Just pathetic. If this is the Brands setting him up to look like a complete fool yet again and he really has no say in the matter, he’ll be a great addition at Rutgers next year.
Match Thread Iowa dual thread - Jan 31
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Just pathetic. If this is the Brands setting him up to look like a complete fool yet again and he really has no say in the matter, he’ll be a great addition at Rutgers next year.
Guy sitting next me last night ask why they don't put chairs in the corners. I told him this way the twins expended so much energy jumping up and down to see over the stage floor they don't go out onto the mat as much because they get tired. Cael just trying to save time from having to have security carry them off the mat.
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My old ass worries about our guys blowing their knees when they run and jump off it.
I think it’s as simple as protecting his seed by not taking obvious losses. Tom said they plan to sit him against good competition going forward, I say for the same reason.
Tom is showing poor confidence in his wrestler.
We should expect to see Gabe starting for Rutgers next year. 😉
That's the side effect.
The plan seems pretty obvious: Ferrari is the guy next year, and they're gonna develop him by giving him tough matches this year risk-free.
BTW, don't be surprised if they're both in the Iowa lineup next year. Unless Slumlord Bob finds another willing rental, Iowa has a gaping 4-year hole at 197 when Buchanan leaves in March. Angelo probably doesn't need to be told twice to hit the weights.
Might want to communicate so you don’t have to walk out your wrestler you’ll need later on in the year.
Not sure does the loss by Ferrari count as an official loss? If so, a poor way to get your first one.
I was at the match , and yes Iowa was stalling. Steroids? Whatever.
Nothing has changed in fifteen years.
Nothing has changed in fifteen years.
Quit stealing our patented material from the football board.
By relegating him to the bench in these matches, the coaches are telling him the same thing.
Up to now I've refrained from commenting about Gabe Arnold, but that last statement makes no sense. A kid tries to force his coach's hand (i.e., reversing a pre-made lineup decision) by making a fuss on social media? Not even TnT are that dumb, or that easily influenced.
And I'll give Arnold credit for not being that naive as well. Arnold may have known he would not wrestle against PSU, but find it really hard to believe he thought that being a douche on social media that change that. I mean, these people can't really be that stupid, right?
Yes.
Also, let's give Carter credit for seeing thru all of that noise and prepping for Ferrari.
It was great to see Bonnie Epstein, looking well, on the end of the bench (i was watching on TV). Big relief to see her again, after not seeing her for quite a while.
I dont think anyone saw Spencer getting upset by Ramos either. Anything can happen at nationals. Anything
Let's be clear, that wasn't social media that was a bonified press conference after a dual meet lol
I mean, can you imagine Tom saying, “we are going to sit Parco on this tough match and the next couple so we can manage his load and get him ready for March.” It says a lot about what they think of Gabe.
I’ve run out of superlatives for Missile Messenbrink! Caliendo is having a fantastic year and I thought he might be able to keep it to a MD loss this time. But he looked broken at the end, bellied out and hoping the buzzer would mercifully hurry up.
Beautiful win by SVN. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a similar outcome next time he faces Lovett after the takeaways he learned from their last match.
I don’t recall the exact nature of SVN’s injury last year, but to my eye it seems like he bails out of positions fairly quickly that threaten to put torque on his knees and concedes those takedowns. Anyone else seeing that?
Beautiful win by SVN. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a similar outcome next time he faces Lovett after the takeaways he learned from their last match.
I don’t recall the exact nature of SVN’s injury last year, but to my eye it seems like he bails out of positions fairly quickly that threaten to put torque on his knees and concedes those takedowns. Anyone else seeing that?
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Exactly, wasn’t a person being brash on social. It was a guy at the official post match presser.
He was terrific especially early in the "lightening" LL match and SVN. My favorite part was in the SVN match as SVN was taking control he is screaming "Parko is bellied out and is not even moving" as if to say SVN had beaten him physically AND mentally.
I loved Zain’s excited clap after pinning Sorenson in the semis at Nationals when we needed momentum
SPOT ON. A good watch for the first 9 minutes.
Not sure I agree. Wish it weren't the case, but I see it the opposite - I didn't see anything that would make me think it will be closer next time. Josh looked completely stumped in Neutral - he never came remotely close to taking Buchanan down and honestly showed virtually no offense whatsoever.... on the contrary, Buchanan was in deep early in the 1st... Of the two, Josh looked way more vulnerable to Buchanan's attacks/counters than vice versa. I thought Buchanan pretty clearly dominated that match - worse than the score would indicate.
