I don’t think it’s particularly close.
Iowa dual thread - Jan 31
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GIA is a dumpster fire. News at 11.
well Barr knows he can go with anyone!
Nelson Brands to Rutgers midseason transfer. Book it.
Will Mesenbrink's accomplishments be diminished because of lack of competition? I'm not saying it will, but he's going to roll to a title this year and his best competition is Caliendo, Peyton Hall and Barraclough. Maybe Ramirez. Those guys are very good, but their resumes aren't going to stand out.
That’s the thing, if some random two years ago ran his mouth about Lee then didn’t wrestle the match, you’d hardly notice it I bet. Probably wouldn’t come up.
Like I said, I think it's very good that Barr will see Buckanan 2 more times. If Levi could have had that against O'Connor...
If Iowa was as good as Penn St, I would be too busy enjoying the dominance and not worried about a freshman running his mouth.
The story is the mismanagement of Arnold IMO.
If he’s the guy he should have felt Star and gone tonight. If not he should have gone last year and RS this year.
You think Brands has a plan? I wish he did.
Doubt it. Things aren’t less funny and foolish just because you’re really good. Would be the most condescending thing ever to have that attitude to begin with.
In part the problem is the 3 point takedown. There's less incentive to turn and pin if you know you can take guys down and more matches end early. At this point Mitch has 0 pins this season and six for his career. How differently would he have wrestled w/o the three point TD, how many guys would have been exhausted by dealing with his relentless attacks been pinned in 5 1/2 or 6 minutes?
I'm not sure I'd agree with diminished. But it's definitely a fair assessment to say Mitchell doesn't have the top end competition that Nolf faced. 165 definitely cleared out after last season.
LOL he didn't duck him he just didn't want to lose!
where will Arnold be transferring to?
If Gabe wrestled, that match isn’t close, Gabe would’ve been taken down at least 2-3x there. It’s clear Angelo is superior to Gabe, and if it they were close, I don’t think Angelo would’ve wrestled.
yes when Zain kicking butt flo said it was a weak weight instead of realizing he was so much better than anyone else!
and you know this how?
Someone else said somewhere- he cleaned out the weight class: no one wanted to wrestle 165 with him there.
I agree wholeheartedly on the great majority refraining from ridiculous promises. The only (hypotheotical) way I might see Arnold’s situation as different is if his promise was an act of desperation to force Bob’s and Tom’s hands in letting him take the mat.
That said, it is equally plausible that the Hawkeye staff thought they were being clever by putting Gabe up to it.
Remember the “I’m having a blast!” propaganda they were pressuring their wrestlers to push several years ago? And that ridiculous “Take a Stroll with Stoll” social media mini-series? These wrestlers aren’t immune to the staff’s job security insecurities. Sometimes it is appropriate to feel bad for the wrestlers.
Great night.
A bunch of great matches from our guys obviously. Will touch on a few Iowa things.
Ferrari is going to have a really good career, that kid can wrestle.
What I learned tonight being there was Gabe didn’t duck. You can say a lot of things about the dad, one of the reasons PSU wasn’t interested in Gabe. But he’s not a bad kid. Him talking trash was him trying to get in the lineup, he knew he was sitting.
A bunch of great matches from our guys obviously. Will touch on a few Iowa things.
Ferrari is going to have a really good career, that kid can wrestle.
What I learned tonight being there was Gabe didn’t duck. You can say a lot of things about the dad, one of the reasons PSU wasn’t interested in Gabe. But he’s not a bad kid. Him talking trash was him trying to get in the lineup, he knew he was sitting.
Agree with that.
But unless he goes in the postseason, what was gained wrestling Ferrari? Meanwhile, Gabe could have gained experience in a big setting against a guy he likely will see at least one more time.
If Ferrari is the guy, then why have we been seeing Gabe at all?
Whole thing just seems shortsighted.
We can have fun, too!!!! That was a funny media campaign
Ferrari wrestled a smart match. I saw that match before too, it was called Shane Griffith vs Carter last year in March
he wrestled his best lineup, unfortunate for Gabe, but I still think he’ll be the guy in March. Let keck and Starroci leave and then Ferrari will be top dog alongside McEnelly and Ryder.
Caliendo is a really good wrestler. Absent Mitch, the clear NC favorite.
He was #2 and unbeaten and he was just taken apart like a cheap Happy Meal toy.
Mitch is 40-1 for his career. Absent a riding time point against Carr, we might be wondering if he would duplicate Cael's unbeaten career.
Nobody's resume is going to stand out when they are subject to this comparison.
8 scoring wrestlers?
How about 8 National Champions?
How about 8 National Champions?
He's just not going to have any signature wins, like victories over former national champs. This is how most typically compare guys historically. Pure domination could be the factor that does put him with the all-time greats. Time will tell.
Caliendo is a very good wrestler but no Isaiah Martinez.
Exactly. This isn't a knock on Mesenbrink, he can only compete against the guys that step on the mat.
Wow that whole Messenbrink narrative changed quickly...Most dominant wrestler in the nation is now just beating second rate guys like Mikey Caliendo 20-4 😂
I LOVE Greg but please can we not put him in front of a mic anymore?😂 Tyler up there stoked and Greg’s response…
Riding time was an issue at least twice. PSU needed a few more seconds and failed secure them
Likelihood for Penn St
1. Mesenbrink (as close to a guarantee as possible)
2. Starocci (highly likely unless Keck can pull something)
3. Kasak (Teemer, Shapiro and maybe Taylor have a chance)
4. Kerk (Steveson is a big hill to climb)
5. Haines (O'Toole and Hamiti are both elite)
6. Van Ness (already lost to Lovett and Henson is the returning champ)
7. Barr (Buchanan, Cardenas and Ferrari are all tough)
8. Bartlett (Mendez and Alirez both better)
9. Lilledahl (Ramos, Figs and Robinson are all way better than Peterson who he lost too)
10. Davis (too many guys better)
I would say 5 max.
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