cenzo. The bull is just good, plain and simple. The way he pushes the pace is much like Nick Lee without the dynamic offense. Berge just had no answer for not only the pace, but the strength. If Marinelli can finally put a tournament together, he is no doubt a title threat. I thought Berge would be able to slow him down a touch with some scrambles and his defense, but that didn't happen. Berge is a high level guy, just maybe not that high level which is ok. With Berge's style, the bull is just a bad matchup plain and simple. I see Berge doing a lot better with someone like Wick honestly. 165 is deep this year, and Berge would do much better at 57. It's highly unlikely that will happen at this point, so all we can ask for is everything he has every match and let the pieces fall where they may.
174 - IMO the match of the night. Between 141 and here, it was worth double the price of admission. Starocci got to his shots, that's a win. Star was able to keep Kem from scoring after he got extended, another win. Star was able to gut out a win against and extremely tough guy, obviously a win. These guys are extremely close, and it continues to be a 50/50 match. I think we were all robbed to an extent with so many clock errors and disagreements throughout the match. This is a one takedown match every time they wrestle, and whoever can finally convert, their percentage of a win goes up drastically. Much respect to Kem, he's a hell of a wrestler and a class act. I highly doubt we've seen the last of this matchup and if I had to guess, I think we see it twice more.
184 - I don't even know how I'm typing this right now, but a touch disappointed. (I just smacked my own hands). Brooks comes out and gets an easy 2. In a match that is this close, you have to get bonus points where you can, and he could of. With how great of a wrestler Brooks is, I really don't think there is a need to have close to 2 minutes of riding time. I do think Brooks got a touch of the Carver as he seemed to have an adrenaline dump half way through. Tough to blame him for that considering what he had just watched. Hat tip to Abe for limiting points. Brooks looked super good and I don't want someone to misconstrue what I'm saying. He's still the best 84lber in the nation. I'll be the first to predict that if these 2 meet again, it is a major IMO. Still a great job!
197 - When the whistle blew I was nervous. I couldn't shake the thought of how Dean wrestled the last few matches out of my head. Then, he plays right into Warners game plan. He took a bad shot, Warner got his go behind, and then begins his ride. His ride is basically nothing more than following to the edge, a return, rinse repeat. I think Dean did get screwed with the scramble not getting atleast and escape. How can you look at that sequence and see Warner's arms going back and forth, trying to get off his back, and not at least realize he lost control? Anyways, Dean seemed to catch a gear. He is so much better on top after a takedown than he is off the whistle, as are most admittedly. When he got the takedown and started fishing for the bow and arrow, I knew he was going to get backs, he's just lethal with that. Dean needs to get that first takedown in every match he wrestles, and if he can do that, I think he can be in the finals. Way to gut out a win Max Dean!
285 - I seen a few people say it on twitter and I'll say it here, never sacrifice position to hit a move. Unfortunately, Kerk did that twice. After that first takedown I thought Kerk was going to put on another takedown display, much like he did against Parris. However, he was sucked in to upper body positions twice. Stay out of those, and I think he's ok. Kerk is another one that needs bottom work against an Iowa wrestler. I do not agree in any way shape of form of how Cass does his double thigh pry ride, directly behind, without getting called for stalling, but it is what it is. The simple answer is to just get out. Cael and co I'm sure have already had the discussions with what needs to be done to combat this. The first thing that comes to mind is getting one elbow tight to the hip to keep the hand from the thigh pry. Seeding for bigs will be interesting here as Iowa and Michigan don't see each other. I'm assuming it will go 1. Gable, 2. Cass, 3. Kerk, 4. Parris, but Ive seen stranger things. If those seeds hold, and he's able to beat Cass, and I'll assume he loses to Gable, I can't imagine him being any lower than 3. Being opposite Gable come the show will be a win in itself.
There is no way after last night that you can't appreciate both programs and the sport in general. Two of the premier programs for the last 15 years did battle and every match was worth watching. I have a ton of respect for both programs as a whole. Such a big rivalry is awesome for our sport. We are favored in March, but we are far from a sure thing. Great job to the coaches, wrestlers, and all others involved last night in providing such an exciting and promoting event. I look forward to the rest of the schedule and the battles we will see at the end tournaments.
We Are!
Some thoughts on last night:
125 - Drew is what he is. He's never gonna be a high volume shot guy. Would I have liked to seen him more aggressive in the first against the IA 3rd stringer? Sure. However, he's a methodical guy with a killer ride and he has shown some turning ability. His push to turn and get the bonus was all guts and determination and there was a scenario in which that point could have been the difference in the team result. Nice job, Drew.