I saw a RSFR struggle to get out from bottom on an upperclassman because he wasn’t getting hand control, like most young college wrestlers, who never needed hand control to get out in high school.
And because of it, he had to force a shot he wouldn’t have taken in the 3rd.
Correct the hand control issue and it’s anyone’s match.
So yeah - I think Barr wins in mid-March now that he was shown what he needs to fix.
And because of it, he had to force a shot he wouldn’t have taken in the 3rd.
Correct the hand control issue and it’s anyone’s match.
So yeah - I think Barr wins in mid-March now that he was shown what he needs to fix.
MM reminds me so much of DT - their defense is essentially constant attacking offensive - and not just offense for the sake of offense either..., chain-wrestling high-quality attacks just one after the other. Almost like their weakening their opponents defensive fortifications like a cannon... shot after shot not in one big explosion.
I heard that the next time the Brands bros are here they are making them wear orange flags like they do for 4 wheelers in the sand dunes.
I'm not sure I believe that, but I'm not saying its not true. I'm sure the fans sitting behind Gabe heard/read what he said about taking Carter's head. Of course there is going to things said when you don't take the mat, regardless on who made that call.
I know it's a short video clip, but judging ONLY from what was seen, I don't believe anything overly egregious was being said. I didn't see anyone leaning over the rails, or even standing up pointing down at Gabe. I didn't see Gabe or Tom/Terry (not sure which one walked him out) saying anything to the crowd. I've seen enough of Tom and Terry to know that they will 100% engage with the crowd to defend his guys. Hell, I've seen him (Terry) argue with fans when it had nothing to do with his guys, he just didn't agree with what was being said.
Well that didn't age well.
What is it like to be male who best wrestling move is being able to split like female cheerleaders?
Perhaps that’s because Bobby Telford is his primary workout partner, and TNT have anointed Bobby as their ace recruiter. 😉
Last evening’s dual meet against Iowa provided me the most fun I’ve had at a dual since the 19-18 win against Ohio State on February 3, 2018. I will always consider Iowa a worthy opponent, and the environment and wrestling lived up to its billing, as the crowd of 15,998 (ties indoor attendance record) was loud and proud and the wrestling fabulous. I’ve tried to capture a few thoughts about the bouts last evening, a brief summary of the season so for the nine starters that wrestled, and what’s ahead. After that I’ll end on a few comments that made the day extra special for me.
125: Luke Lilledahl (12-1) broke out the offense in a big way, dominant in a technical fall victory against #23 Cruz. It was his most impressive offensive explosion on the season, as his other five tech falls were against lesser competition. His best win on the season is against #6 Smith (NEB), as Lilledahl won’t have a great resume by season’s end. Yet to come is #16 McCrone (tOSU), as the highest ranked opponent yet to wrestle in the regular season. Can only wrestle the guy they put in front of you, so thus far the season is a success, the schedule just didn’t provide Lilledahl with many top guys. The postseason shall be interesting, as the competition will get tougher for Lilledahl. Still he likes the limelight and isn’t fazed by pressure. The Peterson loss is in the rearview mirror.
141: Beau Bartlett (13-0) won in workmanlike fashion. Nothing fancy, just a solid never-in-trouble four point win. Has season wins against #4 Hardy (NEB), #12 Edmonds (MIZZ) and #15 Olivieri (RUT), so a decent resume so far. Upcoming bouts against #11 Lemley (MICH), #1 Mendez (tOSU) and #16 Pucino (ILL), so he has his work cut out. The Mendez bout will be good fun, and they may face each other three times this season.
149: Shayne Van Ness (12-1) put on a show against #4 Parco (#2 on Intermat). A close 4-4 bout in the first period ended as a major decision for Van Ness as the crowd was going bananas. Solid, solid, dominating win against a very talented opponent. Van Ness has already put the #2 Lovett (NEB) loss behind him. This win, against Parco was by far his best win of the season. He has #9 D’Emilio (tOSU) and #15 Webster (ILL) ahead, among others before the postseason.
157: Tyler Kasak (13-0) also put on a show, defeating #1 Teemer by decision. Teemer may be the quickest wrestler I've seen ths year when he decides to go. Kasak could be #1 when the next rankings are released. This was obviously Kasak’s best win in an undefeated season thus far. He’s also beaten #4 Taylor (NEB) and teammate Facundo. The top three at 157, Kasak, Shapiro and Teemer have separated themselves from the pack, so winning is important to secure the #1 seed at NCAA’s. Long way to go…just giving perspective. Yet to wrestle are #6 Miller (MD), #16 Saldate (MICH) and #19 Sasso (tOSU, gives me goosebumps just seeing Sasso on the mat!!), so he has work to do before Big Ten’s.
