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Iowa dual thread - Jan 31

Likelihood for Penn St

1. Mesenbrink (as close to a guarantee as possible)
2. Starocci (highly likely unless Keck can pull something)
3. Kasak (Teemer, Shapiro and maybe Taylor have a chance)
4. Kerk (Steveson is a big hill to climb)
5. Haines (O'Toole and Hamiti are both elite)
6. Van Ness (already lost to Lovett and Henson is the returning champ)
7. Barr (Buchanan, Cardenas and Ferrari are all tough)
8. Bartlett (Mendez and Alirez both better)
9. Lilledahl (Ramos, Figs and Robinson are all way better than Peterson who he lost too)
10. Davis (too many guys better)

I would say 5 max.
Lilledahl will beat Ramos, Figs, AND Robinson.
 
Will Mesenbrink's accomplishments be diminished because of lack of competition? I'm not saying it will, but he's going to roll to a title this year and his best competition is Caliendo, Peyton Hall and Barraclough. Maybe Ramirez. Those guys are very good, but their resumes aren't going to stand out.
No. MM has two more years after this year. If he continues to win, score at anything near his current pace, and pick up a Hodge or two along the way, he’ll end up with a collegiate career that’s right up there with other PSU greats.
 
A few thoughts:

@SeamusGQuaker just went off on GIA. A post for the ages. Managed to insult entire states, the Brands and DT in one fell swoop. @johnstownsteel is a milquetoast in comparison

Hawky42 is giving Grip a run for his money

All the talk about Kasak’s acne on GIA. Have they seen the Ferrari boys? Dudes could make good money on YouTube popping zits for followers
 
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If Ferrari is the guy, then why have we been seeing Gabe at all?
Ferrari is not the guy.

Bob and Tom know they are not winning it all in 2025. Being short-sighted (as you alluded to), they think they can buy enough guys and keep them healthy enough for a few months to challenge in 2026. Therefore, redshirt Ferrari in ‘25, but give him his one possible sample against an all-time #1 so he experiences/learns firsthand what it means to be dominant in NCAA D1 Wrestling. Then he has all the tools and experience to make a run at greatness next year.

Gabe will be filler in ‘25 and gain valuable experience in the art of total bullshit before he takes the mat for Rutger in ‘26.
 
A few thoughts:

@SeamusGQuaker just went off on GIA. A post for the ages. Managed to insult entire states, the Brands and DT in one fell swoop. @johnstownsteel is a milquetoast in comparison

Hawky42 is giving Grip a run for his money

All the talk about Kasak’s acne on GIA. Have they seen the Ferrari boys? Dudes could make good money on YouTube popping zits for followers and cash
I saw that. Seamus went full Defcon 5 on them. Johnstown would be proud
😂.
 
My thoughts:

Luke looked great. Based on his career and tonight's results, I think he is going to see a lot of wrestlers try to wrestle a defensive match against him.

SVN has all the tools to win it all.

That was a great shot and finish by Tyler. He did a great job working with what Teemer offered and didn't take the bait by taking half-hearted shots or getting out of position. His ride and ability to quickly escape paid dividends. Very smart match.

Mitchell did that against the #2 ranked wrestler? Wow!

Levi was tough and patient. His finishes and defense were top notch. O'Toole's projected return date in late February doesn't bode well for him in a rematch with Levi. Along with O'Toole and Hamiti, Levi is right there to contend for another national championship.

This being the first time Carter wrestled Ferrari, I wasn't totally surprised by the match. Carter showed Ferrari a lot of respect because I think he knows how good Ferrari is and he also knows that his defense is so good that he didn't need to place himself in vulnerable positions trying to score on Ferrari.

Josh wrestled well overall, but the typical freshman weaknesses of being ridden and giving up quick escapes reared its ugly head. Had Josh been able to ride Buchanan another three seconds I would not have been surprised at all to see that match go into overtime, which I would have loved to watch. I was surprised Josh wasn't more active in using head snaps. I'm really looking forward to seeing how Josh does against Cardenas. I guess the final thing to be said is that Cael's record is no longer in jeopardy!

Greg looked great. He, Steveson and Hendrickson are the cream of the crop at 285.
 
Likelihood for Penn St

1. Mesenbrink (as close to a guarantee as possible)
2. Starocci (highly likely unless Keck can pull something)
3. Kasak (Teemer, Shapiro and maybe Taylor have a chance)
4. Kerk (Steveson is a big hill to climb)
5. Haines (O'Toole and Hamiti are both elite)
6. Van Ness (already lost to Lovett and Henson is the returning champ)
7. Barr (Buchanan, Cardenas and Ferrari are all tough)
8. Bartlett (Mendez and Alirez both better)
9. Lilledahl (Ramos, Figs and Robinson are all way better than Peterson who he lost too)
10. Davis (too many guys better)

I would say 5 max.
I’d argue Bartlett/SVN/Haines all have a better chance than Kerk does. Gable is as big of a lock as Mitchell.
 
In part the problem is the 3 point takedown. There's less incentive to turn and pin if you know you can take guys down and more matches end early. At this point Mitch has 0 pins this season and six for his career. How differently would he have wrestled w/o the three point TD, how many guys would have been exhausted by dealing with his relentless attacks been pinned in 5 1/2 or 6 minutes?
Yep. After a few years I’ve come to the conclusion That I hate the 3 point TD for sure
 
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do they like dancing in NJ?
Sure do!
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MSU has changed his lab from how to beat PSU to how to keep PSU from scoring 172 points.

There are Penn State haters, and then there is MSU158.

I'm convinced his wife left him for a Penn State wrestler 😂
MSU158 is the poster child for Stockholm Syndrome.

He tries so hard to fit in over there, and if he steps within 3 feet of the line, they beat him mercilessly. Which obviously means he needs to try harder to fit in.
 
Yes, that's true. Important distinction. Thank you, cheers.
Sorry man — to be clear, I was not trying to knock your post. Just having a fan flashback to the frustration of knowing what he didn’t in real time, while having every confidence he would have gotten what he needed in the closing seconds if only he knew he needed it. He was the better wrestler, which made that kind of loss a tough pill to swallow.

Fortunately, it does not appear it will
hold him back at all this season.
 
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