133 - DeSanto really came out on fire, but RBY is just too athletic for him to take down. I actually did not think the stall calls against RBY were egregious at all. They were fair. It's got to be sinking in for DeSanto that RBY has surpassed him. He's too good for DeSanto. I have ZERO concerns about DeSanto upsetting RBY. None. That said, I do think RBY made it closer than it needed to be. When he took DeSanto down, he did it easily. He could have gotten 3 TDs and then played D. Anyway, as noted, DeSanto could wrestle RBY 100 times and he'd win maybe once or twice, IMO.
141 - This match was all about gas tank for the 2nd time in a row. Eierman does not have the stamina to beat Nick. Period. That's why I think he went for some big, home run type moves and, yes, my heart was in my throat on that first throw. Nick got sloppy giving up the late TD, but I had little concern heading to OT. Eierman was clearly gassed which is why he took the immediate, careless shot. He had nothing left. Good job, Nick!
149 - I just love Beau's strength and defense, but he was beaten fair and square. Hoping, like all others, his confidence in his offense builds. He's just too good to be that passive on offense, height difference, notwithstanding. Tip the cap to Murin, this time.
157 - Barraclough was game, but he had no offense. Almost fell asleep watching Young "wrestle". This is the Hawk who I think doesn't make AA this year.
165 - Disappointing, but it was easily forecast. Marinelli, coming off a loss, in front of his home crowd came out like a ball of fire. Berge is still not completely rounded into shape. He got dominated. Not that he'll win, but I think he'll be improved should they meet again.
174 - The match of the night. Two absolute warriors. There were some shots that it was incomprehensible that Carter didn't get the TD, but Kemerer's defense was that sensational. Reminded me of Myles Amine and AB when Amine, would have taken any other guy in the world down in the 3rd, but AB's D was too great. Don't think Kemerer had the leg laced, wasn't a TD, regardless of the clock. I think Carter is ever so slightly better but every time these guys face, likely 2 more times, it will come down to the wire.
184 - AB was solid. He wasted a bit of time on top in the 3rd that was unnecessary as he was going for bonus. He also actually looked a bit tired at the end, which was odd. He's all-world, as we know, but this was not his A+ game.
197 - Dean was Rivera'd, despite the win. Obviously a reversal and possibly back points in the 2nd. Fantastic finish as he wore out Warner. The sound of Warner's wail must have been glorious in a silenced CHA, as Mac Bow and Arrowed him. It's a tough sport. It was a legal move. Deal with it. Somewhere Zain was smiling.
HW - Tip the cap to Cass. Smart, tough match on his part. Obviously, some poor decisions by Kerk to go up top and it was concerning how he wasn't even close to getting off bottom. Adjustments will be made. Taking down Cass is not the issue and I hope to see more domination from his feet against Cass in the future.
Overall, it wasn't our best effort, but our studs are just a notch better than theirs, even when we have something like a "B" night, as last night. The differences between the teams will be accentuated in tournament format, IMO, as I expect us to have at least 4 and as many as 6 NCAA finalists. Now, we just hope to stay healthy (knock on wood), and get ready for March!
WE ARE!!!
125 - Drew is what he is. He's never gonna be a high volume shot guy. Would I have liked to seen him more aggressive in the first against the IA 3rd stringer? Sure. However, he's a methodical guy with a killer ride and he has shown some turning ability. His push to turn and get the bonus was all guts and determination and there was a scenario in which that point could have been the difference in the team result. Nice job, Drew.
133 - DeSanto really came out on fire, but RBY is just too athletic for him to take down. I actually did not think the stall calls against RBY were egregious at all. They were fair. It's got to be sinking in for DeSanto that RBY has surpassed him. He's too good for DeSanto. I have ZERO concerns about DeSanto upsetting RBY. None. That said, I do think RBY made it closer than it needed to be. When he took DeSanto down, he did it easily. He could have gotten 3 TDs and then played D. Anyway, as noted, DeSanto could wrestle RBY 100 times and he'd win maybe once or twice, IMO.
141 - This match was all about gas tank for the 2nd time in a row. Eierman does not have the stamina to beat Nick. Period. That's why I think he went for some big, home run type moves and, yes, my heart was in my throat on that first throw. Nick got sloppy giving up the late TD, but I had little concern heading to OT. Eierman was clearly gassed which is why he took the immediate, careless shot. He had nothing left. Good job, Nick!