165: Mitchell Mesenbrink (one “s”!!!) 14-0, was his usual high energy self, winning by technical fall – against the #2 kid in the country!! I can’t remember this much separation between a #1 wrestler and the field in quite a while. Mesenbrink also has a tech fall win against #9 Wilson (NEB), and has #13 Gallagher (tOSU) and #14 Mantanona yet to wrestle in the regular season. Fellow fans…Don’t take Mesenbrink (or others, for that matter) for granted, ever. The sport he is making look easy is not easy at all.
174: Levi Haines (12-1) came within five seconds of a major decision win against #6 Kennedy, winning by 7 points. No flair, just solid wrestling from Haines. And remember, he is up two weight classes from last season. Other best wins so far are against #14 Pinto (NEB) and #20 Turley (RUT), and he has a loss to #1 O’Toole. No shame at all in the O’Toole loss. The Mizzou wrestler is currently injured. I hope for his return by the postseason. Yet-to-come is #5 Kharchla (tOSU), who beat Kennedy in similar fashion. That should be a great bout, with Haines favored.
184: Carter Starocci (13-0) struggled to score against Ferrari, winning by decision with no takedowns. It is always tough wrestling a guy that backs up and plays defense mostly, but Cael has said that a wrestler needs to find a way when that is the case. Starocci’s best win this season is #7 Allred (NEB), a bout he dominated. Yet to wrestle are #10 Smith (MD), #12 Ruth (ILL) and #18 Rogotzke (tOSU) before the postseason.
197: Josh Barr (12-1) lost by decision to the #1 ranked wrestler in the country. It was a one takedown bout, my opinion being that Buchanan won it in the second period with a sustained ride that sapped Barr’s energy. I know Barr is a high energy guy, but give credit to Buchanan, as being ridden takes more energy than riding. Otherwise, why ride? I believe this result could be reversed in the postseason, as Barr was right there with him. No rest for Barr, as he gets #3 Cardenas (MICH) next weekend and #13 Braunagel to end the conference regular season.
285: Greg Kerkvliet (13-0) won by major decision against #10 Kueter, the Iowa football-player-turned-wrestler. It was a dominant win in a season of dominating wins. Kerkvliet’s highest ranked win though was 2-0 against #8 Slavikouski, though it appears there is more to this story (I’ll stop there). Kerkvliet has a solid four Big Ten bouts ahead, against #11 Heindselmann (MICH), #12 Nevills (MD), #7 Feldman (tOSU) and #9 Luffman (ILL). Win those, which he should, and he’ll surely be on the other side of the bracket at Big Ten’s from Steveson (MINN).
To end, I’d like to shout out to a few of my wrestling friends, and two NEW friends, for the enjoyable afternoon yesterday. It is not just about the wrestling to me, it is also about the many, many folks I’ve had the pleasure of knowing and spending time with over the past 50 years+ of following Penn State wrestling. Yesterday, before the match, our gathering included Mrs. Roar, hlstone, PSUPaul and his wife and son, my brother and two new acquaintances. It was a pleasure meeting johnstownsteel and Mrs. johnstownsteel, been looking forward to this for a very long time. GREAT TIME! Thanks all!
125: Luke Lilledahl (12-1) broke out the offense in a big way, dominant in a technical fall victory against #23 Cruz. It was his most impressive offensive explosion on the season, as his other five tech falls were against lesser competition. His best win on the season is against #6 Smith (NEB), as Lilledahl won’t have a great resume by season’s end. Yet to come is #16 McCrone (tOSU), as the highest ranked opponent yet to wrestle in the regular season. Can only wrestle the guy they put in front of you, so thus far the season is a success, the schedule just didn’t provide Lilledahl with many top guys. The postseason shall be interesting, as the competition will get tougher for Lilledahl. Still he likes the limelight and isn’t fazed by pressure. The Peterson loss is in the rearview mirror.
141: Beau Bartlett (13-0) won in workmanlike fashion. Nothing fancy, just a solid never-in-trouble four point win. Has season wins against #4 Hardy (NEB), #12 Edmonds (MIZZ) and #15 Olivieri (RUT), so a decent resume so far. Upcoming bouts against #11 Lemley (MICH), #1 Mendez (tOSU) and #16 Pucino (ILL), so he has his work cut out. The Mendez bout will be good fun, and they may face each other three times this season.
