Football GAMEDAY THREAD: Penn State versus Illinois

[RickinDayton]

I don't understand how anyone doesn't understand how that was a penalty on Rojas

The TV ref explained it perfectly. Blind side hits can be called on offense and defense.

 

[RickinDayton]

That call was wrong.

To be a PF the defender would need to intentionally run into the other player.

No matter what they say on TV that was the wrong call.

The ref must have seen it as intentional. It wasn't. The defender didn't even see the receiver until he was upon him.

Not a personal foul because he didn't block him.

Rewatch it. Rojas saw him and lowered his shoulder into the WR.

 

[LandoComando]

That call was wrong.

To be a PF the defender would need to intentionally run into the other player.

No matter what they say on TV that was the wrong call.

The ref must have seen it as intentional. It wasn't. The defender didn't even see the receiver until he was upon him.

Not a personal foul because he didn't block him.

Again, it wasn't wrong--you dislike the rule
It was 100% intentional as well

 

[Crusher1950]

Ask yourself is Illinois that good or Psu that bad

 

[LandoComando]

Ask yourself is Illinois that good or Psu that bad

I don't think this is real surprising. The line was too big--I still think we win by about 10

 

[PurposePitch]

We’re going to smoke these fools in the 2nd half.

I’ll take PSU -16.5. Easy.

 

[jmorovich]

It’s like this D has been told to be ultra aggressive but not been coached on how to do it leading to penalties left and right.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Illinois 1 penalty for 5 yards... PSU 3 for 45.... LMFAO. Amazing how clean these visiting teams play in Beaver Stadium with b1g clown crews - to date that would be a total of 5 penalties for 43 yards versus 17 penalties for 186 yards for PSU... .

 

[psu00]

I am getting impatient with Tom Allen. Defense making the same mistakes all year, and they are correctable mistakes.

Tom Allen was horrible as a coach at Indiana. I don’t know how he was hired as a DC. He doesn’t make any adjustments until halftime and that will kill this team this year IMO.

 

[b&w1987]

Well … looks like our defense is not so good.

 

[LionDeNittany]

Rewatch it. Rojas saw him and lowered his shoulder into the WR.

Yes. As the wr was within a foot of him.

Which is how someone would as a defender deal with a guard pulling.

That's how a defender reacts to a guy coming at you from the side.

Which is different from intentionally blocking a guy.

He saw a wr coming at him from the corner of his eye. Which is what offensive players do to block defenders when they run the ball.

 

[GregInPitt]

After the sack, why not hike it with 2 seconds left and throw it to the end zone.......

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Another $hit start

 

[LionDeNittany]

Tom Allen was horrible as a coach at Indiana. I don’t know how he was hired as a DC. He doesn’t make any adjustments until halftime and that will kill this team this year IMO.

Our defense isn't the issue.

Do you see the score?

This is Illinois. We scored 7 points.

 

[LandoComando]

Yes. As the wr was within a foot of him.

Which is how someone would as a defender deal with a guard pulling.

That's how a defender reacts to a guy coming at you from the side.

Which is different from intentionally blocking a guy.

You have to stop--it was 100% a penalty as explained--hate the rule and none of us are going to argue with you but the call was correct as much as you hate that reality
Just like Illinois fans are complaining about the intentional grounding call that was correct despite the rule being questionable.

 

[diontechristmas]

Well … looks like our defense is not so good.

They were on the field too long, but there are 7 points on the scoreboard.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

The punt on 4th and inches as we're destroying them running is laughable.

 

[LandoComando]

7-7 at the half is fine--we'll probably win by 10
The opening drive by the defense wasn't great and they have to be more disciplined
The offense is just missing--the run game should be featured heavily on the opening drive

 

[Crusher1950]

Maybe another 9 overtime thriller coming

 

[pennstatefan111]

Flush this half in the toilet. What a disappointing effort on both sides. I’m totally unimpressed by Tom Allen. All games we have been sloppy and docile to start.

 

[RickinDayton]

I don't think this is real surprising. The line was too big--I still think we win by about 10

The line was way too big especially given the undisciplined manner in which this defense plays.

 

[LandoComando]

Allen 5 for 45
Singleton 6 for 42

I'm not worried here

 

[AWS1022]

The punt on 4th and inches as we're destroying them running is laughable.

Unless he went for it and didn’t make it then we’d be reading how he never learns and he needs to quit looking at the analytics.

 

[diontechristmas]

Yes. As the wr was within a foot of him.

Which is how someone would as a defender deal with a guard pulling.

That's how a defender reacts to a guy coming at you from the side.

Which is different from intentionally blocking a guy.

He saw a wr coming at him from the corner of his eye. Which is what offensive players do to block defenders when they run the ball.

Agree, Rojas was getting to the football. There was an offensive player in his way and he ran him over. That what you do. Some of these guys never put on a helmet.

 

[LandoComando]

Unless he went for it and didn’t make it then we’d be reading how he never learns and he needs to quit looking at the analytics.

My only issue is him punting goes against his claim he uses analytics. I just want consistency. I'd have punted.

 

[NittanyChris]

They cannot stop our run at all and we somehow have just 7 points.

Well, we’ve been a second half team, so…

 

[jbenedict]

Ask yourself is Illinois that good or Psu that bad

At this point I would describe PSU as a 20th ranked team,

 

[jmorovich]

Our defense isn't the issue.

Do you see the score?

This is Illinois. We scored 7 points.

Letting ILL convert 3rd n long and extend drives doesn’t really help your offense. This D is really a problem

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Unless he went for it and didn’t make it then we’d be reading how he never learns and he needs to quit looking at the analytics.

We've been absolutely destroying them up front. Play to win the game.

 

[b&w1987]

They were on the field too long, but there are 7 points on the scoreboard.

We have 4 sacks so far this year. That’s not very good considering who we’ve played. Illinois converted a 3rd and forever. Shouldn’t happen.

 

[RickinDayton]

Allen 5 for 45
Singleton 6 for 42

I'm not worried here

Not worried unless the play calling doesn't stick to dominating with the run.

 

[LandoComando]

Agree, Rojas was getting to the football. There was an offensive player in his way and he ran him over. That what you do. Some of these guys never put on a helmet.

Again--then argue the rule
None of us have said we like the rule--we just understand it as it exists today

 

[LionDeNittany]

Letting ILL convert 3rd n long and extend drives doesn’t really help your offense. This D is really a problem

How many points did we score?

 

[jbenedict]

AS much money that is being spent on this program year after year it is surprising that things never seem to change,

 

[LionDeNittany]

AS much money that is being spent on this program year after year it is surprising that things never seem to change,

First team we are playing with a pulse and we can't score.

 

[RickinDayton]

At this point I would describe PSU as a 20th ranked team,

Agree. Unless this team vastly improves this is not a playoff team.

 

[j-buff]

This not a playoff type team let’s face it we are not very good at this point and I doubt we are going to improve all that much as the season goes on

 

[LandoComando]

This not a playoff type team let’s face it we are not very good at this point and I doubt we are going to improve all that much as the season goes on

Name 12 playoff teams...
Miami? Ole Miss? Georgia? Michigan? USC? ND?

 

[jbenedict]

This not a playoff type team let’s face it we are not very good at this point and I doubt we are going to improve all that much as the season goes on

Unfortunately you maybe right

 

[PurposePitch]

Unless he went for it and didn’t make it then we’d be reading how he never learns and he needs to quit looking at the analytics.

I’d be perfectly fine with the decision if we’d have gotten stopped. Sure, some oldenheimers would have cried, but no one cares about their opinion, anyway.