149 - I just love Beau's strength and defense, but he was beaten fair and square. Hoping, like all others, his confidence in his offense builds. He's just too good to be that passive on offense, height difference, notwithstanding. Tip the cap to Murin, this time.
157 - Barraclough was game, but he had no offense. Almost fell asleep watching Young "wrestle". This is the Hawk who I think doesn't make AA this year.
165 - Disappointing, but it was easily forecast. Marinelli, coming off a loss, in front of his home crowd came out like a ball of fire. Berge is still not completely rounded into shape. He got dominated. Not that he'll win, but I think he'll be improved should they meet again.
174 - The match of the night. Two absolute warriors. There were some shots that it was incomprehensible that Carter didn't get the TD, but Kemerer's defense was that sensational. Reminded me of Myles Amine and AB when Amine, would have taken any other guy in the world down in the 3rd, but AB's D was too great. Don't think Kemerer had the leg laced, wasn't a TD, regardless of the clock. I think Carter is ever so slightly better but every time these guys face, likely 2 more times, it will come down to the wire.
184 - AB was solid. He wasted a bit of time on top in the 3rd that was unnecessary as he was going for bonus. He also actually looked a bit tired at the end, which was odd. He's all-world, as we know, but this was not his A+ game.
197 - Dean was Rivera'd, despite the win. Obviously a reversal and possibly back points in the 2nd. Fantastic finish as he wore out Warner. The sound of Warner's wail must have been glorious in a silenced CHA, as Mac Bow and Arrowed him. It's a tough sport. It was a legal move. Deal with it. Somewhere Zain was smiling.
HW - Tip the cap to Cass. Smart, tough match on his part. Obviously, some poor decisions by Kerk to go up top and it was concerning how he wasn't even close to getting off bottom. Adjustments will be made. Taking down Cass is not the issue and I hope to see more domination from his feet against Cass in the future.
Overall, it wasn't our best effort, but our studs are just a notch better than theirs, even when we have something like a "B" night, as last night. The differences between the teams will be accentuated in tournament format, IMO, as I expect us to have at least 4 and as many as 6 NCAA finalists. Now, we just hope to stay healthy (knock on wood), and get ready for March!
WE ARE!!!
Does anyone know what that woman (apparent Hawk fan) was saying to Cael after the match? Cael was standing next to a staircase and the woman above him approached him twice and was jabbing her finger in his direction and just inches from him. Cael looked at her but didn't say anything while the camera was on him.
I saw that but didn’t think she was being antagonistic. I figured she just wanted a selfie (or convo) w/ Cael, and he was hanging back until some more folks (and the camera crew) cleared out.
"Bo Nickal is my daddy."
In any other sport thats pretty much an ejection or am I wrong? Wrestling is just different.. lol
I was really disappointed in some of the crowd last night. Way different experience than the 2020 match... Although they didn't sell beer in 2020, I think it was the difference.. Some of the comments were disgusting. I was in Row 3 behind the scorers table by the Penn State bench. Some of the stuff the "fans" were yelling to the team... ***smh
I loved when Eierman’s wrist/hand brace was out of place and Angel insisted on helping rather than risk Eierman getting a lunger at that point in the match.
Wild thought I had was RBY had a plan to get him out of wrestling for good, hell it could/should have worked, ADS hands on ref, head-bump and nothing happens...best of all, that satanic stare at the end could not have been far from a punch being thrown...better tighten up the lug nuts ADS!
Okm telling t
Nope they will come off at bigs and won't make Nationals
You forget about Spencer?
Edit: I see now the post you quoted said "if you take away Spencer"
Does anyone think Marinelli should have been penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct for repeatedly shoving Berge after both were out of bounds and the whistle had blown. Marinelli has cultivated a positive image. Shoving a defenseless, broken opponent is not a good look. I haven't seen Iowa do this sort of thing in several years. Perhaps Marinelli was watching some old Metcalf videos?
Gosh darnit Dice, come on. Can't you show your blue and white and bitch and fret?
Great post!
We broke their dual win streak. For that I'm thankful.
The shove was nothing compared to the illegal "body slam" as time expired in Period 2.
Im not saying he couldn't get there as far as wrestling goes I'm saying he does something stupid where he won't be allowed to wrestle. I'm thinking the NCAA is aware of how he's acting and he's on a short leash after the bullshit he pulled last year
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