149: Shayne Van Ness (12-1) put on a show against #4 Parco (#2 on Intermat). A close 4-4 bout in the first period ended as a major decision for Van Ness as the crowd was going bananas. Solid, solid, dominating win against a very talented opponent. Van Ness has already put the #2 Lovett (NEB) loss behind him. This win, against Parco was by far his best win of the season. He has #9 D’Emilio (tOSU) and #15 Webster (ILL) ahead, among others before the postseason.
157: Tyler Kasak (13-0) also put on a show, defeating #1 Teemer by decision. Teemer may be the quickest wrestler I've seen ths year when he decides to go. Kasak could be #1 when the next rankings are released. This was obviously Kasak’s best win in an undefeated season thus far. He’s also beaten #4 Taylor (NEB) and teammate Facundo. The top three at 157, Kasak, Shapiro and Teemer have separated themselves from the pack, so winning is important to secure the #1 seed at NCAA’s. Long way to go…just giving perspective. Yet to wrestle are #6 Miller (MD), #16 Saldate (MICH) and #19 Sasso (tOSU, gives me goosebumps just seeing Sasso on the mat!!), so he has work to do before Big Ten’s.
165: Mitchell Mesenbrink (one “s”!!!) 14-0, was his usual high energy self, winning by technical fall – against the #2 kid in the country!! I can’t remember this much separation between a #1 wrestler and the field in quite a while. Mesenbrink also has a tech fall win against #9 Wilson (NEB), and has #13 Gallagher (tOSU) and #14 Mantanona yet to wrestle in the regular season. Fellow fans…Don’t take Mesenbrink (or others, for that matter) for granted, ever. The sport he is making look easy is not easy at all.
174: Levi Haines (12-1) came within five seconds of a major decision win against #6 Kennedy, winning by 7 points. No flair, just solid wrestling from Haines. And remember, he is up two weight classes from last season. Other best wins so far are against #14 Pinto (NEB) and #20 Turley (RUT), and he has a loss to #1 O’Toole. No shame at all in the O’Toole loss. The Mizzou wrestler is currently injured. I hope for his return by the postseason. Yet-to-come is #5 Kharchla (tOSU), who beat Kennedy in similar fashion. That should be a great bout, with Haines favored.
184: Carter Starocci (13-0) struggled to score against Ferrari, winning by decision with no takedowns. It is always tough wrestling a guy that backs up and plays defense mostly, but Cael has said that a wrestler needs to find a way when that is the case. Starocci’s best win this season is #7 Allred (NEB), a bout he dominated. Yet to wrestle are #10 Smith (MD), #12 Ruth (ILL) and #18 Rogotzke (tOSU) before the postseason.
197: Josh Barr (12-1) lost by decision to the #1 ranked wrestler in the country. It was a one takedown bout, my opinion being that Buchanan won it in the second period with a sustained ride that sapped Barr’s energy. I know Barr is a high energy guy, but give credit to Buchanan, as being ridden takes more energy than riding. Otherwise, why ride? I believe this result could be reversed in the postseason, as Barr was right there with him. No rest for Barr, as he gets #3 Cardenas (MICH) next weekend and #13 Braunagel to end the conference regular season.
285: Greg Kerkvliet (13-0) won by major decision against #10 Kueter, the Iowa football-player-turned-wrestler. It was a dominant win in a season of dominating wins. Kerkvliet’s highest ranked win though was 2-0 against #8 Slavikouski, though it appears there is more to this story (I’ll stop there). Kerkvliet has a solid four Big Ten bouts ahead, against #11 Heindselmann (MICH), #12 Nevills (MD), #7 Feldman (tOSU) and #9 Luffman (ILL). Win those, which he should, and he’ll surely be on the other side of the bracket at Big Ten’s from Steveson (MINN).
To end, I’d like to shout out to a few of my wrestling friends, and two NEW friends, for the enjoyable afternoon yesterday. It is not just about the wrestling to me, it is also about the many, many folks I’ve had the pleasure of knowing and spending time with over the past 50 years+ of following Penn State wrestling. Yesterday, before the match, our gathering included Mrs. Roar, hlstone, PSUPaul and his wife and son, my brother and two new acquaintances. It was a pleasure meeting johnstownsteel and Mrs. johnstownsteel, been looking forward to this for a very long time. GREAT TIME! Thanks all!
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If I didn’t respect teemer too much I’d suggest someone photoshop a cow’s body on to his head
Rewatch the moment after Messenbrink gets his hand raised. Unintentional synching of him yelling something and the lion roaring.
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